Shelley at the South African Independent Scientology blog Scientologists Back In Comm is not well-pleased:
https://backincomm.wordpress.com/2015/02/12/the-great-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-15331
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Shelley on February 15, 2015 at 2:21 am said:
Racingtheblood: I totally agree that Dror is an incredible group. I had the pleasure of meeting Dani & Tami at the Indy/Sp event last weekend, and they are wonderful people indeed. Despite the fact that there were a wide diversity of Indies (including Ron’s Org) in attendance, Dani and Tami granted total beingness to everyone – whatever their viewpoint and no matter their Indy affiliation.
I cannot however say the same about MS2.
I was somewhat taken aback at the most recent article on MS2 headed “South Africa anyone?”. The article stated they had reaches for auditing in South Africa and that these people want “the LRH bridge”. (An earlier version of the same article made a Freudian slip of saying “they are NOT wanting the LRH bridge” – but this was later corrected).
The immediate outpoint I noted was this: Why was this article put out on a public forum in the first place? The heading alone set the tone of what was to come, and I cannot help feeling that this article was a snide bullbait and swipe at the Indy scene in South Africa and the BIC blog. Lana has been in contact with people in South Africa – she knows very well that Mark Shreffler has just been here and she has clearly been in comm with BIC before, so how come she didn’t address this issue privately with her South African comm lines? Why throw this out there for people to have a “BIC and SA bashing” party?
Even after BIC responded, (which comment interestingly was held back and only published much later) they continued to allow comments denigrating the Indy scene in South Africa and the BIC blog.
As far as I am aware, BIC has never made or allowed any comments against MS2 – in fact they even used one of Lana’s articles with her permission some time ago, and earlier on in this discussion thread the author of this article validated MS2. Furthermore, BIC has made it clear that they do not take a stand nor are they a mouthpiece for or against any “Indy” group. Their “no man’s land” policy is an admirable one as far as I am concerned.
This is clearly not the stance of MS2 who seem to have appointed themselves as the universal Qual Division of every Independent Scientology activity across the planet and they alone have the right to approve or disapprove of what is LRH Tech and what isn’t.
Imagine my reaction and disappointment when I came across an MS2 article in which they all had a jolly good time bashing BIC and Chris Shelton after BIC had posted those brilliant videos of Chris’ explaining HIS VIEWPOINT of what had gone wrong in the Church. Personally, I really enjoyed these videos, and I feel that Chris made a valuable contribution in terms of explaining the complex labyrinth of Corporate Scientology (or RCS as it’s commonly known). I don’t care that Chris no longer considers himself a Scientologist – does this make him less of a human being and therefore not worthy to communicate his viewpoint? I think not. That man gave up something like 37 years of his life for a cause he truly believed in, and he has EVERY right to speak his mind and more importantly be heard and acknowledged.
MS2 engaging in a bashing of BIC and Chris Shelton melee and further knocking BIC for having the nerve to give Chris airtime was, in my opinion, unacceptable and conduct unbecoming of people purporting to be “real” Scientologists. Reading further on their blog, I came across an article in which they positioned themselves and “the ONLY true Scientologists” on the planet. If that is the case, then granting beingness to others, embracing the ARC triangle, The Creed & Aims of Scientology should be their mantra. So how come they see fit to engage in disparaging and denigrating remarks about good people on their blog? I have read a number of their articles and comments and it is amazing to see the atmosphere of sanctimonious “we are right and others are wrong” attitude being communicated on that blog.
MS2 claims to apply “100% LRH”. Which part of LRH are they applying by publicly denigrating fellow Scn’s and other blogs which are trying to expose Church crimes and generally HELP? How come they skipped all the early steps of the ethics gradients and went straight onto “public statements made against……”. At the very least don’t you think they should have taken this issue up with the BIC admins privately? What part of the ARC tech were they applying by allowing a public lashing of BIC and Chris Shelton? What about the Two Rules for Happy Living? And more importantly, how abut the Creed which states “all men have inalienable rights to speak freely……..”.
MS2’s reaction to BIC giving Chris Shelton airtime and acknowledgement was indicative of the same type of knee-jerk reaction of the Church. Who exactly appointed or put MS2 in charge of qualling what is ok and not ok to discuss or publish on other blogs and who gave them the right to put their “seal of approval” on other Independent auditors and groups applying LRH Tech?
I think it’s very clear that BIC is NOT an anti-SCN and anti-LRH blog – and I appreciate that they try to give everyone the right to their own viewpoint (within reason of course).
But for some reason this has got up MS2’s nose and they have made no secret how they feel about the South African Indy field and the BIC blog. So who is granting who beingness here and who is truly applying “What is Greatness”?
For me, that answer is very clear.
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It appears racingintheblood39 at BIC agrees:
https://backincomm.wordpress.com/2015/02/12/the-great-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-15342
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The stoney silence factor I began to experience, made it clear I was no longer welcome at MS2. That’s okay by me, since today, we are all free to associate with whom we choose. I still wish her well with her endeavors, never-the-less. as long as they continue to help people with the tech.
BUT, Shelley, they would do well to take heed of your criticisms of “appointing themselves as the only ones” Granting of beingness, and showing a respect for the clear mandate of your moderation policy, is about as middle of the road as one can get.
In short, Shelley, i really get you, so thanks. Chin up!
Best, Calvin.
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As does FG at BIC:
https://backincomm.wordpress.com/2015/02/12/the-great-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-15349
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Thanks Racingintheblood39.
To also react on the position of MS2. I like their essays always interesting and they have a very good vintage taste of old scientology before Miscavige.
But when they take the position to tell who is a standard auditor or not, they take a position none invited them to take.
They become I would say a kind of “independant RTC”.
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Lana at Milestone Two really doesn't apprecaite the "nattery response" at BIC, but tries to quash any public beef:
https://milestonetwo.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/south-africa-anyone/comment-page-1/#comment-7529
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Lana M. says:
February 15, 2015 at 11:17 pm
Notice to all persons that comment on MS 2 blog, a nattery negative comment about MS 2 has been placed on BIC in the last few hours, inviting debate and more negative comments.
Please do NOT sink into a low toned games condition with that individual or the person who is in her ear. Drop it. Not feeding the entheta is the best solution. It is not the MS 2 game.
Any comments that engage in a games condition relating to the BIC commentary will be deleted from this thread.
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