Penthouse: You were sixteen years old at that time. What did you believe in?
Hubbard: I believed in Satanism. There was no other religion in the house! Scientology and black magic. What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or, at most, a few weeks. But in Scientology it's stretched out over a lifetime, and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology --and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works. Also, you've got to realize that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan. He was one with Satan. He had a direct pipeline of communication and power with him. My father wouldn't have worshiped anything. I mean, when you think you're the most powerful being in the universe, you have no respect for anything, let alone worship.
And to make another accurate statement - that L. Ron Hubbard probably was the greatest suppressive in Scientology. Because there's another prime truth you ought to know, and that is that Dad never practised what he preached. Anyone who has had any personal contact, communication, living-with or personal involvement with L. Ron Hubbard can attest to that. Whether it be at home, the family, friends, staff, on the Apollo, those people can understand when I say that ninety-nine percent of whatever my father ever said or ever wrote about himself to the press, media, public and membership is totally false and untrue. It is just total fabrication. And you can also see that any self- respecting auditor who had audited Dad was in many instances very perplexed and could not figure out what the heck was going on. Because L. Ron Hubbard didn't get any case gains, at least in the normal sense of the word, because he had so many withholds. One of the major secret withholds (besides all the others of course) is his deep and very real involvement with the Magick tech. The one major thing he could not openly communicate, so he drove auditors nuts because in truth what the auditors were dealing with is the mock-up, not the person, not the real bank, not the individual. He was dealing with this great huge - as they say in Magick, the "construct". And one of the problems that friends, family and staff kept running into is that the L. Ron Hubbard they saw and talked to and worked with was not the Scientology L. Ron Hubbard,...