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I had an "awakening" last night

paradox

ab intra silentio vera
I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes and been with a true believer who shoved her "wand" into my hands at the beginning of the presentation.


Sounds like you got off easy then, gt. :giggle: Maybe coulda been worse had you been given the full magical treatment? :whistling:
 
Where I come from...we call this WOO, or Woo-woo! There is an awful lot of it around, and has been for my whole lifetime...

This is why it's important to teach school kids critical thinking skills. :thumbsup:
 

Infinite

Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
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Now, swap "Light of Creation" for "Scientology".

I have a Guy Fawkes mask hanging on one of our OT certs. But I don't even like seeing that anymore.

That would make a great pic . . . please, take one before you biff them out, I would love to see it . . . the juxtaposition of opposing concepts . . . pure Art, I tell you, pure Art.
 

Mest Lover

Not Sea Org Qualified
Where I come from...we call this WOO, or Woo-woo! There is an awful lot of it around, and has been for my whole lifetime...

This is why it's important to teach school kids critical thinking skills. :thumbsup:

As my parents told me over and over "NO DRUGS." So have I continued that.

It didn't stop me from smoking pot while in my teens but it surely stopped me from using anything else than that.

My list to the kids has been so far: "No drugs, No smoking, No drinking."

This week it became:

"No drugs, no smoking, no drinking, and no Scientology"

I had to explain that a bit to them and I was glad they asked what it meant.
 
Where have you been? In a comfy bubble? :D

In psychology, it is called projecting. You see yourself in others. Because I gave all my Scientology books, course packs, tapes, and checksheets away years ago, I just assumed that someone who is more against the cult than me, is less likely to have all the crap I threw away ages ago still hanging around to look at. I have loads of friends (self and immediate family included) who audit others regularly. We don't have any of that kludge. I'd be embarrassed if someone came over to my house and found a Scientology book or certificate on my shelves.

I still have my Clear cert from 1971. It is in a old suitcase filled with stuff from the 60s like the Monterey Pop Festival Program, my junior high yearbook, letters from girlfriends. It is under piles of other crap in the barn. Even when i was in, I didn't keep that stuff.
 
As my parents told me over and over "NO DRUGS." So have I continued that.

It didn't stop me from smoking pot while in my teens but it surely stopped me from using anything else than that.

My list to the kids has been so far: "No drugs, No smoking, No drinking."

This week it became:

"No drugs, no smoking, no drinking, and no Scientology"

I had to explain that a bit to them and I was glad they asked what it meant.

When I was 12, and I was out dining with my parents, my mother would hand me her glass of wine. She didn't care for wine or any booze especially.

When my dad was a kid, he was raised with wine at the dinner table (not just for the adults).

In high school, a friend and I made five gallons of beer in a crock at my house. It wasn't kept secret from my parents.

We always knew what our kids were doing. We still do. It's called communication. Our kids like and trust us. We trust them. And yes, they've tried, and some do drugs. They are now mainly between 30 and 40 years old. It doesn't seem to be harming anyone. I'm more concerned about a Mormon, a holier than thou person, whose use of prescription drugs is frightening.

Our youngest wanted to get Scientology auditing some years back. I set her up with a local mission where I knew the people. We coached her on what she couldn't say. She had an enjoyable time with it. That was all.
 
Where have you been? In a comfy bubble? :D

Comfy bubble bath.

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Good twin

Floater
In psychology, it is called projecting. You see yourself in others. Because I gave all my Scientology books, course packs, tapes, and checksheets away years ago, I just assumed that someone who is more against the cult than me, is less likely to have all the crap I threw away ages ago still hanging around to look at. I have loads of friends (self and immediate family included) who audit others regularly. We don't have any of that kludge. I'd be embarrassed if someone came over to my house and found a Scientology book or certificate on my shelves.

I still have my Clear cert from 1971. It is in a old suitcase filled with stuff from the 60s like the Monterey Pop Festival Program, my junior high yearbook, letters from girlfriends. It is under piles of other crap in the barn. Even when i was in, I didn't keep that stuff.

I have often thought that you actually got the Scientology I signed up for, CO. I left the church after a few years in the beginning and should have just moved on. At that point I could have held onto a small part of the skillset and ideology and found my own life experience. But I went back. A few years later I left again. I should have just used my experience to move on with my own goals and create a life for myself and my family that allowed emotional and spiritual growth without encroachment. But I went back.

I don't consider that you "got off easy". It seems to me that you really maximized the postive potential of the Scientology experience and used your own belief in yourself to create a beautiful life experience. You left the church and allowed yourself to enjoy your own abilities.


Sadly, for most of us we were so seduced by the cult, we allowed it to become a substitute for the life we would have created. For me it was very much like a drug. Instead of facing life and finding the tools and skills to live life and create a future for myself and my family I used Scientology as a way to avoid any real participation in real life activities. I never considered consequences. I used the Scientology justification for everything I did. Since I was saving the planet, nothing else I did mattered.

Next month it'll be three years since I left the cult. There's a whole lot of onion to continue to peel.
 
Wow...great truth telling about your life experience, Good Twin! This exchange is going on golden quotes (sans nudity!:D)

Keep peeling back that Scientological onion, everybody! :happydance:
 

nexus100

Gold Meritorious Patron
I have often thought that you actually got the Scientology I signed up for, CO. I left the church after a few years in the beginning and should have just moved on. At that point I could have held onto a small part of the skillset and ideology and found my own life experience. But I went back. A few years later I left again. I should have just used my experience to move on with my own goals and create a life for myself and my family that allowed emotional and spiritual growth without encroachment. But I went back.

I don't consider that you "got off easy". It seems to me that you really maximized the postive potential of the Scientology experience and used your own belief in yourself to create a beautiful life experience. You left the church and allowed yourself to enjoy your own abilities.


Sadly, for most of us we were so seduced by the cult, we allowed it to become a substitute for the life we would have created. For me it was very much like a drug. Instead of facing life and finding the tools and skills to live life and create a future for myself and my family I used Scientology as a way to avoid any real participation in real life activities. I never considered consequences. I used the Scientology justification for everything I did. Since I was saving the planet, nothing else I did mattered.

Next month it'll be three years since I left the cult. There's a whole lot of onion to continue to peel.

Oh come on, buck up. You've still 10-15 reasonably good years left.
 
I have often thought that you actually got the Scientology I signed up for, CO. I left the church after a few years in the beginning and should have just moved on. At that point I could have held onto a small part of the skillset and ideology and found my own life experience. But I went back. A few years later I left again. I should have just used my experience to move on with my own goals and create a life for myself and my family that allowed emotional and spiritual growth without encroachment. But I went back.

I don't consider that you "got off easy". It seems to me that you really maximized the postive potential of the Scientology experience and used your own belief in yourself to create a beautiful life experience. You left the church and allowed yourself to enjoy your own abilities.


Sadly, for most of us we were so seduced by the cult, we allowed it to become a substitute for the life we would have created. For me it was very much like a drug. Instead of facing life and finding the tools and skills to live life and create a future for myself and my family I used Scientology as a way to avoid any real participation in real life activities. I never considered consequences. I used the Scientology justification for everything I did. Since I was saving the planet, nothing else I did mattered.

Next month it'll be three years since I left the cult. There's a whole lot of onion to continue to peel.
Good Twin,

These are the power processes:
*************************************************
Grade Five:

POWER PROCESSES

Quad Flows
Note on use of PR PR 1-3: Power processes 1, 2, and 3 are corrective processes and are used when the PC is not running well on Pr Pr 4, 5, or 6.

PR PR 1

Run Pr Pr 1 when there is no TA action on Pr Pr 4 or when the PC is committing present time Overts. A continuing Overt case is committing Overts as a solution.

F1. 1. What has another done to you?
2. What problem was he/she trying to solve?
3. What hasn't another said to you?
4. What problem was he/she trying to solve?

F2. 1. What have you done to another?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to another?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

F3. 1. What has another done to another or others?
2. What problem were they trying to solve?
3. What hasn't another said to another or others?
4. What problem were they trying to solve?

F0. 1. What have you done to yourself?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to yourself?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

Each Flow run to EP.



PR PR 2

Pr Pr 2 is used when the PC brings up only opposites (Dichotomies) on Pr Pr 5 and is collapsed into his Bank by former practices.

"Give me some practices, opinions or belief systems you have been
connected to, whether you left them or not." Run reading items.

F1. 1. What condition have you encountered in/with ______________?
2. How have you handled it?

F2. 1. What condition has another encountered in/with ______________?
2. Now has he/she handled it?

F3. 1. What condition have others encountered in/with ______________?
2. How have they handled at?

F0. 1. What condition have you encountered with yourself because of ______?
2. How have you handled it?

Each Flow run to EP.


PR PR 3

Pr Pr 3 is used when the PC has been destroyed by auditing or the organization or for those overwhelmed by some self-improvement practice.

F1. 1. What condition have you encountered in _______?
(Scientology™ or auditing, clearing, 'self-improvement practice')?
2. How have you handled it?

F2. 1. What condition has another encountered in _______?
(Scientology™ or auditing, clearing, 'self-improvement practice')?
2. How has he/she handled it?

F3. 1. What condition have others encountered in ______?
(Scientology™ or auditing, clearing, 'self-improvement practice')?
2. How have they handled it?

F0. 1. What condition have you encountered in yourself because of ____?
(Scientology™ or auditing, clearing, 'self-improvement practice')
2. How have you handled it?

Each Flow run to EP.


PR PR 4

(Note: Run Pr Pr 1 when there is no TA action on Pr Pr 4 or when the PC is committing present time Overts. A continuing Overt case is committing Overts as a solution.)

F1. 1. Tell me a source.
2. Tell me about it.
3. Tell me a no-source.
4. Tell me about it.

F2. 1. Tell me a source for another.
2. Tell me about it.
3. Tell me a no-source for another.
4. Tell me about it.

F3. 1. Tell me a source for others.
2. Tell me about it.
3. Tell me a no-source for others.
4. Tell me about it.

F0. 1. Tell me about yourself as a source.
2. Tell me about it.
3. Tell me about yourself as a no-source.
4. Tell me about it.

The End Phenomena of each of these processes is that the colors in the room seem brighter and the walls more solid. Run to this point and F/N VGIs.

Hilton: This is run to an EP of recognition of sources with F/N and a brightening of the space. The EP isn't reached on the awareness that one is source. The EP is an ability to recognize sources.



PR PR 5

(Note: Pr Pr 2 is used when the PC brings up only opposites (Dichotomies) on Pr Pr 5 and is collapsed into his Bank by former practices.)

F1. 1. What is?
2. What isn't?

F2. 1. What is for another?
2. What isn't for another?

F3. 1. What is for others?
2. What isn't for others?

F0. 1. What is for yourself?
2. What isn't far yourself?

Run to a floating needle and 3 consecutive answers in present time. The PC should have cycled up and down the track before that. If PC gives Dichotomies (i.e. good-bad etc.), go immediately to Pr Pr 2.

Hilton: This is run to F/N and a shift into present time.


PR PR 6

F1. 1. Tell me an existing condition.
2. Tell me how you have handled it.

F2. 1. Tell me an existing condition for another.
2. Tell me how he/she has handled it.

F3. 1. Tell me an existing condition for others.
2. Tell me how they have handled it.

F0. 1. Tell me an existing condition in yourself.
2. Tell me how you have handled it.

Run to a revivification of the incident that the PC is dramatizing and F/N VGIs.

Hilton: This is run to a reviv of the incident that the person is stuck in followed by a stable shift into awareness of present time.


Grade Five A:

POWER PLUS PROCESSES

Quad Flows

1B (1A was cancelled).

L & N to first Blowdown Item: "What person have you known?"

Run terminal in following processes.

F1. 1. What has _________ done to you?
2. What problem was he/she trying to solve?
3. What hasn't __________ said to you?
4. What problem was he/she trying to solve?

F2. 1. What have you done to _________ ?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to ________ ?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

F3. 1. What has __________ done to others?
2. What problem was he/she trying to solve?
3. What hasn't __________ said to others?
4. What problem was he/she trying to salve?

F3A. 1. What have others done to __________ ?
2. What problem were they trying to solve?
3. What haven't others said to ________ ?
4. What problem were they trying to solve?

F0. 1. What have you done to yourself because of _______?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to yourself because of __________?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

Each Flow run to EP.


1C

L & N to first Blowdown Item: "What place have you known?"

Run the place found in the following processes.

F1. 1. What has another done to you in _________?
2. What problem was he/she trying to solve?
3. What hasn't another said to you in _________?
4. What problem was he/she trying to solve?

F2. 1. What have you done to another in _________?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to another in _________?
4. What problem were you trying to solve.

F3. 1. What has another done to another in _________?
2. What problem were they trying to solve?
3. What hasn't another said to others in _________?
4. What problem were they trying to solve?

F0. 1. What have you done to yourself in _________?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to yourself in _________?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

Each Flow run to EP.

1D

L & N to first Blowdown Item:
"What subject would you like to know more about?"

Run the subject found in the same processes as given in 1C (places), Quad Flows.

Each Flow run to EP.



Procedure first published by Ron Hubbard. As it is a procedure it can't be copyrighted.

**********************************

Phil Spickler ran power on me in 1969 at ASHO when I was 18. He is still a friend. I've audited him, he's audited me. When he was separated from his wife in the mid 70s, she was sleeping in my bed. A couple years later, after she and I had been living together for that period with his and her kids, his son from a previous marriage, and his new girl friend's kids, they got divorced, and we got married. We're still married. everyone is coming, as usual, on Thursday to our house; some people do coke, some people do Scientology, we do kids and family.

If you would trust me not to drag you into an insane cult, I would like to offer you my services as an auditor to run power on you over the phone. It would most likely be a session a day or every other day for a week or two.
whatever worked out schedule wise. No money, no reging afterward, No Strings Attached.

I am not a Standard Tech robot. It won't be the scientology of the 80s, 90s, or 00s. It won't be scientology. Read the processes and procedure over. you might just have some fresh awakenings from that. I am not a Scientologist.

This offer is open ended. Any time from now till doomsday. Nobody is going to hound you. if it seems like an idea, whose time has come in five years, that would be fine too.

You are no where near as damaged as some, who have been put through the wringer at the Mecca of Technical Perfection.
 
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Good twin

Floater
**********************************

Phil Spickler ran power on me in 1969 at ASHO when I was 18.

If you would trust me not to drag you into an insane cult, I would like to offer you my services as an auditor to run power on you over the phone. It would most likely be a session a day or every other day for a week or two.
whatever worked out schedule wise. No money, no reging afterward, No Strings Attached.

I am not a Standard Tech robot. It won't be the scientology of the 80s, 90s, or 00s. It won't be scientology. Read the processes and procedure over. you might just have some fresh awakenings from that. I am not a Scientologist.

This offer is open ended. Ant time from now till doomsday. Nobody is going to hound you. if it seems like an idea, whose time has come in five years, that would be fine too.

You are no where near as damaged as some, who have been put through the wringer at the Mecca of Technical Perfection.

This is truly a kind and generous offer. I am inclined to say "yes", but will look it over and let you know when I am ready.

GT
 
Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Good Twin,

These are the power processes:
*************************************************
Grade Five:

POWER PROCESSES

Quad Flows
Note on use of PR PR 1-3: Power processes 1, 2, and 3 are corrective processes and are used when the PC is not running well on Pr Pr 4, 5, or 6.

PR PR 1

Run Pr Pr 1 when there is no TA action on Pr Pr 4 or when the PC is committing present time Overts. A continuing Overt case is committing Overts as a solution.

F1. 1. What has another done to you?
2. What problem was he/she trying to solve?
3. What hasn't another said to you?
4. What problem was he/she trying to solve?

F2. 1. What have you done to another?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to another?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

F3. 1. What has another done to another or others?
2. What problem were they trying to solve?
3. What hasn't another said to another or others?
4. What problem were they trying to solve?

F0. 1. What have you done to yourself?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to yourself?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

Each Flow run to EP.



PR PR 2

Pr Pr 2 is used when the PC brings up only opposites (Dichotomies) on Pr Pr 5 and is collapsed into his Bank by former practices.

"Give me some practices, opinions or belief systems you have been
connected to, whether you left them or not." Run reading items.

F1. 1. What condition have you encountered in/with ______________?
2. How have you handled it?

F2. 1. What condition has another encountered in/with ______________?
2. Now has he/she handled it?

F3. 1. What condition have others encountered in/with ______________?
2. How have they handled at?

F0. 1. What condition have you encountered with yourself because of ______?
2. How have you handled it?

Each Flow run to EP.


PR PR 3

Pr Pr 3 is used when the PC has been destroyed by auditing or the organization or for those overwhelmed by some self-improvement practice.

F1. 1. What condition have you encountered in _______?
(Scientology™ or auditing, clearing, 'self-improvement practice')?
2. How have you handled it?

F2. 1. What condition has another encountered in _______?
(Scientology™ or auditing, clearing, 'self-improvement practice')?
2. How has he/she handled it?

F3. 1. What condition have others encountered in ______?
(Scientology™ or auditing, clearing, 'self-improvement practice')?
2. How have they handled it?

F0. 1. What condition have you encountered in yourself because of ____?
(Scientology™ or auditing, clearing, 'self-improvement practice')
2. How have you handled it?

Each Flow run to EP.


PR PR 4

(Note: Run Pr Pr 1 when there is no TA action on Pr Pr 4 or when the PC is committing present time Overts. A continuing Overt case is committing Overts as a solution.)

F1. 1. Tell me a source.
2. Tell me about it.
3. Tell me a no-source.
4. Tell me about it.

F2. 1. Tell me a source for another.
2. Tell me about it.
3. Tell me a no-source for another.
4. Tell me about it.

F3. 1. Tell me a source for others.
2. Tell me about it.
3. Tell me a no-source for others.
4. Tell me about it.

F0. 1. Tell me about yourself as a source.
2. Tell me about it.
3. Tell me about yourself as a no-source.
4. Tell me about it.

The End Phenomena of each of these processes is that the colors in the room seem brighter and the walls more solid. Run to this point and F/N VGIs.

Hilton: This is run to an EP of recognition of sources with F/N and a brightening of the space. The EP isn't reached on the awareness that one is source. The EP is an ability to recognize sources.



PR PR 5

(Note: Pr Pr 2 is used when the PC brings up only opposites (Dichotomies) on Pr Pr 5 and is collapsed into his Bank by former practices.)

F1. 1. What is?
2. What isn't?

F2. 1. What is for another?
2. What isn't for another?

F3. 1. What is for others?
2. What isn't for others?

F0. 1. What is for yourself?
2. What isn't far yourself?

Run to a floating needle and 3 consecutive answers in present time. The PC should have cycled up and down the track before that. If PC gives Dichotomies (i.e. good-bad etc.), go immediately to Pr Pr 2.

Hilton: This is run to F/N and a shift into present time.


PR PR 6

F1. 1. Tell me an existing condition.
2. Tell me how you have handled it.

F2. 1. Tell me an existing condition for another.
2. Tell me how he/she has handled it.

F3. 1. Tell me an existing condition for others.
2. Tell me how they have handled it.

F0. 1. Tell me an existing condition in yourself.
2. Tell me how you have handled it.

Run to a revivification of the incident that the PC is dramatizing and F/N VGIs.

Hilton: This is run to a reviv of the incident that the person is stuck in followed by a stable shift into awareness of present time.


Grade Five A:

POWER PLUS PROCESSES

Quad Flows

1B (1A was cancelled).

L & N to first Blowdown Item: "What person have you known?"

Run terminal in following processes.

F1. 1. What has _________ done to you?
2. What problem was he/she trying to solve?
3. What hasn't __________ said to you?
4. What problem was he/she trying to solve?

F2. 1. What have you done to _________ ?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to ________ ?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

F3. 1. What has __________ done to others?
2. What problem was he/she trying to solve?
3. What hasn't __________ said to others?
4. What problem was he/she trying to salve?

F3A. 1. What have others done to __________ ?
2. What problem were they trying to solve?
3. What haven't others said to ________ ?
4. What problem were they trying to solve?

F0. 1. What have you done to yourself because of _______?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to yourself because of __________?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

Each Flow run to EP.


1C

L & N to first Blowdown Item: "What place have you known?"

Run the place found in the following processes.

F1. 1. What has another done to you in _________?
2. What problem was he/she trying to solve?
3. What hasn't another said to you in _________?
4. What problem was he/she trying to solve?

F2. 1. What have you done to another in _________?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to another in _________?
4. What problem were you trying to solve.

F3. 1. What has another done to another in _________?
2. What problem were they trying to solve?
3. What hasn't another said to others in _________?
4. What problem were they trying to solve?

F0. 1. What have you done to yourself in _________?
2. What problem were you trying to solve?
3. What haven't you said to yourself in _________?
4. What problem were you trying to solve?

Each Flow run to EP.

1D

L & N to first Blowdown Item:
"What subject would you like to know more about?"

Run the subject found in the same processes as given in 1C (places), Quad Flows.

Each Flow run to EP.



Procedure first published by Ron Hubbard. As it is a procedure it can't be copyrighted.

**********************************

Phil Spickler ran power on me in 1969 at ASHO when I was 18. He is still a friend. I've audited him, he's audited me. When he was separated from his wife in the mid 70s, she was sleeping in my bed. A couple years later, after she and I had been living together for that period with his and her kids, his son from a previous marriage, and his new girl friend's kids, they got divorced, and we got married. We're still married. everyone is coming, as usual, on Thursday to our house; some people do coke, some people do Scientology, we do kids and family.

If you would trust me not to drag you into an insane cult, I would like to offer you my services as an auditor to run power on you over the phone. It would most likely be a session a day or every other day for a week or two.
whatever worked out schedule wise. No money, no reging afterward, No Strings Attached.

I am not a Standard Tech robot. It won't be the scientology of the 80s, 90s, or 00s. It won't be scientology. Read the processes and procedure over. you might just have some fresh awakenings from that. I am not a Scientologist.

This offer is open ended. Ant time from now till doomsday. Nobody is going to hound you. if it seems like an idea, whose time has come in five years, that would be fine too.

You are no where near as damaged as some, who have been put through the wringer at the Mecca of Technical Perfection.

I just LOVE squirrels! (Creative, self-actualized and self-empowered folks! :coolwink:) Especially the local California species...(my tribe!) :happydance:
 
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