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I don't know and never knew Greg. I don't find himn charming. The Scientologists who I used to think of as charming now seem ridiculously pathetic.
I changed.
I don't know and never knew Greg. I don't find himn charming. The Scientologists who I used to think of as charming now seem ridiculously pathetic.
I changed.
Another Goood one, HH!
Oh hey, does anybody got a pic of Greg they could post here?
I prefer not to judge whether Greg Wilhere is "evil" or not, although I do not blame others who apply that label to him. I never met him.
As I read BFG's book, when I came to the part where Greg called Marc to tell him that Claire had been recovered, I felt like I had been kicked hard in the stomach, even though I knew that Claire was out and with Marc. One can only guess how Marc must have felt at that instant. That act was indeed evil.
I dont think they do so much because the viewpoint when you are "in" is sooooo different from when you are out. its like two different planets with two totally different cultures.I felt the same... I also knew Claire was out but reading this I was gutted for Marc and distressed for Claire.
The lies and deception used by Wilhere are just so typical and well drilled in..... it's sad to think an individual has become so degraded to treat others in this way.
Although, I often wonder if at a quiet moment the Greg Wilheres, other SO members and staff of this religion, contemplate what they have said or done to others and feel maybe a pang of guilt or upset by these actions.
My own daughter at Flag ... does she wonder about what has occurred in relation to disconnection when she has a quiet moment of reflection???
I dont think they do so much because the viewpoint when you are "in" is sooooo different from when you are out. its like two different planets with two totally different cultures.
Maybe greg wilhere is just being a scientologist in his mind. just "making it go right" and applying "dont be afraid to hurt someone in a just cause!!". who knows?
I mean 30 plus years in the SO, how many times has all that shit been drilled into him and made to hit home?? You can lose "yourself" in there for sure.:confused2:
Man is basically good. LRH said so.
How about "Man is basically evil".
Seems just as true to me. World history is evidence.
I felt the same... I also knew Claire was out but reading this I was gutted for Marc and distressed for Claire.
The lies and deception used by Wilhere are just so typical and well drilled in..... it's sad to think an individual has become so degraded to treat others in this way.
Although, I often wonder if at a quiet moment the Greg Wilheres, other SO members and staff of this religion, contemplate what they have said or done to others and feel maybe a pang of guilt or upset by these actions.
My own daughter at Flag ... does she wonder about what has occurred in relation to disconnection when she has a quiet moment of reflection???
Sorry it's not good news Uncle Sam, but I heard a couple of weeks ago from a mate of mine who knew them all well, that Sandy did pass away around a year and a half ago, as a result of the MS.If anyone as news of Greg's first wife-Sandy Stevens Wilhere--please post it on this thread. Thanks.
Forty years ago-Greg-myself and several other guys--were in college and were very good friends--then along came the "cult"---I met and was friendly with Greg's brother Hugh [OSA] and his sister Kathy [out] and also his parents[never in].
Out of the 4 guys--all our still IN with myself being the lone exception of being - so very "out".
Greg called me once in 1982 to tell me - that I was not "expelled" and was "ok" to be on lines--that is all. I have heard from several others who know him that he enjoyed a great rep as a tech terminal and as a person.
What happened to Greg by his own making is so fucking sad-we all have decisions and choices to make in life-some of these are extremely important-Greg made his and he'll have to pay the consequences-so be it!
It is so very fucking sad---from being a great guy to being a "patsy" for the "cult"--he has made it so.......
Sorry it's not good news Uncle Sam, but I heard a couple of weeks ago from a mate of mine who knew them all well, that Sandy did pass away around a year and a half ago, as a result of the MS.