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Hysterical STANDING OVATIONS. HITLER had them too

Discussion in 'David Miscavige and Current Management' started by Karen#1, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    Trust me you don't want to know...

    I believe Mr Hubbard got the idea from hanging out at Jack Parson's Agape(*note) Lodge in Pasadena..

    On the wall of every room was a big picture of aleister crowley.....

    And the real "tech" involved is from:

    THE PSYCHOLOGY OF SUGGESTION by Boris Sidis 1898 New York, D Appleton and co.

    Gustave Le Bon, founder of social psychology Father of collective behavior theory, (author of) THE CROWD gives the basic principles of manipulating crowds into servile flocks, a "group mind" concept. "I have heard that Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, [Mussolini] and deGaulle were at one time or another, all close students of Le Bon's work.

    (Gustave Le Bon's)THE CROWD has probably had as much practical influence on modern political behavior as any single document, including (machiavelli) THE PRINCE"

    Note: The "Agape" name was used by a 3rd century AD Christian Sex cult...,
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  2. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    well, understand that Xenu and the Volcanos (and the the rest of 1978 OT Levels) was claimed by RTC, under penalty of perjury to be:


    "ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY" < full caps as used by RTC in numerous filings and pleadings in RTC vs Lerma...
  3. Operating DB

    Operating DB Truman Show Dropout

    Ah! An oldie but goody! This was worth the rewatch. My favorite line was "He (LRH) tried to be bigger than life but he just wasn't". LOL

    I love the campy accompanying music with the high pitched females ooh-ing, the spooky clarinet and theremin sci fi sounds.
  4. Operating DB

    Operating DB Truman Show Dropout

    Great idea for a You Tube video! Does anyone have a bust of Hubturd? Even a picture would work. Any volunteers?

    I always liked the idea of an LRH dart board.
  5. Axiom142

    Axiom142 Gold Meritorious Patron

    Oh God!

    This brings back some very painful memories. I was in the audience for about ten of these events at St Hill. It was so tedious having to get up and down for those ludicrous standing ovations. Miscavige just loved the adoration – the way he just stood there smugly with that “Aw shucks, all that just for little ol’ me?” look on his smarmy little face makes me sick.

    What a waste of my life!

    Absolutely! When they first started having the events at St Hill, they were held in the Great Hall and there was a quite tasteful oaken arch framing the stage. But this obviously wasn’t ostentatious enough for the Tiny Tyrant, so the stages and props got more and more fantastical, culminating in the monstrosities we see today.

    Appropriately, the pillars and most other structural elements are constructed from polystyrene and chipboard with a flashy paint-job. All bling and no substance.




    Hopefully in a couple of years, DM will be giving his presentation from here:


  6. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Yeah. Same at the Shrine. I remember touching up the gold paint on one. There's still a good chunk of substance if one of the polystyrene pillars fell on you, though. You think expanded polystyrene is light because you're accustomed to little bits of it as packing material, but when it's a huge motherfucker 30 foot high and three feet across it is *not* light!

  7. Markus

    Markus Silver Meritorious Patron

    I posted this video before on another thread here on ESMB but I think it belongs here too.


  8. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    But, the cool part is that Scientology looks like exactly what it is.

    A desperate-to-impress fast (spiritual) food McPalace.

    A garish wanna-be casino where busloads of hopeful people are rushed in with glitz and promise of big "winnings"--only to leave later with financial losses and a hangover.

    From the thread "Things Wogs Don't Know About Scientologists" comes this:

  9. Dave B.

    Dave B. Maximus Ultimus Mostimus

    Those pictures, particularly the first two, for some reason make me think of Battlefield Earth. Where LRH is hoping his readers associate him with Jetero Heller and that LRH is actually paralleling in real life the story. Saving the Earth and all. I realised looking at those pictures LRH is ACTUALLY J.Walter Madman. Remember J. Walter and his crew in the story? That is Scientology.

    Sorry for the clumsy analogy, anyone see what I'm driving at?
  10. Operating DB

    Operating DB Truman Show Dropout

    Wow! That is so fucking true! That is a great analogy!
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  11. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    I don't know that the Indie Dependents and other Scientologists generally are "afraid of facts" per se. In their mind, there are no absolutes and facts are dependent on viewpoint. Its a world where up can mean down and the L Ron Hubbard Law of Commotion can be ignored because of things like "intent" and atomised context. Structural coherence is far too banky a concept worthy of homo novis consideration.

    What I think they fear most is the "invalidation" which comes from disagreement. Those of us not locked into the Scientology mind fuck know that where agreement meets disagreement one will find the melting pot of ideas, the arena in which beliefs and facts are put to the test with a view to leaving behind that of which we once were certain. Or finding new evidence to support it. Invalidation is a Scientologist's kryptonite and disagreement the enemy of their reality.
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  12. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    Thank you for posting that video again.

    It can and should be posted, without limitation, any time the deluded do not think that Scientology is an early-stage Nazi-like movement to dominate the world.

    The trick is:

    * If this is stated too soon (before Scn has more power) it is scoffed at by apologists who try to shift blame to the whistleblower, leveling accusations like "tin foil conspiracy Kook" and other thought-stopping pejoratives.

    * If this is stated too late (after Scn has sufficient power) it is lamented by those same weak-minded persons who "wish we could have seen the early warning signs".

    Hitler clearly laid out his intentions in Mein Kampf. His sociopathy in the book was not hidden with regard to propaganda lies to inspire the battle cry against a "Common Enemy". It was written about prior to WW II in the 1939 essay by Kenneth Burke called 'The Rhetoric of Hitler's Battle'.

    Burke clearly laid out the dark path that Hitler revealed in that book with regard to the final solution to the "Jewish Peril" and even disclosed his method of convincing people to commit such unthinkable atrocities:

    Hubbard has likewise quite foolishly laid out his own sociopathic intentions in his books and writings. One need look no further than the early than Hubbard's 1951 book Science of Survival, written a mere 6 years after Hitler's death.

    What does anyone think that the rhetorical flourishes such as "Golden Age", "New Civilization" and "Cleared Planet" are, if not "a positive goal of symbolic re-birth" used to justify the "morally negative action of elimination"?

    And, there are countless other homicidal and genocidal "command intentions" clearly laid out by Hubbard in the cult's seminal and single most sacred scripture, Mein KSW.

    Even a casual student of Hubbard's madness quickly collides with something else that there is no conceivable rationalization for in his widely-publicized and murderous Fair Game policies.

    Markus, I greatly appreciate your including these kind of references as often as you feel appropriate. It is inestimably better than having to listen to a hand-wringing victim whining (after the fact) "If we had only known what Hubbard was planning to do!"

    Hubbard sought to buy, co-opt or take over his own country more than once. Does anyone doubt that if it were allowed, Scientology's elite Sea Org and OSA would be heavily armed as they broke into SP's homes and pistol whipped them before dragging them off to RPF concentration camps to be slavishly worked to death for the greater good?
  13. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    1) I never realized before that an ego could be [STRIKE]masturbated[/STRIKE] flattered so deeply
    2) I never realized that one could [STRIKE]come[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]reach such an orgasm[/STRIKE] enjoy so much (this flattery)
    3) I never taught that one could , without being shy, let it be so visible

    really, it has never be so crystal clear before in any video
    (as I never met His holiness Davey 1st - I had no idea of what some people describe before - now I beleive I understand a part of Hisself personnality)

    Thank's to His Holiness
    for exposing his true himself
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  14. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    Thanks for that.

    I think it was Karen here who once described the effects of Scientology as being akin to a holocaust. At the time I thought the statement was a bit extreme. Upon reflection, and assuming there is a spiritual world, I have come to agree. Scientology has certainly taken many, many lives and the only difference in effect that I can see between what Hitler and L Ron Hubbard has done is that the latter kept the large majority his victims alive.
  15. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    Well, agreed.

    But. . . maybe this is a better way to illustrate my point:

    L & N

    Who or What would invalidate a Scientologist's reality?

    A human tic

    An SP tic

    A psych tic

    A merchant of chaos tic

    A wog tic

    An investigative journalist tic

    A squirrel tic

    An evil being trying to destroy me tic

    A fact LFBD F/N

    PC cogs: "Oh, it's not the messenger--it's the message that's f*cking up my case!"

  16. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    That freeze-frame in the video looks like a promo piece for the TV game show:



    Contestants try to win Total Freedom by competing to see who can give COB the most tone 40 obsequiously servile compliments.

    How can we ever put our exchange in to COB?
    It wouldn't even be enough thanks if we let him
    break into our homes and steal all our possessions
    and anally rape us at knifepoint. Would it?

    Audience roars with approval.

    The Applause-Meter on screen rockets to the right.

    COB, taking a cue from the off-stage director,
    looks down at at his feet in mock humility,
    while actually admiring his 1800 dollar Berluti loafers.

  17. namaste

    namaste Silver Meritorious Patron

    If only he knew what they were really saying.
  18. GoNuclear

    GoNuclear Gold Meritorious Patron

    There was a great line from that movie Gladiator that was spoken by the former general turned gladiator to the emperor ... it was a Russell Crow line ...
    "Your time of self congratulations will soon be over, your highness." I think that line is most appropos in this situation with the evil oompa loompa.

  19. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Get with the program, dude. Any connection between Scientology abuses and bizarre behavior and Hubbard's teachings are to be downplayed, or ignored. The problem is David Miscavige, not L. Ron Hubbard.

    Plus, Miscavige is actually an anti-Scientologist. In fact, he's the number one anti-Scientologist.

    Get the idea? Good. :yes:
  20. HelluvaHoax!

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    Good point! None of us where there and physically witnessed Ron writing and signing the Fair Game policy, so who knows who really wrote it?

    A good friend of mine was the Commodore's typist and she says that while on the ship, Ron gave her a dictation tape and told her to transcribe it. She said it was the Fair Game policy.

    But really, how can we be sure that someone didn't get that tape and impersonate Ron and change what he said. For that matter, how do we even know that it was the real Ron aboard the Apollo. I don't think fingerprint or DNA technology existed then, so it's better not to speculate.

    I'd rather focus on the positive things in life. Hey! Did you know Ron was the youngest person ever to solve the NY Times Sunday crossword puzzle at age 3?


    Irving the Indie

    (okay so none of that happened and I'm going to lose my eternity, so what?)