Is David Miscavige Scientology's Saint Peter?

[Royal Prince Xenu]

Indeed there is no Christ. Zeitgeist rules, though the part 2 has some sauced solutions postulated, ha.

Also check out the documentary "History of the Devil", you'll find out there is no Devil either! All invention by the Christians to invalidate paganism.

Christ means "annointed". It is not a surname. If LRH had demonstrated genuine altruistic OT abilities he would have earned the title "Christ", but he didn't display any of these qualities and earned the title "charlatan".

Zeitgeist is just a rehash of Nazi propaganda from the 1930s and updated to fit today's circumstances.

The Anabaptist Jacques

Followed up below:

I though you’d never ask!

Nazi propaganda had two sides to it. The lies which the Nazis told and their method of convincing people that their lies were true.

The information in this Zeitgeist contains both Nazi propaganda and Nazi style of propaganda. The section on the Federal Reserve mostly contains data which comes directly from Hitler and his minister of propaganda Joseph Goebbels. I will cover the specifics in a moment. But don’t be surprised that many people fall for this stuff even today....

The section on September 11th is Nazi style propaganda very effectively applied to those events too.

Nazi propaganda is based on the theory of “The Big Lie.” As Hitler said, and I am paraphrasing him, if you tell a big lie often enough, over and over, people will believe it. The method is this: You tell a big lie, over and over. You repeat it enough in order to get people to take it as fact. You back it up with bits of isolated data to support your accusation, and you are careful to exclude or suppress any data which is contrary.
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There are lots of things wrong with the official story connected with September 11th. But by using enough half-truths, that is, pointing out the inconsistencies, people will tend to believe the Nazis when they say what the causes of the inconsistencies are.
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The Anabaptist Jacques

Firsly I have cut all the "Jew" related stuff. That a significant number of "Jews" are manipulating the world economy and politics does not condemn an entire race. That's like blaming me for the East India Company and the Opium Wars.

I was heavily involved in the 9/11 truth movmeent up to the release of Loose Change: Final Cut. It points out the exact same thing, if you tell a big lie often enough, over and over, people will believe it. The official 9/11 story, commonly referred to as the OCT (Official Consipiracy Theory), pioints out that if you are aiming at the side of a barn, there are so many holes in it already, that we're still trying to work out what is holding any part of the barn up. The OCT is the big lie being repeated to the masses over and over again. (NAZI propaganda wonders vaguely through one;s mind looking for something to connect with.)

The point of the 9/11 truth movement is not to say this is what happened. It can't because there is insufficient information. It's purpose is to keep exposing the inconsistencies (but rejecting absurd theories as to how these came about--Directed Energy Weapons? Please ! If that were true Iraq would be a glass car park by now.) and blatant hypocrisy in the OCT, to keep pressure on the relevant bodies (NIST etc.) to get them to release all the information so that the true events can be exposed. What you are saying cannot be what happened. We want the truth of the matter.

If is the same phenomenon that should have started inside Scn:

Ask questions, demand answers!​

But for those of us who got conned by Scn, we accepted what were told as absolute and dared not question anything.

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

I have seen a number of posts on various critical forums - more on other forums but also on this one- pressure people and (try to) tell them what to think. Some of the posts can only be described as highly personalized and intimidative. Like telling them they "are irresponsible and destructive to the well being of children" , that they're sociopaths, that they have an agenda, that they're liars, that they have no right to believe what they do, that they have no conscience. Or other posts and PMs telling them they are bad people or that this or that contributor is saying that about them. It's intimidation. I didn't say it was identical to what the cult is doing. Had I thought so, I'd have said so. But I didn't, cuz it's not. But that doesn't change the fact that the intimidation does occur.

Okay, I get that. If I read you right you are suggesting that one can enforce an idea by communicating with force rather than just holding one's ideas forcefully. Well, I've definitely seen that--I might be guilty of that myself sometimes. And I guess intimidation can be a form of enforcement for sure.

The Anabpatist Jacques

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

Christ means "annointed". It is not a surname. If LRH had demonstrated genuine altruistic OT abilities he would have earned the title "Christ", but he didn't display any of these qualities and earned the title "charlatan".



Followed up below:



Firsly I have cut all the "Jew" related stuff. That a significant number of "Jews" are manipulating the world economy and politics does not condemn an entire race. That's like blaming me for the East India Company and the Opium Wars.

I was heavily involved in the 9/11 truth movmeent up to the release of Loose Change: Final Cut. It points out the exact same thing, if you tell a big lie often enough, over and over, people will believe it. The official 9/11 story, commonly referred to as the OCT (Official Consipiracy Theory), pioints out that if you are aiming at the side of a barn, there are so many holes in it already, that we're still trying to work out what is holding any part of the barn up. The OCT is the big lie being repeated to the masses over and over again. (NAZI propaganda wonders vaguely through one;s mind looking for something to connect with.)

The point of the 9/11 truth movement is not to say this is what happened. It can't because there is insufficient information. It's purpose is to keep exposing the inconsistencies (but rejecting absurd theories as to how these came about--Directed Energy Weapons? Please ! If that were true Iraq would be a glass car park by now.) and blatant hypocrisy in the OCT, to keep pressure on the relevant bodies (NIST etc.) to get them to release all the information so that the true events can be exposed. What you are saying cannot be what happened. We want the truth of the matter.

If is the same phenomenon that should have started inside Scn:

Ask questions, demand answers!​

But for those of us who got conned by Scn, we accepted what were told as absolute and dared not question anything.

But this is not what Zeitgeist is about. Zeitgeist is as much the offical line of the Nazis just as the US government has an official line about 9/11. One can point out the inconsistencies with the official 9/11 line without spending two hours repeating the Nazi worldview and propaganda. What's up with that? If anything, Zeitgeist discredits those who question the validity of the official 9/11 line.

The Anabaptist Jacuqes

 

[Royal Prince Xenu]

But this is not what Zeitgeist is about. Zeitgeist is as much the offical line of the Nazis just as the US government has an official line about 9/11. One can point out the inconsistencies with the official 9/11 line without spending two hours repeating the Nazi worldview and propaganda. What's up with that? If anything, Zeitgeist discredits those who question the validity of the official 9/11 line.

The Anabaptist Jacuqes

I have to disagree. The most compelling piece of footage in the 9/11 segment is William Rodriguez. He was a "lowly" janitor and to the best of everyone's knowledge the very last person to get out of the first tower collapse alive. He talks about being in the fire stairs, and hearing explosions from the basement of the building before the impact of the plane. He talks about people coming out of elevators "on fire" with their skin hanging off before the impact of the plane. There are witness accounts of basement machine shops, where the equipment was completely absent (vaporized?) and molten metal all over the floors. The only way I know how to make a five-head Heidelberg printing press disappear I learned from David Copperfield.

Why was the lobby of the second tower blown out into the streets before the impact of the plane?

I spent a great deal of time behind the scenes as a non-u.s. person contributing logic and refuting insanity and much of the input was for the purpose of making sure that Loose Change: Final Cut was bullet-proof.

9/11 proved one thing. If you want planes and buildings that are indestructible, make them out of passport paper.

Like JFK, we may never know what really happened, but when the deaths of 3,000 innocent American citizens is used by a madman as an excuse to slaughter 3/4 million innocent Iraqi citizens, we know there is something seriously wrong in the world, and the games played by LRH and DM pale into insignificance.

I have done my bit for 9/11 truth. Now let's get rid of this festering pustule known as Co$.

 

[uniquemand]

I still don't get why TAJ thinks Zeitgeist is Nazi line propaganda. I completely disagree. In fact, it points out the Nazi style propaganda, and specifically to the False Flag handling of populations used by the Bush Administration, etc. I also felt that the discussion of personal potential, and how we are bombarded with signals telling us we are only a part of a larger machine was spot-on.

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

I still don't get why TAJ thinks Zeitgeist is Nazi line propaganda. I completely disagree. In fact, it points out the Nazi style propaganda, and specifically to the False Flag handling of populations used by the Bush Administration, etc. I also felt that the discussion of personal potential, and how we are bombarded with signals telling us we are only a part of a larger machine was spot-on.

Because the premise, theimplied enemies, and religious theory is almost verbatum from the Nazi line of the 1930s. The sequence of authorship I mentioned I think clearly makes the point.
Sure Bush used 9/11 as a PR excuse to invade Iraq. Sure he is crazy. But that doesn't mean he blew up the towers. I know somone who moved to England when Kennedy was assasinated. That doesn't mean he was behind the assassination.
The whole of Zeitgeist, even the name as I covered in my post, is from Nazi propaganda.

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[uniquemand]

Ahh, I should have clarified: I didn't find your post convincing. Zeitgeist just means spirit of the times. It's also the name of a bar in San Francisco: does that make it's owners Nazis? Zeitgeist's discussion of bankers is only similar to the Nazi line if you consider bankers to be a euphemism for Jews, which I don't.

I don't consider Zeitgeist Nazi propaganda, or even similar. Exactly the opposite, actually.

 

[Pascal]

Saaaatan!!! Witch!!! Burn!!! aaaaargh...

Because the premise, theimplied enemies, and religious theory is almost verbatum from the Nazi line of the 1930s. The sequence of authorship I mentioned I think clearly makes the point.
Sure Bush used 9/11 as a PR excuse to invade Iraq. Sure he is crazy. But that doesn't mean he blew up the towers. I know somone who moved to England when Kennedy was assasinated. That doesn't mean he was behind the assassination.
The whole of Zeitgeist, even the name as I covered in my post, is from Nazi propaganda.

The Anabaptist Jacques

Zeitgeist is from Hegel the philosopher, he popularised the term. You seem to have a big A=A=A=A thing going on with the Nazi party. Are you Jewish? Maybe you were a Nazi somewhere on the track?

Bush blew up the towers, it's obvious in the cover-ups and missing data from the "official" report of 9/11. It was probably done with Israel, as using "Qui Bono" you realise Israel has most to win from a change in Iraq (the homeland of Jews) and Afghanistan (Gas gateway for Bush's buddies and Israeli energy woes).

To use the "Nazis" as a service facsimile rhetorical trick to downplay Zeitgeist is just childish and betrays far too much your location on the tone scale, like having your fly wide open.

 

[uniquemand]

Having your fly open is now part of the Tone Scale? Where is it, boredom?

I think it's pretty obvious that Bush and the energy companies had the most to gain from the invasion of Iraq, as well as the arms dealers and the banks that finance them.

However, I don't think it's kosher to start badgering TAJ about being Jewish based on his posts. Breath.

 

[Pascal]

The chosen people of God VS NAZI party = Same shit, ie, RACISM

Having your fly open is now part of the Tone Scale? Where is it, boredom?

I think it's pretty obvious that Bush and the energy companies had the most to gain from the invasion of Iraq, as well as the arms dealers and the banks that finance them.

However, I don't think it's kosher to start badgering TAJ about being Jewish based on his posts. Breath.

He's too emotional and irrational about the whole thing. And I'm sick of Jewish propaganda. Judaism is extremely racist and that is why they were victimized during history. Being politically correct is out anyways.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Okay, I get that. If I read you right you are suggesting that one can enforce an idea by communicating with force rather than just holding one's ideas forcefully. Well, I've definitely seen that--I might be guilty of that myself sometimes. And I guess intimidation can be a form of enforcement for sure.

The Anabpatist Jacques

Sure. Not all abusive, bullying or even, in some cases, illegal- behavior is physical.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Bush blew up the towers? Are you kidding?

 

[uniquemand]

Bush didn't blow up the towers in the same way that the military didn't execute Kennedy.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Bush didn't blow up the towers in the same way that the military didn't execute Kennedy.

I doubt very much that the military executed Kennedy. I think it was probably the mafia.

 

[uniquemand]

Exactly.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

The mafia. Not the government. Not the military. The MAFIA. Gawd.

 

[uniquemand]

Yes. You've got it exactly.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

*plonk*

 

[Pascal]

Ahh blindness is bliss.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Ahh blindness is bliss.

Huh?