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Independent Scientology Milestone Two republishes LRH reform survey and creates reform website.

New Milestone Two Scientology Reform website: Scientology Needs Reform

http://scientologyneedsreform.org/

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Milestone Two: In a gentle way you can shake the world

https://milestonetwo.wordpress.com/2015/06/14/in-a-gentle-way-you-can-shake-the-world/

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Posted by Lana M.

June 14, 2015

by Milestone Two crew

In August of 1968, L.Ron Hubbard issued an international questionnaire from Scientology organizations.

Hundreds of thousands of surveys were sent out, and the purpose of the questionnaire was to find out what the international community felt would make the conduct of Scientology and its organizations more acceptable.

Over a period of several months the results of the international survey were tabulated, reviewed and then acted upon by LRH with the issuance of what came to be called “the Reform Codes”. Details are given in Ron’s Journal 68, which was issued to all public on New Year’s Eve of 1969, and this was followed shortly by a number of new policy letters giving details of the reforms.

We want to thank RV for providing us with the original Ron’s Journal as well as the LRH instructions leading up to it, and the policy that was consequent to it.You can listen to RJ 68 here. It is interesting to hear LRH state there are to be no public events and no fundraising. It is also interesting to hear him describe how we must cease to individuate, must carry our message to the world, and not get into witch hunting or hurting our friends. “There is no reason we should do it to others — ever”.

The list of policy letters that make up the Reform Code are significant and include the cancellation of disconnection, fair game and security checking, as well as the issuance of new projects and initiatives to deal with what came up in the survey results (such as lack of community involvement and engagement, invalidation of auditors, blocks to training, ethics protection and so on). LRH details these in a policy issued in February 1969:

“This check-list of HCO Bs and Pol Ltrs is referred to directly or indirectly in Ron’s Journal ’68 and the list should be available to Org Executives. Any of these may be distributed to the public.”

3RD PARTY LAW

1. HCO B Dec 26, 1968 The Third Party Law

GUNG-HO GROUPS
2. HCO Pol Nov 24, 196 8 The Group Officer
3. HCOPolDec 2,1968 Gung-Ho Groups
4. HCO Pol Dec 3, 1968 Gung-Ho Groups
5. HCO Pol Dec 14,1968 How to Register Gung-Ho Groups
6. HCO Pol Dec 14,1968 Gung-Ho Group Courses
7. HCO Pol Dec 18, 1968 Warning Gung-Ho Groups
8. HCO Pol Dec 26,1968 Gung-Ho Group Tech
9. HCO Pol Dec 30, 1968 The Public Programmes Officer
10. HCO Pol Jan 29, 1969 Public Division Org Board Revised (Corrected)
11. HCO Pol Jan 31, 1969 Humanitarian Objective and Gung-Ho Groups

TARGETS
12. HCO Pol Jan 14, 1969 OT Orgs
13. HCO Pol Jan 16, 1969 Targets, Types of
14. HCO Pol Jan 18, 1969 Planning and Targets
ls~ HCO Pol Jan 23, 1969 OT Orgs Correction
16, HCO Pol Jan 24, 1969 Purpose & Targets
17. HCO Pol Jan 24, 1969 Target Types
18. HCO B Jan 25, 1969 Targets & Computers

REFORM CODE
19. HCO Pol Aug 26,1968 Security Checks Abolished
20. HCO Pol Oct 21, 1968 Cancellation of Fair Game
21. HCO Pol Nov 15, 1968 Disconnection Cancelled

NEW AUDITOR’S CODE
22. HCO Pol Oct 14, 1968 Auditor’s Code AD 18
23. HCO Pol Nov 2,1968 Auditor’s Code

NEW CODE OF A SCIENTOLOGIST

24. HCO Pol Feb 5, 1969 Press Policy-Code of a Scientologist

ATTESTATION
25. HCO Pol Mar 29,1965 The Fast Flow System Issue 11
26. HCO Pol Feb 6, 1968 Organization-The Flaw
27. HCOPolFeb 7,1968 Ethics-Fast Flow and Ethics
28. HCO Pol Feb 24, 1968 Fast Flow for SHSBC Students’ Preclears
29. HCO Pol Mar 14, 1968 Policies Governing the (Re-issue May 8, 1968) Qualifications Division
30. LRH ED 82 Int Attestation Reinstated
31. HCO Pol Jan 28, 1969 Addition to Pol Mar 14, 1968

ETHICS PROTECTION
32. HCO Pol Feb 13, 1969 Ethics Protection Conditions, Blue Star, Green Star,*Gold Star

Unfortunately the majority of these reform policies were either never implemented, or were cross ordered at some point since. The current management of Scientology uses sec checking and disconnection as ways to control parishioners. Gung-ho groups don’t exist and instead Division 6’s have become walls of video screens with no actual community engagement. Target policy has been used in oppressive ways to set suppressive (off-policy) targets and then force them through, using heavy ethics. Third party law is a lost technology. The fast-flow system is no longer in use, superseded by Golden Age of Tech drills.There is no such thing as Ethics Protection any more, and the list goes on…

For those who have been in and around the C of S for the last 20 – 30 years they will find LRH’s message in RJ 68 very different from what they have witnessed and experienced within Scientology organisations.

In LRH’s instructions to the orgs in 1968, he stated the following about the questionnaire:

“The Questionnaire is designed to apply the Liability Formula to the community (Scientology’s entry into the community). We are asking them what they think would make the conduct of Scientology and its organizations more acceptable. We will then put together a Code of Reform from the answers which we will publish. The Questionnaire is as follows (leaving space for answers).

“Dear ,

“Scientology is new.

“It contains many answers to the behavior of Man and is a practical philosophy which can be applied to make changes for the better.

“But it is new, and being new it has had somewhat of an impact upon the community.

“We desire to establish a Code of Reform which we will publish; and being an active member of the community; we request your help in establishing this Code. You can do this by kindly answering the following questions and returning it to us in the self-addressed, return envelope enclosed.

“1. What reforms if any would you like effected in what you may have heard of or know of Scientology organizations or policies?

“2. What changes in conduct or what conduct would you suggest to Scientologists?

“3. What services would you like Scientology to perform in the community?

“4. How could Scientology better fit in with the aims and purposes of your area of interest?

“Thank you for your assistance in this project. We shall mail you a copy of the Code of Reform when all results to this questionnaire have been tabulated and the Code of Reform published.

“Sincerely yours,

“Organization Secretary”


To get this questionnaire distributed widely and the results collated and back to LRH, there was an exact project that was issued to all orgs in 1968, and you can see the details here:

LRH ED 14 INT, 1 August 1968

BROAD PUBLIC QUESTIONNAIRE

ALERT: ALL ORG EXEC SECS, PUBLIC EXEC SECS AND DISTRIBUTION SECS

You will be sent a Public Questionnaire and a Short History of Dianetics and Scientology with which you are to do the following:

1. Get these printed separately in sufficient quantity to mail to all the addresses required, the Questionnaire and the Short History to go to every addressee.

2. Get the envelopes readied for it, fully addressed with address stickers and with a return address envelope included. Prepare another set of envelopes for a second mailing.

3. Obtain addresses of the following (such as from Classified Telephone Directories):

a. All members of the National government and governmental agencies. (These are only to be collected by the Continental Org, or if no Continental Org, the Org present in the capital city or nearest to it.)

b. All members of the State or Provincial government.

c. All members of the local city government or council.

d. All newspapers.

e. All press agencies.

f. All public information agencies.

g. All local civic groups.

h. All doctors.

i. All psychiatrists.

j. All members of mental health groups.

k. All churches and ministers.

l. All reform groups.

m. All political party headquarters and their members.

n. All tradesmen.

o. All business associations.

p. All schools, colleges, and universities.

q. Police.

r. Lawyers.

s. Children groups – Child welfare, NAPCC etc.

t. Womens’ groups, garden clubs etc.

u. Mens’ groups, Rotarians etc.

4. Mail out the Public Questionnaire and Short History of Dianetics and Scientology with return address envelope enclosed.

5. Keep an accurate and correct count (statistic) of all mailed.

6. All replies are to be counted as they are returned and carefully kept.

7. The results and answers are to be categorized and summarized as to results.

8. After a 4 weeks’ period has elapsed since the mailing of the Questionnaire, the summaries and Questionnaires are to be mailed to the Public Exec Sec WW, who will check them over and then mail them to the Sea Org.

COMPLIANCE REPORTS

LRH Communicators are to keep a compliance project file on this activity and are to report to the LRH Comm WW all compliances to this ED as they occur. The LRH Comm WW will keep a progress CIC (Command Information Center) Board on each of these nine steps for all Orgs.

Any non-compliances or no reports are to be severely dealt with.

PUBLICATIONS ORG WW

The Publications Org WW will be responsible for supplying the printing platten to all orgs at the greatest possible speed. The orgs will individually be responsible for getting them printed.

The make-up is to be excellently and superbly done.

Anything less than perfect will be considered sabotage to the whole project.

… (questionnaire listed) …

When the Code of Reform has been summated at the Sea Org, it will be published and the final and last step will be done.

9. The Code of Reform is mailed to all orgs, the number being the number of questionnaires mailed and the second set of addresses will be used for this purpose.

L. RON HUBBARD


So why do we bring up this questionnaire and Ron’s Journal 68, almost 50 years on?

There are several reasons:

1. Many years ago, management of the Church of Scientology did not implement, cancelled, or cross ordered LRH’s 1968 reforms (even though this meant continuing with activities and conduct that was proven, by survey, to cause upset and have a negative impact on individuals, families and communities). Ron’s Journal 68 has not publicly available for decades and is not included in any of the newly released lectures or materials. Most current-day parishioners have not known it exists. To hear LRH explain what was happening and what he wanted done in 1968/9, and then see the direct contradiction in the C of S’s actions, makes the publishing of all this information important.

2. People’s upsets (ARCXs) lower the affinity, reality and communication of Scientology and of Scientologists, and in truth, an ARCXen field and community are the only real products of the Church of Scientology for the last several decades. Case gain is not possible when there are out-rudiments, and on a broad basis while there are continued upsets being created by the Church of Scientology, the worse off the international “case” becomes. The only thing people have in common is their bank – and out-rudiments prevent resolution of such.

3. There are barely a handful of ‘old timer Scientologists’ who are still “in good standing” within the C of S. Those who studied under LRH, worked with him personally, or were part of the Reform Code project are no longer around to speak up.

4. The disgraceful state of international “public relations” of the Church of Scientology reflects poorly on LRH and on his incredible body of work, as the C of S continues to insist that they are following his policies and principles, when in fact what they are practicing does not resemble LRH’s philosophy or anything else.

5. We have a broader responsibility, past our 1st, 2nd and 3rd Dynamics to help destimulate communities locally and further afield. Scientology includes simple technologies that assist communities and one of the simplest way to handle upsets and bypassed charge is to use the two-way communication formula. By actually wanting to talk to people and find out what is troubling, worrying or concerning them, you can bleed off charge and get relief. LRH’s questionnaire was effective in doing that in 1968, and now in 2015 it is badly needed again.

6. By republishing LRH’s Reform Questionnaire and getting it distributed widely by using our vast international online communication and media lines, we can find out what the international community needs the Church of Scientology to change in terms of their ongoing policies, programs and activities, so as to not only be accepted within communities, but also to then contribute to them. Yes, we too will be adding our answers to those questions, and we ask anyone and everyone to do the same.

So… here is a project that each and every one of our readers, followers, subscribers and supporters can be involved in.

We have created a new online survey, using LRH’s original survey questions. We have also created a website at
www.scientologyneedsreform.org, which gives details of the survey, why it is being done, who we want to hear from, who we are, and what the survey results will be used for.

We need the link to this site sent to as many people as possible – both Scientologists and non-Scientologists alike. We want people who have never read an LRH book or done a Scientology service, to fill out the survey. We want members of communities around the world, who are not Scientologists, to fill out the survey. We want people who have only heard of Scientology in the news, or through friends and family, to fill out the survey. We want former Sea Org members and staff members to fill out the survey. We want former and also ex-Scientologists to fill out the survey. We also want current Scientologists to give their responses to LRH’s questions.

We want to get the survey published in media, online, in magazines, newspapers, and anywhere it can be distributed and made known. If you are a journalist, or have friends or family who are, ask them to run a story on this, and include the survey line. If you can afford it, have a small ad placed in a local or regional or international newspaper, giving the link to the survey, and simply asking for public to take a few minutes to fill provide their views. If you have networks, lines or connections that can get the survey onto media channels of any kind, please assist us and get the survey promoted.

If you are a professional, in any field, please send the link to all your contacts. You need not say if you are for or against Scientology. Simply ask that they take a few minutes to answer the survey, and forward it on to their own personal and professional contacts.LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter and many more channels can be used. Please share the survey to all you know and ask them to do the same. It can even be done “chain letter” style, where each person who fills it out then sends it to another 5 or more people.

We need people to post the link to support groups for families, women, children, etc, and we need to send it to online groups and professional directories.

If you can assist us to translate the survey into French, Italian, German, Russian, Spanish, Mexican, etc. please let us know so we can get the survey distributed to non-English speaking persons as well (and for those countries that routinely speak 2 – 3 languages, please help us to get the online survey made available).

If you can spend a few hours every week, helping to find new ways to distribute the survey, your assistance on this would be appreciated.

Our target is 1 million answers. And we are in no rush. The project will take many months, or even a year – and we are quite content with that, as long as the survey continues to circulate.

And tabulation is going to be an arduous but vital part of the project. Volunteers are needed (will all be done on-line).

Once we have at least 1 million tabulated responses, we will publicly present the results to the Church of Scientology, and insist on reform. By using the LRH Reform survey and following the exact steps that he took in 1968 to find out what the international community felt would make the conduct of Scientology and its organizations more acceptable, the C of S can only but comply. And we will use public media lines to insist on reform.

The process of the survey will bleed off charge, which has been steadily building now for several decades.

It is a simple project. It is using LRH tech to handle the situation we find ourselves in. And it is something that WE, here in the field, can personally do about the current scene.

Please help us to get this disseminated as broadly as possible.

Here is the link.


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HelluvaHoax!

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OMG.

That is one of the most delusional "handlings" I have ever seen by a Scientology group, and I have seen some real mental-meltdown doozies! LOL

FIRST PROBLEM: The predicate is that Hubbard "reformed" Scientology in 1968. However, it was Hubbard himself who was directly & madly FAIR GAMING innocent people for the next 18 years until his death.

Example:
1970 Hubbard began Fair Gaming Paulette Cooper.​

Hey that was less than 20 months after Hubbard pretended to "reform". Need another example? Sure. . .

Example: 1968, the very same year as Hubbard promised to "reform". He issued a written Fatwa against a list of people he considered his "enemy" and directed his Sea Org members to murder them[SUP]1 [/SUP]on sight with a .45 handgun.


SECOND PROBLEM: The four (4) question survey they plan to ask a million people is this:
1. What reforms if any, would you like effected in what you may have heard of, or know of, Scientology organizations or policies?

2. What changes in conduct or what conduct would you suggest to Scientologists?

3. What services would you like Scientology to perform in the community?

4. How could Scientology better fit in with the aims and purposes of your area of interest?



[SUP]The problem with that survey is that if even one (1) person cared enough to answer just the first question, the Indie Scientologists would be stuck for eternity. Let's give a sample answer:

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[SUP]WHAT REFORMS, IF ANY, WOULD YOU LIKE EFFECTED IN WHAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF, OR KNOW OF, SCIENTOLOGY ORGANIZATIONS OR POLICIES?

SAMPLE ANSWER: I would like this reform. That Scientology and Scientologists stop lying about the fictional state of Clear and OT. That would mean that Scientology could no longer defraud people with a "Bridge" that does not result in ANY of the (pretended) attained states or abilities that Hubbard conned others to pay for.

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[SUP]If they tried to "effect" or implement that answer, that would be the literal end of Scientology.


HELPFUL TIP TO INDIES: Lose the survey. Just stop lying. The world is sick and weary of Scientology lies. If you want a survey, go on the internet and look at how the world despises, denounces and mocks the fraud of Scientology. That is a real survey, not your cooked up little PR scheme that is doomed to fail. [STRIKE]Wake up fuckers! [/STRIKE] I mean wake up big beings, loyal officers & power terminals! LOL



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[SUP]1[/SUP] On March 6, 1968, Hubbard issued an internal memo titled "RACKET EXPOSED," in which he denounced twelve people (Peter Goodwin, Jim Stathis, Peter Knight, Mrs. Knight, Nora Goodwin, Ron Frost, Margaret Frost, Nina Collingwood, Freda Gaiman, Frank Manley, Mary Ann Taylor, and George Wateridge) as "Enemies of mankind, the planet and all life," and ordered that "Any Sea Org member contacting any of them is to use Auditing Process R2-45."[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] Former Scientologist Bent Corydon wrote that in late 1967 at Saint Hill, he personally received a copy of an order naming four former Scientologists as enemies and "fair game" and ordering any Sea Org member who encountered them to use R2-45.[SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP]​
 
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anonomog

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Aside from the promotional aspect of this initiative--four open ended questions, yikes.
if pigs fly and they get a million responses, they would need months to extract useful information. I can believe that they genuinely want to see the answers, but they will have nothing except a million printouts of wildly different things to present to Davey.
 

J. Swift

Patron with Honors
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LRH:
8. After a 4 weeks’ period has elapsed since the mailing of the Questionnaire, the summaries and Questionnaires are to be mailed to the Public Exec Sec WW, who will check them over and then mail them to the Sea Org.

David Miscavige's attorney Lamont Jefferson:

Plaintiff asserts that Mr. Miscavige exercised control because he leads the Sea Organization, a religious order within Scientology. But the “Sea Org” is not a corporate entity; it has no physical or legal existence. It is not incorporated or established pursuant to legal formalities. It has no constitution, charter or bylaws, and no formal or informal ecclesiastical, corporate, or other management structure. It has no directors, officers, managing agents, or other executives; no employees, staff members, or volunteers; no income; no disbursements, no bank accounts or other assets; no liabilities; no stationery; no office, home, address, or telephone number. It does not create or maintain any financial, personnel, or other records. It can neither give nor receive orders because it has no one to either give or receive them or to carry them out. It cannot sue or be sued. The evidence Mrs. Rathbun has submitted fails to establish a prima facie basis for an alter ego finding, because none of it involves the defendants’ purported contacts relating to this suit, nor does any of it speak to the organizations’ current practices.
ref: http://tonyortega.org/2015/05/22/do...nsespecting-in-a-series-of-binding-contracts/

1. Because the Sea Org does not legally exist -- and most certainly does not have a mailbox of any kind -- to whom will M2 mail the 1,000,000 survey results?

2. Because the Church of Scientology International is only a licensee of RTC, CSI in and of itself cannot effect any changes whatsoever to the Tech.

3. The sole ecclesiastical authority, and indeed the global ecclesiastical leader of the Scientology religion, is COB RTC David Miscavige. Therefore, M2 would, technically speaking, need to address all survey results to Mr. Miscavige in his capacity as COB RTC.

4. As Mr. Miscavige is charged with the defense of the Scientology religion -- and this as we all witnessed in COB's masterfully executed Squirrel Busters Operation -- Mr. Miscavige would likely be violently opposed to unsolicited survey results from a group not formally affiliated with, nor licensed by, any church in the international ecclesiastical hierarchy of Scientology churches.

5. As it is a "no-brainer"to predict that M2's survey results will overwhelmingly identify David Miscavige as the brutal criminal SP at fault for all PT bad PR, this would only reinforce Mr. Miscavige's opposition to receiving unsolicited survey results. One cannot really expect this fellow Miscavige to be rational in any event.

6. The survey results will include J&D that will go right over M2's head.

7. Despite the aforementioned obstacles, in his benevolence Mr. Hubbard always left the door open a crack. Thus, M2 would have as its only terminal the IJC. It is likely that, upon completing steps A-E and going back on Church lines, M2 could submit survey results. Whereupon, M2 would immediately be re-declared.
 
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HelluvaHoax!

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Because the Sea Org does not legally exist -- and most certainly does not have a mailbox of any kind -- to whom will M2 mail the 1,000,000 survey results?



I am pretty sure you can just address it to "Uplines c/o The North Pole", the location where all the most uptone, humanitarian OTs live.
 

WildKat

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SAMPLE ANSWER: I would like this reform: That Scientology and Scientologists stop lying about the fictional state of Clear and OT. That would mean that Scientology could no longer defraud people with a "Bridge" that does not result in ANY of the (pretended) attained states or abilities that Hubbard conned others to pay for.

TRUTH! As usual, you nailed it.

Thanks HH, that says it ALL! (Or at least that says all that I would care to say!)
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
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Let me know when they've tabulated the millionth reply, it would make interesting reading, though I doubt anyone of us would live that long. Do they know that a million is quite a few?
 

SPsince83

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Let me know when they've tabulated the millionth reply, it would make interesting reading, though I doubt anyone of us would live that long. Do they know that a million is quite a few?

I just postulated the millionth response and with my super-duper Cheerioatee(tm) Level 666 powerz it is GUARANTEED. They may start tabulating now.:coolwink:
 

Knows

Gold Meritorious Patron
Free Zone Survey - Milestone "SCREWS"

A Friend sent this:

From Milestone Two's Website:

Scientology, as a relatively new philosophy, has been in the news.
Whilst you cannot always believe what you hear in the media:unsure:, issues have been raised with the Church’s current operation:eyeroll:, and its impact on those within and around it.

We desire to establish a Code of Reform for the Church; and we request your help in establishing this Code.:biggrin:

Whether you have never been a Scientologist, or have had some involvement (in the past or currently), we are looking to get your views on what reforms and conduct changes are needed by the Church of Scientology.:smack:



We are looking for at least one million responses :lol:to our survey – and the results will then be presented, publicly, to the Church of Scientology, with a demand for action.:roflmao:

We need to know your concerns about Church activities and programs, and what you feel needs resolution.

Please answer our anonymous, four question survey by clicking this link.
And please do forward this page to friends, family and networks, so others can also add their voice.


"Oh those crazy kids at Milestone 2 done gone and started a new fangled site:

http://scientologyneedsreform.org/

They've got an anonymous survey linked from that page with some fun questions:

1. What reforms if any, would you like effected in what you may have heard of, or know of, Scientology organizations or policies?

Burn them all and piss on the ashes.

2. What changes in conduct or what conduct would you suggest to Scientologists?

Stop practicing Scientology.

3. What services would you like Scientology to perform in the community?

Dig its own grave, jump in and die already.

4. How could Scientology better fit in with the aims and purposes of your area of interest?

Die off completely and never return.

Do you think they would listen to these answers or would they inhibit my ability to speak freely? Go over there and take the survey folks. Can't hurt!

Scientology's Free Zone: Milestone Two!

Hip Hip Hooray!!:p
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oneonewasaracecar

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Can anyone refresh my memory, what is the tech for processing knowledge reports from squirels and SPs?
 

Dave B.

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Re: Free Zone Survey - Milestone "SCREWS"

Some things never seem to change.

"Pope Leo X was born Giovanni de Medici in 1475 and raised in Italy's most culturally sophisticated city, Florence, as part of the prestigious de' Medici family, renowned patrons of the arts, benefactors of scholarship, and masters of political intrigue.

He became one of the most extravagant of all Popes, more a patron of the arts as his parents were than a significant ecclesiastical figure. He was a skilful administrator, and became Pope at the age of 37 in 1513.

Immediately Leo demonstrated his appreciation of art by initiating a massive building project to beautify the Vatican. The pomp and extravagance of his court was an indirect cause of the Reformation because to acquire the enormous sums of money for renovation, he encouraged the sale of "Indulgences," which was a promise of relief from eternal penalties.

In Germany this practice aroused the ire of Martin Luther, a humble monk, who issued ninety- five arguments for church reform.

Luther wrote in his 95 Theses, his criticism of the Church - "why doesn't the Pope build the basilica of St Peter's out of his own money?".

German nobles saw an opportunity to cut off currency flowing to Rome that was very much needed at home, so they backed Luther's cause. In 1520, Leo issued the papal bull Exsurge Domine demanding Luther retract 41 of his 95 theses, and after Luther's refusal, excommunicated him.

Some historians believe that Leo never really took Luther's movement or his followers seriously, even until the time of his death in 1521. They also contend that if he had been more interested in religion than artwork, the Reformation may never have happened.

Pope Leo X was also the Patron of the artist Raphael and granted King Henry VIII of England the title 'Defender of the Faith'. He was the last pope to look at the papacy as a temporal monarchy."



At least Leo X was a patron of the arts. $cientology's "Pope" is more of a Dogs Playing Poker on velvet kinda guy.
 
M

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Another thread merge.
Posters, please check for an already existing thread (on a given subject) before starting a new thread.
Please. :begging:
 

Knows

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Re: Free Zone Survey - Milestone "SCREWS"

Can anyone refresh my memory, what is the tech for processing knowledge reports from squirels and SPs?

Exactly! Scientologist's IN can't do one damn thing about the crimes committed daily in the cult.

These Milestoner's need to take another hit off that....:bong::bong::bong::bong::bong: :yes:
 

Veda

Sponsor
Re: Independent Scientology Milestone Two reform website; Republishes LRH reform surv

Independent Scientology Milestone Two republishes LRH reform survey and creates reform website.

New Milestone Two Scientology Reform website: Scientology Needs Reform

http://scientologyneedsreform.org/

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Milestone Two: In a gentle way you can shake the world

https://milestonetwo.wordpress.com/2015/06/14/in-a-gentle-way-you-can-shake-the-world/

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Posted by Lana M.

June 14, 2015

by Milestone Two crew

In August of 1968, L.Ron Hubbard issued an international questionnaire from Scientology organizations.

Hundreds of thousands of surveys were sent out

-snip-

REFORM CODE
19. HCO Pol Aug 26,1968 Security Checks Abolished
20. HCO Pol Oct 21, 1968 Cancellation of Fair Game
21. HCO Pol Nov 15, 1968 Disconnection Cancelled

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Fair Game, Disconnection, and Security Checking were never discontinued, nor were SP Declares for that matter.

So silly.


Randomly located on the Internet, here's Eileen Vernjack's SP Declare from 1972:


sp-declare-eileen-vernjack.jpg

"...they cannot be granted the rights and beingness ordinarily accorded rational beings..."
 

phenomanon

Canyon
Re: Free Zone Survey - Milestone "SCREWS"

Exactly! Scientologist's IN can't do one damn thing about the crimes committed daily in the cult.

These Milestoner's need to take another hit off that....:bong::bong::bong::bong::bong: :yes:

I think if they were hitting on anything good in their pipe, they wouldn't be interested in reforming COS.
They'd have other fish to fry. Like their own lives. Their own environs, their own hobbies, their own goals. Their families. " Clearing the planet" when you don't communicate with anyone who doesn't follow your direction is too stoopid to even credit with a reply. I would not bother myself with any of you loonies, don't know why I posted this.
 
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