Initiation of the final collapse sequence

[GoNuclear]

I would say that most of the people reading this would agree that while Cof$ has been in a steady decline since about 1990, the arrival of Anonymous on the scene in 2008 has been a factor in dramatically hastening the overall Cof$ stat crash. There have been numerous people who were seriously on the inside of the cult to go public, there's the Mike and Marty show, the Anderson Cooper interviews, the inquiry in Australia, the SP Times Truth Rundown series, etc. In all of this, I would guess that many of you are wondering how the final collapse will occur. I believe I have the answer on how to initiate that.

As I see it, Cof$ has, amongst all of its other problems, two major financial liabilities. First, there is the issue of services paid for but not yet taken. The faithful flock have been redged within an inch of their lives now for years to the point where there is loads of cash on account for services not yet delivered, and it is questionable, considering all of the other emphasis AWAY from delivery of auditing and training, if these services ever CAN be delivered. I understand that one of the means of internally abating that is to use the redges to convert the funds on account for auditing and training over to IAS donations, I'm sure that some of you have horror stories about that. Nevertheless, pre-paid services is a liability in that people can obtain a refund.

Next, there is the issue of back pay ... still being adjudicated, but, in the event of a favorable ruling, there is the possibility of massive damages of bringing back pay for lots of staff up to minimum wages.

What needs to be created in the minds of public ... services will never be delivered, get your refund now before it is too late or you will be left holding the bag.

What needs to be created in the minds of staff ... file your claim now or it will be too late, if you do not file your claim for back pay now you will be left holding the bag.

These can easily become self fullfilling prophecies if believed by enough people, causing a panic and final collapse as nobody wants to be the last guy out the door!

I believe that what needs to be created are some flyers to that effect to pass out to public and staff Scilons still in. I have some ideas, PM me.

Pete

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

I would say that most of the people reading this would agree that while Cof$ has been in a steady decline since about 1990, the arrival of Anonymous on the scene in 2008 has been a factor in dramatically hastening the overall Cof$ stat crash. There have been numerous people who were seriously on the inside of the cult to go public, there's the Mike and Marty show, the Anderson Cooper interviews, the inquiry in Australia, the SP Times Truth Rundown series, etc. In all of this, I would guess that many of you are wondering how the final collapse will occur. I believe I have the answer on how to initiate that.

As I see it, Cof$ has, amongst all of its other problems, two major financial liabilities. First, there is the issue of services paid for but not yet taken. The faithful flock have been redged within an inch of their lives now for years to the point where there is loads of cash on account for services not yet delivered, and it is questionable, considering all of the other emphasis AWAY from delivery of auditing and training, if these services ever CAN be delivered. I understand that one of the means of internally abating that is to use the redges to convert the funds on account for auditing and training over to IAS donations, I'm sure that some of you have horror stories about that. Nevertheless, pre-paid services is a liability in that people can obtain a refund.

Next, there is the issue of back pay ... still being adjudicated, but, in the event of a favorable ruling, there is the possibility of massive damages of bringing back pay for lots of staff up to minimum wages.

What needs to be created in the minds of public ... services will never be delivered, get your refund now before it is too late or you will be left holding the bag.

What needs to be created in the minds of staff ... file your claim now or it will be too late, if you do not file your claim for back pay now you will be left holding the bag.

These can easily become self fullfilling prophecies if believed by enough people, causing a panic and final collapse as nobody wants to be the last guy out the door!

I believe that what needs to be created are some flyers to that effect to pass out to public and staff Scilons still in. I have some ideas, PM me.

Pete

Very smart idea!

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[Lurker5]

Thumbs Up

Good ideas

 

[Freeminds]

Agreed, but...

Valid points. How do you propose to get the message across to the public and staff, respectively?

 

[Sign of Success]

Valid points. How do you propose to get the message across to the public and staff, respectively?

Right, not to mention the fact that neither of them are interested in that message.

 

[SignPost]

A sign saying:

WHO'S LEFT
TO AUDIT
YOU?

Or something along those lines.

Thinking...

 

[GoNuclear]

How to ...

Valid points. How do you propose to get the message across to the public and staff, respectively?

My very simple idea is to pass out 6 panel flyers. Panel 1 ... big letters,
THE WAR IS OVER! Some simple line drawn graphics of baloons and/or fireworks. Panel 2 ... a few simple sentences, simple line drawn graphic of a public person, obviously by the look on his face and slumped shoulders, extremely oppressed by the relentless hounding for donations, part of the graphic is a phone ringing off the hook. Panel 3 ... more of the same, only for a staffer. Panel 4 ... idea taken from a youtube video showing deserted or non existent missions and orgs ... a boarded up building, obviously empty, with references to the empty locations, i.e., a URL or several URL's to see evidence on the web that its really all over for Cof$. Panel 5 ... caricature of DM and his girl friend, not his wife, as Adolph and Ava in the bunker, ready to take poison and shoot themselves ... in writing ... "At least Adolph and Ava had the decency to get married at the end!" With another sentence, smaller type ... "Who will be left to deliver services?" Panel 6 ... top half is a stampede for the door at a crowded theatre, slogan is "Don't wait, get your refund while you still can!" and bottom half of panel 6 is individual group contact info, to direct clams where they can get help in obtaining refunds.

The flyer can be done up as a series of picket signs as well. The internet can be used. Other people can think of other methods that I couldn't possibly imagine due to faulty imagination or something, so use your heads, the ones on your shoulders, get creative, and share your ideas, someone is bound to come up with something ... or a combination of different methods might work as well.

Pete

 

[Sign of Success]

I like the idea of fireworks.

 

[freethinker]

Once when I was being reged by the IAS I asked the reg if I could use money on account. She said that that was not allowed and the IAS cannot get funds from money on account for services. With what I know now this makes sense. The IAS is DM's cash fund for whatever he needs. Money you paid for services was spent within a week after you paid it, even if oyu didn't start the service. DM wants cash now and he has a system for laundering that money through the IAS. To debit off of account involves paperwork and visibility as well as the orgs have to remake those funds and keep up with now finances. That's my theory on why. That I was told by the reg it couldn't be done was a fact but rules can change. They do all the time in the C of M.

I understand that one of the means of internally abating that is to use the redges to convert the funds on account for auditing and training over to IAS donations, I'm sure that some of you have horror stories about that. Nevertheless, pre-paid services is a liability in that people can obtain a refund.
What needs to be created in the minds of public ... services will never be delivered, get your refund now before it is too late or you will be left holding the bag.

What needs to be created in the minds of staff ... file your claim now or it will be too late, if you do not file your claim for back pay now you will be left holding the bag.

These can easily become self fullfilling prophecies if believed by enough people, causing a panic and final collapse as nobody wants to be the last guy out the door!

I believe that what needs to be created are some flyers to that effect to pass out to public and staff Scilons still in. I have some ideas, PM me.

Pete

 

[renegade]

The IAS and the orgs finances are seperate.

If you debit your account for Basics, DM will get some of the profits flowed back to him thru the sale.

 

[GoNuclear]

IAS vs fixed donations

If a redge can't convert funds on account for services over to IAS, that is even better. If there is a way of getting back any funds donated to IAS, even better.

My point here is simply this: It is said you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre, but you most certainly can, if you know it to be burning. That is the point ... yelling fire when we know that the building is on fire, to allow people to exit in a timely fashioned. If there truely is a fire, its not the fault of the person who screams "FIRE!" that some folk get trampled going for the exit.
In this case, we are actually helping people by creating a stampede ... get everyone out before they break out the Coolaide.

Pete

 

[programmer_guy]

GoNuclear,

Yes, I too have wondered just what the report would be if the CofS had outside (non-CofS) financial auditors audit their financial records... just like wog businesses do very year. (Or do they do this and I just haven't read about it?)

I wonder what the "balance sheet" would reveal. Just how much undelivered services have they racked-up? This could definitely be a huge financial liability.

 

[AnonyMary]

Good idea

 

[Dulloldfart]

I wonder what the "balance sheet" would reveal. Just how much undelivered services have they racked-up? This could definitely be a huge financial liability.

This figure isn't a secret. Unless they changed it, it's one of the stats an org reports each week. "Advance Payments Unused" or "Pre-Payments Unused" or something like that. The INCOMM computer system, that I used every day at the HGB, had available Int stats 24/7, for anyone with a logon (pretty much anyone in the building). By Int stats I mean all the service orgs, including FSO and FSSO, not Gold or RTC.

So any recent defector from that level or above might remember. I vaguely remember the figure being very roughly around $400 million 15 years ago.

Paul

 

[degraded being]

The end is nigh..
In the end ....all the "spiritual stuff" will be nought,
All the "ethical" stuff will be nought,
All the "saving the planet" stuff will be nought,
All the "beingness' and "ability" and "perceptions" will be nought,
All the "amazing tech" will be nought,
All the "amazing 3rd Dynamic policy" will be nought,
All the silly sailors uniforms games will be nought,
All the status pimping and slutting will be nought,

Just tell those rich fuckers with more money than sense that they ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR MONEY (ALL OF IT)
Then you'll see "speed of particle flow".

 

[GoNuclear]

what is needed and wanted ...

The end is nigh..
In the end ....all the "spiritual stuff" will be nought,
All the "ethical" stuff will be nought,
All the "saving the planet" stuff will be nought,
All the "beingness' and "ability" and "perceptions" will be nought,
All the "amazing tech" will be nought,
All the "amazing 3rd Dynamic policy" will be nought,
All the silly sailors uniforms games will be nought,
All the status pimping and slutting will be nought,

Just tell those rich fuckers with more money than sense that they ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR MONEY (ALL OF IT)
Then you'll see "speed of particle flow".

What is needed and wanted here, especially from those who have spent substantial time on the inside, are some suggestions regarding the means on how to promote to public clams that they are at risk for losing all funds on account with Cof$ ... that Cof$ will never be able to deliver services as promised and/or a refund of funds on account unless prompt action is taken.

Even if all public with paid for auditing demands their audting NOW and Cof$ is in no position to deliver, that alone can cause major headaches.

I will present this as a hypothetical, since there may be legal issues involved here ... supposing a defecting staffer was to bring a copy of a list of public clams with funds on account, and a copy of the central files mailing list against which to check those names and addresses?

In other words ... supposing every public clam with a potential claim was to be contacted? There would be no need for any pressure above and beyond the actual facts, which would undoubtedly "create an urgency in the mind of the buyer".

There are really just a small handful of things needed to make this work:

1) An up to date list of public clams with money on account with Cof$ for services not yet deliverered, in particular auditing

2) All the facts regarding what is going on with departures, the freezone, shrinking of Cof$, DM related issues such as beatings and sequestering of staff and the status of Shelly Miscavige, overall services paid for but not yet delivered versus the deliverability of services at this point considering who and how many competent auditors left, and the possibility of a run on funds via refund requests, etc.

3) An effective direct mail presentation

4) Effective assistance in obtaining a refund that is no more than a phone call or mouse click away, available for free, donations accepted to cover expenses.

Pete

 

[IMMORTAL]

I would say that most of the people reading this would agree that while Cof$ has been in a steady decline since about 1990, the arrival of Anonymous on the scene in 2008 has been a factor in dramatically hastening the overall Cof$ stat crash. There have been numerous people who were seriously on the inside of the cult to go public, there's the Mike and Marty show, the Anderson Cooper interviews, the inquiry in Australia, the SP Times Truth Rundown series, etc. In all of this, I would guess that many of you are wondering how the final collapse will occur. I believe I have the answer on how to initiate that.

As I see it, Cof$ has, amongst all of its other problems, two major financial liabilities. First, there is the issue of services paid for but not yet taken. The faithful flock have been redged within an inch of their lives now for years to the point where there is loads of cash on account for services not yet delivered, and it is questionable, considering all of the other emphasis AWAY from delivery of auditing and training, if these services ever CAN be delivered. I understand that one of the means of internally abating that is to use the redges to convert the funds on account for auditing and training over to IAS donations, I'm sure that some of you have horror stories about that. Nevertheless, pre-paid services is a liability in that people can obtain a refund.

Next, there is the issue of back pay ... still being adjudicated, but, in the event of a favorable ruling, there is the possibility of massive damages of bringing back pay for lots of staff up to minimum wages.

What needs to be created in the minds of public ... services will never be delivered, get your refund now before it is too late or you will be left holding the bag.

What needs to be created in the minds of staff ... file your claim now or it will be too late, if you do not file your claim for back pay now you will be left holding the bag.

These can easily become self fullfilling prophecies if believed by enough people, causing a panic and final collapse as nobody wants to be the last guy out the door!

I believe that what needs to be created are some flyers to that effect to pass out to public and staff Scilons still in. I have some ideas, PM me.

Pete

Pete, I REALLY like the name of this thread! Every time I see it I get very excited. In my mind and heart it reads like this, "Initiation of the final destruct sequence"...... Soooo, cool!

All of the ideas you've presented here on this thread are very good. I have nothing to add to those, but wanted to tell you how much I liked the name of the thread and the entire idea of this!

 

[uniquemand]

Sounds like a bank run.

 

[Zinjifar]

Sounds like a bank run.

Minus FDIC and negative consequences.

Zinj

 

[GoNuclear]

exactly

Sounds like a bank run.

That is exactly the point, create a run on the bank, so to speak. Those are coming, too, in the WOG world. There are those that parrot the thought stopping line "CONSPIRACY THEORY!" everytime mention is made of how and why bank runs are inevitable. But screaming "CONSPIRACY THEORY!" doesn't change the nature of the current monetary system, i.e., fractional reserve banking, and how it tends to function as a pyramid con game. That a major collapse is coming is another great reason for people to pull funds off account with Cof$. They will need those funds to purchase storable foods, some rural land, etc.

Setting all that aside ... some of the folks on here have been slapping me on the back for having an idea here as to how to get the job done. Yeah, we can brainstorm further, that's a great thing, but we also need to roll up our sleeves and get the job done. I bring to the table some creativity and out of the box thinking, but here is what I need:

1) Someone who can do some simple illustrations, a sketch artist/cartoonist. We are not talking about elaborate work here, just some very simple work that will immediately convey an idea without much effort spent in reading

2) Someone who can work with a program such as Pagemaker and who has access to the software. The idea is to put together some flyers in .pdf format, in one of those files that allows an individual to fill out some unique information. In this way, on the back panel of a 6 panel flyer, contact info can be printed up. Anons and ex's can pass these out to clams in front of orgs or to clams running stress test tables, etc.

3) Someone who is extremely knowledgeable on what is going on within Cof$
4) Someone to work with me on putting together a refund expediting package to be offered on computer DVD or CD
5) Someone to work with me on a direct mail project.

So far one person has come forth with the idea of helping out by spreading the idea over to WWP, who called the concept "Operation Run on the Bank". I believe that we can finish of Cof$ in this fashion or at least put a very serious dent in their operations, but that means actually doing the work.

Pete