Imagine

[La La Lou Lou]

Ethicsbait, everyone I know who is an ex scientologist had half formed doubts even when they were 'on purpose' they just couldn't dare take them seriously.

Your friends are like that too.

One day they'll join the jig-saw pieces together and see what the picture is of.

 

[AngeloV]

Welcome to ESMB.

I don't have to imagine, I lived it.

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Me too!

Same as happened to me too - no imaginin' needed!



EP

 

[Hypnotarian]

Beautiful!

Welcome Newbie EeeBee!

Imagine your life as a totally free being, who can communicate with anyone you choose, in your own way and on your own terms, with no fears of reprisals.

Imagine living with no fear of sec checks or ethics actions, ever again.

Imagine choosing for yourself exactly what you want to read, where you want to go, what you want to do with your life!

Imagine sharing stories with and helping and encouraging others who were lied to, duped and brainwashed, too, and who understand, because they have been where you are now.

This is all true! This can be your life once you fully free yourself.

You have many new friends waiting to lend a helping hand once you take those final steps to freedom.

And who knows, maybe your friends still in the COS will follow you out to Freedom, and a wonderful life also? Maybe you are a leader for them and don't know it yet...

You've taken an important step in getting into comm with us here.

We'll be here for you when you take another.

Nothing else in your life can compensate for not being free.

I want you to live the best life you can live up to your fullest potential as a free being.

I want you to flourish and thrive and prosper in real life, in total freedom away from COS.

It's your life. You owe it to your self to act in your own best interest, and fulfill your dreams. You owe it to the rest of us not to waste your talents and energy supporting a destructive and harmful cult, when you could be doing some real good in the world. We need caring people like you who want to help others, badly.

You can do it! I have confidence in your abilities to work this out, and get free!

More power to you on your journey to real freedom.

 

[GoNuclear]

Join the club

Been lurking for a while. Am a trained auditor and have been around for a while. I wrote this a few days ago. Hope to break free one day and really be able to communicate. Until then:

IMAGINE

Imagine finding something that really makes you feel good and relieves a pain inside of you to the point of joyousness.

Imagine having that happen to you a few times on important issues in your life.

Imagine now believing in this so whole heartedly you spend years and thousands of dollars to be able to do to others what was done to you.

Imagine forsaking your friends and family in this pursuit.

Imagine believing “if they only knew” and truly believing that one day you would show up like a white knight and in the blink of an eye you would be able to solve whatever problem your friends and family may have and that then they would “finally know too”.

Imagine coming to a state where you knew about the other “ones who know” but that you were REALLY the only ones who really knew the “Truth”.

IMAGINE GETTING TO THE POINT OF BELIEVING YOU WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO COULD SAVE MANKIND FROM HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now imagine it was all a lie and you were duped and brainwashed.


I know this may be hard to imagine.

It happened to me.



I am very sorry to say I can not sign this at this time. If I did they will come after me as a Apostate and try to ruin me and will take away some of my dear friends.

Anonymous

It happened to all of us here to one degree or another. I don't blame Cof$ ... they run one hell of a great con game, and I was fished in. I have nobody to blame but me. In my case, I left before reaching the Xenu story punch line officially with all that would have cost. Nevertheless, when I saw the punchline in the Bent Corydon book, I damn near peed in my pants laughing, it was one hell of a little hokey jokey that was played on me. I will admit, though, it will be enormously gratifying to see DM locked up or absconded and the Cof$ taken down.

Pete

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Been lurking for a while. Am a trained auditor and have been around for a while. I wrote this a few days ago. Hope to break free one day and really be able to communicate. Until then:

IMAGINE

Imagine finding something that really makes you feel good and relieves a pain inside of you to the point of joyousness.

Imagine having that happen to you a few times on important issues in your life.

Imagine now believing in this so whole heartedly you spend years and thousands of dollars to be able to do to others what was done to you.

Imagine forsaking your friends and family in this pursuit.

Imagine believing “if they only knew” and truly believing that one day you would show up like a white knight and in the blink of an eye you would be able to solve whatever problem your friends and family may have and that then they would “finally know too”.

Imagine coming to a state where you knew about the other “ones who know” but that you were REALLY the only ones who really knew the “Truth”.

IMAGINE GETTING TO THE POINT OF BELIEVING YOU WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO COULD SAVE MANKIND FROM HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now imagine it was all a lie and you were duped and brainwashed.


I know this may be hard to imagine.

It happened to me.



I am very sorry to say I can not sign this at this time. If I did they will come after me as a Apostate and try to ruin me and will take away some of my dear friends.

Anonymous

This impinged on me, I really do hope you break free (you may have taken the biggest step already by registering here).

snipped from the OP by ethicsbait

Imagine finding something that really makes you feel good and relieves a pain inside of you to the point of joyousness.

You have found the very thing ... ESMB.

 

[Lurker5]

Great Post

Welcome Newbie EeeBee!

Imagine your life as a totally free being, who can communicate with anyone you choose, in your own way and on your own terms, with no fears of reprisals.

Imagine living with no fear of sec checks or ethics actions, ever again.

Imagine choosing for yourself exactly what you want to read, where you want to go, what you want to do with your life!

Imagine sharing stories with and helping and encouraging others who were lied to, duped and brainwashed, too, and who understand, because they have been where you are now.

This is all true! This can be your life once you fully free yourself.

You have many new friends waiting to lend a helping hand once you take those final steps to freedom.

And who knows, maybe your friends still in the COS will follow you out to Freedom, and a wonderful life also? Maybe you are a leader for them and don't know it yet...

You've taken an important step in getting into comm with us here.

We'll be here for you when you take another.

Nothing else in your life can compensate for not being free.

I want you to live the best life you can live up to your fullest potential as a free being.

I want you to flourish and thrive and prosper in real life, in total freedom away from COS.

It's your life. You owe it to your self to act in your own best interest, and fulfill your dreams. You owe it to the rest of us not to waste your talents and energy supporting a destructive and harmful cult, when you could be doing some real good in the world. We need caring people like you who want to help others, badly.

You can do it! I have confidence in your abilities to work this out, and get free!

More power to you on your journey to real freedom.

S&L this is GREAT ! Thanks.

 

[Wisened One]

Yeah, Ethicsbait: Just..'imagine'..huh?

to ESMB, btw! Looking forward to hearing more stories from ya, we LOVE them!

 

[Ladybird]

Great write-up Imagine. I believed 100%. I jumped in to the deep end with both feet and didn't even hold my nose.

Some people say we were stupid or gullible, but that's not really accurate. We cared and we believed and we wanted to help. I wanted to save the world. I knew nobody else ever had, but I wanted to believe in the possibility that maybe it could happen.

It is kind of hard to find something to replace that purpose and camaraderie.

I think what we feel might be a faint echo of soldiers in a real war, but it still sucked and it was a huge betrayal and loss of years of our lives and our dreams.

If I can help one person avoid the cult or put their family back together it is all worth it to me.

 

[ethicsbait]

I want to express my appreciation for so many people welcoming me. This is not the academy awards so I will not thank you individually (though I want to) but big thanks. Your remarks are insightful and I really enjoy reading them.

Atalantan, you asked:

So, did you or did you not find something that that really made you feel good and relieved a pain inside of you to the point of joyousness?

Yes I did and I also feel that when I make love to my girl friend/boy friend:confused2:, or feel a really strong connection to a movie, or accomplish a job and get a knowing compliment. I think it was the right time and the unusual circumstances that “duped” me with the auditing. And more to the point, my girl friend/boy friend:confused2:, the movie or the job never made me promises that “this is only the beginning, we have the answer to all questions etc etc etc. That is where the con and the betrayal come in. I was promised that I would be more capable, that I would reach a point where I no longer had to go through the cycle of death and birth etc, but in truth, the “joyousness” was transient just like the other “joyousness” experiences in my life.

Of the aprox 60 friends and family that were willing to come in and try auditing, thankfully it was not the “right time” for any of them and none joined. I really thought they just did not get it, they were too low toned, the right tech was not applied, the auditor flubbed, bla bla bla. *&^% no, the tech does not really work in the long run, you just get the good feelings, good for what it is but not what is promised.

Take a look at the PTS/SP course. Shatter suppression. Yea right. I have seen more than one person made to do that course 3-4 times; they are still meek and could not shatter a glass on concrete let alone someone coming down on them. This is not to denigrate them, but illustrate the tech does not work. I remember seeing Cruise’s freedom medal talk where he says SP’s just don’t mess with me, they don’t come into my space, then a few weeks later he gets a squirt gun in the face on the red carpet. Karma baby karma.

I have been around for a lot of years and seen people start at the beginning and go way up the bridge, and I see very little real change, and no real new abilities. As one example, the ones making big money when they entered continued to do so, and the ones that were poor are still the same (their ability to go up the bridge came from inheritance, not income earning ability). And that is the test, were the promises and claims realized, and Scientology has failed that test.

The truth is there is so much more to this and I know I am rambling but my mind is overwhelmed right now. I am quite angry about it all.

These are only my insights and my opinions of what I have been through and what I have seen. Your mileage may vary.

Again, thanks for the warm welcome.

THANK YOU EMMA for giving me a place to express myself, I feel a little better now.

P.S. I have purposefully made this post a bit flamboyant and altered some facts to drive my OSA “friends” crazy. It will be fun if I get to hear some gossip about this post “me”, ha-ha. Though I altered facts, the points I make are absolutely valid. I like most of the people in and out that I have known, really good, misguided like me, people. But I must say COB is not the only evil member and that’s a fact jack.

 

[degraded being]

Imagine..saving yourself from living your life as a brainwashed idiot..
Welcome to ESMB.

 

[Wisened One]

I hear ya, ethicsbait!

And same here on my family/friends. None of them joined, either. (thank god!)

 

[blownstaffmember]

Been lurking for a while. Am a trained auditor and have been around for a while. I wrote this a few days ago. Hope to break free one day and really be able to communicate. Until then:

IMAGINE

Imagine finding something that really makes you feel good and relieves a pain inside of you to the point of joyousness.

Imagine having that happen to you a few times on important issues in your life.

Imagine now believing in this so whole heartedly you spend years and thousands of dollars to be able to do to others what was done to you.

Imagine forsaking your friends and family in this pursuit.

Imagine believing “if they only knew” and truly believing that one day you would show up like a white knight and in the blink of an eye you would be able to solve whatever problem your friends and family may have and that then they would “finally know too”.

Imagine coming to a state where you knew about the other “ones who know” but that you were REALLY the only ones who really knew the “Truth”.

IMAGINE GETTING TO THE POINT OF BELIEVING YOU WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO COULD SAVE MANKIND FROM HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now imagine it was all a lie and you were duped and brainwashed.


I know this may be hard to imagine.

It happened to me.



I am very sorry to say I can not sign this at this time. If I did they will come after me as a Apostate and try to ruin me and will take away some of my dear friends.

Anonymous

Happened to many of us. Me too. You're among (real) friends.

 

[xseaorguk]

It reminds me of when people used to get into Amway and you had to try and convince people to buy products from you, you know the usual expensive washing up liquid and cleaning products, perfume etc.
I went to a few Amway meetings, and wow...there really was a great hype and lots of love bombing going on and it was all about how you were going to change your life for good.
I came away from thiose meetings feeling full of adrenalin and ready to go.
But then you got home and tried convincing your dear friends to buy into the Amway "way of life" anf they gave me that weird look, like when you told somebody you were into $cientology.
What was/is the difference?
Well, for me not much at all.
They are both pyramid con schemes and very commercial.
Both lead to you losing friends and family and scar you for life.

In fact there are still people in the town where I live who remind me of my affiliation with $cientology.
Somebody I hardly know, a neighbour, recently dropped that bomb on me when in a casual conversation about the weather.
I find myself wanting to defend by telling them that it was a long time ago, in fact 30 years.
Such a bad name the cult has in the mean time, and people don't forget things like that.

 

[Gottabrain]

WELCOME to ESMB!

::

Wonderful post. You are in good company. We've all had our best intentions and idealism used to support a destructive organization. We were stupid. Oh well... we smartened up though and made it here, didn't we?

But you are still a good person. You are still the good person you were before Scn. Your heart was in the right place.

BIG HUGS TO YOU. I look forward to seeing more posts. It's okay you are Anonymous. Don't worry about revealing yourself. Emma runs the Board and she is totally trustworthy, so you are safe here. You are with friends who understand, too.



Sheila

 

[AnonKat]

Been lurking for a while. Am a trained auditor and have been around for a while. I wrote this a few days ago. Hope to break free one day and really be able to communicate. Until then:

IMAGINE

Imagine finding something that really makes you feel good and relieves a pain inside of you to the point of joyousness.

Imagine having that happen to you a few times on important issues in your life.

Imagine now believing in this so whole heartedly you spend years and thousands of dollars to be able to do to others what was done to you.

Imagine forsaking your friends and family in this pursuit.

Imagine believing “if they only knew” and truly believing that one day you would show up like a white knight and in the blink of an eye you would be able to solve whatever problem your friends and family may have and that then they would “finally know too”.

Imagine coming to a state where you knew about the other “ones who know” but that you were REALLY the only ones who really knew the “Truth”.

IMAGINE GETTING TO THE POINT OF BELIEVING YOU WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO COULD SAVE MANKIND FROM HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now imagine it was all a lie and you were duped and brainwashed.


I know this may be hard to imagine.

It happened to me.



I am very sorry to say I can not sign this at this time. If I did they will come after me as a Apostate and try to ruin me and will take away some of my dear friends.

Anonymous

Why hello there EthicsBait Anon

 

[NoName]

I don't know how much of my story you have seen. Someone I love very much is "in" and I want to get that person out. What sort of things convinced you it was a load of crap in the end?

Feel free to fictionalize a bit if you need. Mainly I want to know what you heard/read/saw or if it was someone saying something. Especially if it was someone saying something. Since I want to bring down the house of cards as soon as I can