Human Again
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RE: why don't they let you into the team and tell you what is delaying your session
Hi,
I will attempt a logical and honest answer.
- Although your auditor sees you as part of the team that is working to clear your bank, and although your CS may feel the same, and maybe even the D of P, other staff are being pushed to "make stats from the PCs". They are set up to see you as "public that must be handled" rather than as one of them. Thus the idea is to keep you in the dark pretty much so that they can make the decisions about where you are etc. It is too scary for an admin staff member to allow you the freedom to decide if you're going to hang around or wait. In case you decide to go and they lose their WDAHs for the day. There would likely be ethics conditions assigned, possibly quite bullying and harrasing statements made and the person who "let you go" would be ostracised. You see, the basic attitude that is drummed into every staff member is that the public are not fully on the team or they'd be staff/SO. They're not quite as good at making ethical decisions and so the best strategy is to make the decision for them and then 8-C them along into compliance.
I expect as you read this you will remember things that have been said or done that verify this. It isn't nice to hear. When I was in the SO I would have been very uncomfortable if you had asked me about this because it is true but isn't something one would say out loud to a public person. I would have found a way to re-frame it so it didn't look so blatanly patronising but that would have beeen a smokescreen.
One of the premises of Scientology is that individuals are "broken" ( abberated) and need to be "fixed" (cleared and taken through to OT) and that they will need to be 8-C'd through this because at some time they will not be "on purpose" enough to make survival descions for themselves. The bottom line is, the staff don't trust you to make a desision in their favour ie to stay and do what they need. They look at your other priorities as "other fish to fry" and are convinced that NOTHING is ever as important you engaging in your current step.
This is why you find Scientolgists who are bankrupt but "OT" they were 8-c'd into borrowing hughe ammounts of money when they were not really in a position to. The promise that "Once you're through this next bit of your bridge you'll be able to handle it" doesn't usualy prove true. Similarly you will sometimes find scientologists who neglect their families and give their time to the org - When I saw that as an SO member I saw it as someone who was so dedicated they had their priorities right. Now I realise that it actually was someone giving their time when they couldn't afford to. You will see many ex-Scn children on this board speaking about how they were neglected. It is screwed priority to work at an org and leave your kids/spouse/family because you believe that if you don't work at the org then the planet will suffer. Since I joined the SO in 1989 the world has NOT gone downhill terribly and it was NOT significantly helped by my years of dedicated service. What I lost, the pain I caused my family and the true cost of giving my time so freely has only recently become clear to me. I was sold on the idea that the SO members knew better, could better see what was important to me and never was a word spoken about my lost career, my lost chances to have a baby, my lost years with my family members who have since died, my lost years for building financial security. In truth anyone who mentioned those things were berrrated for having "other fish to fry", were delt with in ethics and were so deeply considered selfish that the words never needed to be spoken - it was just known and not done.
So, sorry for the longwinded answer but this is it - the staff don't want you to make a decision that may endanger their stats - and if they shared the real situation with you they run a very real chance that you would say "I have more important things to do. I'll come back later." They'd rather string you along with promises while they try and salvage their priorities because you are not part of the team in their eyes.
Natascha ex-Snr HAS International
PS Another reason could be that the staff and SO are always to be shown in the best light. It could be as little as your D of P can't find your folder or as serious as your auditor has blown. You will never know because they can't admit mistakes and certainly can't admit that everyone is not 100% happy. In 90% of my years in the SO I had no idea that some people were so unhappy - because it is a crime to show that you are unhappywith Scientology and this is one way they keep people under control.
It's a bit like that "don't discuss your case" rule. If you can't discuss it, you don't get to hear about the Jason Bege's who are unhappy about things. Or the hundreds of people who later said they "went clear" and it was nothing much at all. Dissapointments are unknownin scin\entology - not because they don't happen but because they are not allowed to be admitted. I bet all their success stories , Jason's included, sounded great. At at academy muster, when he gave his wins, people thought "I wish I were him. I must do that action", whereas as they now tells us, the "wins" were often empty.
I understand you are having fun - good on you - but keep your own counsel and don't be content to be a msuhroom in the dark. I admit I think it willhelp you get out of a losing game quicker, but even if that's not how you see it, it can't be a bad policy - be aware of what's happening and make your own decisions - insist on real information don't buy the PR.
All the best to you.
Natascha
Hi,
I will attempt a logical and honest answer.
- Although your auditor sees you as part of the team that is working to clear your bank, and although your CS may feel the same, and maybe even the D of P, other staff are being pushed to "make stats from the PCs". They are set up to see you as "public that must be handled" rather than as one of them. Thus the idea is to keep you in the dark pretty much so that they can make the decisions about where you are etc. It is too scary for an admin staff member to allow you the freedom to decide if you're going to hang around or wait. In case you decide to go and they lose their WDAHs for the day. There would likely be ethics conditions assigned, possibly quite bullying and harrasing statements made and the person who "let you go" would be ostracised. You see, the basic attitude that is drummed into every staff member is that the public are not fully on the team or they'd be staff/SO. They're not quite as good at making ethical decisions and so the best strategy is to make the decision for them and then 8-C them along into compliance.
I expect as you read this you will remember things that have been said or done that verify this. It isn't nice to hear. When I was in the SO I would have been very uncomfortable if you had asked me about this because it is true but isn't something one would say out loud to a public person. I would have found a way to re-frame it so it didn't look so blatanly patronising but that would have beeen a smokescreen.
One of the premises of Scientology is that individuals are "broken" ( abberated) and need to be "fixed" (cleared and taken through to OT) and that they will need to be 8-C'd through this because at some time they will not be "on purpose" enough to make survival descions for themselves. The bottom line is, the staff don't trust you to make a desision in their favour ie to stay and do what they need. They look at your other priorities as "other fish to fry" and are convinced that NOTHING is ever as important you engaging in your current step.
This is why you find Scientolgists who are bankrupt but "OT" they were 8-c'd into borrowing hughe ammounts of money when they were not really in a position to. The promise that "Once you're through this next bit of your bridge you'll be able to handle it" doesn't usualy prove true. Similarly you will sometimes find scientologists who neglect their families and give their time to the org - When I saw that as an SO member I saw it as someone who was so dedicated they had their priorities right. Now I realise that it actually was someone giving their time when they couldn't afford to. You will see many ex-Scn children on this board speaking about how they were neglected. It is screwed priority to work at an org and leave your kids/spouse/family because you believe that if you don't work at the org then the planet will suffer. Since I joined the SO in 1989 the world has NOT gone downhill terribly and it was NOT significantly helped by my years of dedicated service. What I lost, the pain I caused my family and the true cost of giving my time so freely has only recently become clear to me. I was sold on the idea that the SO members knew better, could better see what was important to me and never was a word spoken about my lost career, my lost chances to have a baby, my lost years with my family members who have since died, my lost years for building financial security. In truth anyone who mentioned those things were berrrated for having "other fish to fry", were delt with in ethics and were so deeply considered selfish that the words never needed to be spoken - it was just known and not done.
So, sorry for the longwinded answer but this is it - the staff don't want you to make a decision that may endanger their stats - and if they shared the real situation with you they run a very real chance that you would say "I have more important things to do. I'll come back later." They'd rather string you along with promises while they try and salvage their priorities because you are not part of the team in their eyes.
Natascha ex-Snr HAS International
PS Another reason could be that the staff and SO are always to be shown in the best light. It could be as little as your D of P can't find your folder or as serious as your auditor has blown. You will never know because they can't admit mistakes and certainly can't admit that everyone is not 100% happy. In 90% of my years in the SO I had no idea that some people were so unhappy - because it is a crime to show that you are unhappywith Scientology and this is one way they keep people under control.
It's a bit like that "don't discuss your case" rule. If you can't discuss it, you don't get to hear about the Jason Bege's who are unhappy about things. Or the hundreds of people who later said they "went clear" and it was nothing much at all. Dissapointments are unknownin scin\entology - not because they don't happen but because they are not allowed to be admitted. I bet all their success stories , Jason's included, sounded great. At at academy muster, when he gave his wins, people thought "I wish I were him. I must do that action", whereas as they now tells us, the "wins" were often empty.
I understand you are having fun - good on you - but keep your own counsel and don't be content to be a msuhroom in the dark. I admit I think it willhelp you get out of a losing game quicker, but even if that's not how you see it, it can't be a bad policy - be aware of what's happening and make your own decisions - insist on real information don't buy the PR.
All the best to you.
Natascha
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