I came here looking for some answers. I got a few, but I am basically coming away with frustration and disgust more than anything. You guys claim to be EX Scientologists but a majority of you still defend this bat shit crazy cult. Claire got all bent out of shape when I suggested that clay demos are playing with clay. I'm sorry. There is no fucking way that I am going to be forced or coerced or tricked or talked into doing anything I don't want to and that includes making clay images to explain what I understand. I don't give a shit what happened in my past life. David and I talked about this the other night. I told him that because he is so attached to the ideas of a Marxist, Satanic lunatic and so obsessed with "looking" at why he does things, that he cannot be in the now and STOP doing the things he does. He is trapped in the past. He also tries to feed me this bullshit that I create everything. The whole point is that believing that everything is created by an individual and to take responsibility for everything that I create only takes away one's power to create something different. I don't create things, I see things different. I might hate my job, but see it as lucky because there are many people out there that don't have jobs, and no matter how crappy my job may be, I can still provide for my family. Things are really not that bad. That feels so much better than saying "Well, I created this shitty job, so I have to take responsibility." Do you see how that attitude leaves you in a place unable to change anything?
Scientology is a concept born with the sole INTENT to enslave, to make people do things, anything that the fair leader or leaders want them to, even if this so called tech "works", it only does because it is doing exactly what it was intended to do, take your money and control you. That is IT. There is no enlightenment. There is no bridge to total freedom. There are no body thetans. There are no SP's. There was a paranoid schizophrenic who had a desire and a plan to enslave people, and he did and there is a man, DM who is evil and sadistic and gets pleasure out of torture, humiliation, and control of others. Who in the fuck would defend any of this? Why do you people defend this insanity! Some of you are really nice and seem to have abandoned completely, but some of you still talk your sciospeak, and defend this crippled, evil ideology. Why? Don't you understand that its crazy? Tell you what, pick up a copy of Das Capital by Carl Marx, and tell me if you see any similarities to LRH's writing. How about the Unibomber's manifesto? It is rambling. It is coming from the mind of someone mentally unstable. Get it? Put down your fucking E meters! Don't try and pick this stuff apart anymore! Scientology is a FRAUD! It is a SCAM! It is a LIE! All of it! Wake up people! Shit!
I don't see things as black and white. There are shades of grey and many other colors.
A knife can kill, it can cut food it is just a tool.
People have many sides. Presidents have affairs. They are not all good nor all bad.
Newtonian physics can't explain sub atomic physics. Does that make Newtonian physics wrong?
Can a doctor also be a rapist? Yes. But he still may be able to remove your gallbladder.
Can a schizophrenic be a great mathematician?
That is why I think there is good and bad in Scientology. I think it is in how you use it. It is in which parts of it you decide to use or not.
It is too big a subject to call it "all" a fraud, a scam a lie. That is like saying medicine is "all" a scam, fraud and a lie. Some of it is , some of it isn't.
When I read your post I thought:
• You have an incredible need to control people (like your boyfriend)
• You won't let him out of your relationship (like Scientology doesn't want people to leave)
• Your opinions are based on what you have heard. (like a Scientologist believes what Hubbard says about psychology)
• You believe your opinion is fact.
• Everything is black or white.
• You blow things out of proportion ( Claire was not "bent out of shape-but you clearly are)
• You think everyone should agree with you.
• When people don't agree with you then you get more loud and more angry and use profanity
• You think you are an expert on things you know very little about.
• You cannot even conceive how anyone could possibly have a different opinion than yours.
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You sound like a Scientologist to me.
You say you are disappointed in us because we seem not to agree with you.
You asked us what you should do about your boyfriend.
Most of us said to cut him loose, but you don't like that answer, so now you are disappointed in us.
You seem like a really controlling person who doesn't listen.
You should sign up for the Sea Org.
