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I just watched Going Clear... why do I want Scientology in my life?

HelluvaHoax!

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Perhaps he wants the cult to be his executioner?


LOL

Either that or he has StuckHole Syndrome.

It's kind of like Stockholm Syndrome, but instead of getting overwhelmed by terrorists and joining their cell, you overwhelm yourself, then voluntarily route yourself into the cult's "hole" and end up "stuck" there for eternity.

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WildKat

Gold Meritorious Patron
Perhaps he wants the cult to be his executioner?

I just think he's in love with and wants to meet Tom Cruise. When I called him on it a few pages back, he didn't deny. (He did deny being an attention whore and drama queen LOL)
 

Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
You are either completely self destructive or completely fucking stupid. You have been shown, told, pleaded with, encouraged and any other verbs you can think of. I quit. Do whatever the fuck you want. It's what you are going to do anyway.

FYI.. I've been informed by several posters on WWP that 'seattleskeptic' is a mischievous anon that has been trolling this board "for the lulz". You're giving them exactly what they want by reacting to the troll's bullshit. :)

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Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
FYI.. I've been informed by several posters on WWP that 'seattleskeptic' is a mischievous anon that has been trolling this board "for the lulz". You're giving them exactly what they want by reacting to the troll's bullshit. :)

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He did call the house yesterday. And I think he really did call the org and prolly spoke to Alina.

But, I guess, an Anon could and might do any of those things.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
Yeah, I'm just messin' with ya Claire.

You'd like da wonderhusband. Perhaps not all his opinions, but you'd find him to be a far better person than yrs truly.

As to the rest of it, cool that you're kidding. There's far too much "evaluation for others" here and it's kinda repugnant.
 
You'd like da wonderhusband. Perhaps not all his opinions, but you'd find him to be a far better person than yrs truly.

As to the rest of it, cool that you're kidding. There's far too much "evaluation for others" here and it's kinda repugnant.


I've just now been able to make it back on this board and lightly sifted through the couple posts about me wanting to meet tom cruise and more trolling accusations.

I'm not.

That church has called me 6 times yesterday, surrounding my appointment, which I understand, but not once today. I'm sorry if I've been disruptive. Claire-- I apologize for any intrusion.

I'm thoroughly creeped out and a bit stir-crazy at the moment.
 
FYI.. I've been informed by several posters on WWP that 'seattleskeptic' is a mischievous anon that has been trolling this board "for the lulz". You're giving them exactly what they want by reacting to the troll's bullshit. :)

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Excuse me but get me on the phone you prick. No idea what WWP is and they've got no idea what I'm doing online. Fuck you.
 
I haven't gone back beyond this page because I'm a bit upset. I think it's funny that I randomly type seattleskeptic as my username for this board which I assumed had very little activity and all the sudden the entire board is a skeptic of me. It makes sense but seriously. I don't know what it is. I've offered to talk to many of you. I even called Claire which really bothered me after because the guy I spoke to made me feel weird for calling when I was given the number. As I said-- sorry for the intrusion if you feel that way.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
I've just now been able to make it back on this board and lightly sifted through the couple posts about me wanting to meet tom cruise and more trolling accusations.

I'm not.

That church has called me 6 times yesterday, surrounding my appointment, which I understand, but not once today. I'm sorry if I've been disruptive. Claire-- I apologize for any intrusion.

I'm thoroughly creeped out and a bit stir-crazy at the moment.

Hi, I don't feel you intruded at all. You can certainly talk to J or me if you'd like to. Or email at claireswazey (at) yahoo.

Re the trolling allegations...unfortunately, ESMB and other boards sometimes get trolled. This has the effect of making people a bit cynical, even paranoid.

A lot of long time critics have been accused of trolling or lying.

Not saying it's great, but thought an explanation might help here.
 

If you're genuine about wanting us to assist you in your "search for truth" ... well ... you've just been thoroughly assisted and no doubt you'll now be able to do whatever you feel is right for you.

Good luck with whatever choice you make.






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Thank you. I've ignored the calls like I've said in a couple of the recent posts youre just now seeing.

My choice is to not get involved, as weird and luring as it was, even if you don't get that.

Though I feel like it could have been handled differently I understand the skepticism and can say I especially appreciate those who were in doubt but still treated me with concern.
 
Hi, I don't feel you intruded at all. You can certainly talk to J or me if you'd like to. Or email at claireswazey (at) yahoo.

Re the trolling allegations...unfortunately, ESMB and other boards sometimes get trolled. This has the effect of making people a bit cynical, even paranoid.

A lot of long time critics have been accused of trolling or lying.

Not saying it's great, but thought an explanation might help here.


I've made my decision but out of curiosity I'd like to hear about your story if you're at all willing. You should have my number on your call log, otherwise I can PM it. I do appreciate it, Claire.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
Hi...we don't have caller id. And I disabled the pm function here a few years ago because of the way I was being spoken to and about here.

I'm definitely not planning to talk you or anyone else into or out of anything, though if asked, I'd certainly give my opinion.

Sure, I'd be willing to share my story, if you're interested. I can be reached via email.
 

Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
He did call the house yesterday. And I think he really did call the org and prolly spoke to Alina. But, I guess, an Anon could and might do any of those things.

AFAIK, Alina no longer works at the org. She & Bob have been busy promoting their natural clothing line.

https://www.facebook.com/SOSfromTexas/posts/10151257582086353

https://www.facebook.com/NaturalClothingCo

She's Polish, not Hungarian.

Bob also owns a fencing company in Seattle. I got a huge laugh when I assessed his website. I wondered where the fake shrubs at PAC came from? :biggrin:

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http://www.ecfencerentals.com
 
Thank you. I've ignored the calls like I've said in a couple of the recent posts youre just now seeing.

My choice is to not get involved, as weird and luring as it was, even if you don't get that.

Though I feel like it could have been handled differently I understand the skepticism and can say I especially appreciate those who were in doubt but still treated me with concern.

I'm glad you decided to steer clear. It may feel strange, especially feeling so lured. If you're curious about what actually happens in Scientology, this board is full of individual stories and information. If you have any questions, just ask! Honestly, I didn't find out many answers while I was IN Scientology. I lived through the hell that it was, and when I left, I found out that all the materials and everything and all of the allure of Scientology could be explained away... All online.

You did the right thing. Be proud of yourself. You just saved yourself from even crazier experiences.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
AFAIK, Alina no longer works at the org. She & Bob have been busy promoting their natural clothing line.

https://www.facebook.com/SOSfromTexas/posts/10151257582086353

https://www.facebook.com/NaturalClothingCo

She's Polish, not Hungarian.

Bob also owns a fencing company in Seattle. I got a huge laugh when I assessed his website. I wondered where the fake shrubs at PAC came from? :biggrin:

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Yah, I know she's Polish. But she prolly sounds Hungarian on the phone to someone who doesn't know her.

She's been staff and volunteer (Ladies' Auxiliary at one point) for quite some tine. Major major bot. She and her hubby about have to be self emp since Bob evidently had to relinquish his inheritance in Bartell Drugs. Maybe they're still doing staff or other bot shit, maybe not.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
I'm glad you decided to steer clear. It may feel strange, especially feeling so lured. If you're curious about what actually happens in Scientology, this board is full of individual stories and information. If you have any questions, just ask! Honestly, I didn't find out many answers while I was IN Scientology. I lived through the hell that it was, and when I left, I found out that all the materials and everything and all of the allure of Scientology could be explained away... All online.

You did the right thing. Be proud of yourself. You just saved yourself from even crazier experiences.

It used to seem like a mellower sort of borg to me but it actually got pretty fucked up there, just like other borgs.

Everything I heard from those who left after I did and the way they acted at the Idle Borg grand opening was uber culty.
 
I'm glad you decided to steer clear. It may feel strange, especially feeling so lured. If you're curious about what actually happens in Scientology, this board is full of individual stories and information. If you have any questions, just ask! Honestly, I didn't find out many answers while I was IN Scientology. I lived through the hell that it was, and when I left, I found out that all the materials and everything and all of the allure of Scientology could be explained away... All online.

You did the right thing. Be proud of yourself. You just saved yourself from even crazier experiences.

Appreciated. Today is definitely not the day for me to browse though.

I think I'll take a couple day, or week, hiatus-- and come back.

She said she was hungarian. I know a lot of polish, she didn't sound polish.

Kevin was the gent I spoke to-- I asked him beyond all beliefs of scientology that empirically I can decide he's forth fortuned, how it was possible for him to knowingly accept the teachings of someone as creepy and unbelievably deceitful as L Ron Hubbard. I asked him that even looking at his creepy smiley and the way he dodges real questions, how he could walk foot in front of foot at a church premised on his creativity. This is what I wanted to know. I wanted to explain that urge I had the other night when the title of this thread was embarrassingly posted to the people that were hurt by it. I thought Kevin might say something that made sense to me.

Kevin laughed and admitted he was a bit creepy, creepily, but because of what the church has given him he is very thankful.

Kevin has left 3 messages on my phone. My dentist, of 8 years, left me one message for a missed appointment last week. I forgot to tell them I double booked. The hungarian girl left one message. It was sweet and sincere. She wants me to know what they've made of my answers to the 200 questions. My bet is it's nothing new.
 
I'd also like to mention that I've given a few of you my number, which, if I gave to the COS is obviously not that important to me, but please don't spam it. They're already bothering me enough. If anyone has some real thoughts to relay, please just PM me and ask for it. I'm here and available.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
Ok, cool. Different bot then.

Anyway, best to steer clear of them. I've seen them squeeze 20k out of less than 8 or 10 already tapped out people at their fundraisers/briefings. (my point being they're more than happy to bankrupt members)
 
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