Is Shelley Duvall GoFundMe by Scientologist Vivian Kubrick for Scientology treatment?

CommunicatorIC

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Is the GoFundMe for Shelley Duvall by Scientologist Vivian Kubrick for Scientology treatment, or for licensed therapy?

https://www.gofundme.com/shelley-duvall

HT - Mark Ebner: https://twitter.com/MarkEbner59/status/799735286921973761

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https://twitter.com/ViKu1111/status/799644487584714752

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CommunicatorIC

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Things You Need To Know Before Donating to Vivian Kubrick’s Fund for Shelley Duvall

Horror Freak News: Things You Need To Know Before Donating to Vivian Kubrick’s Fund for Shelley Duvall

http://horrorfreaknews.com/things-need-know-donating-vivian-kubricks-fund-shelley-duvall

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Things You Need To Know Before Donating to Vivian Kubrick’s Fund for Shelley Duvall

by Joshua Millican on November 18, 2016

This is not an editorial about Shelley Duvall’s appearance on The Dr. Phil Show today (Friday, November 18th). This is information that horror fans who are considering donating to Vivian Kubrick’s medical relief fund for Duvall need to know. While people have been rushing to praise Kubrick and demonize Dr. Phil, you need to look at a bigger picture:

Vivian Kubrick became a Scientologist in 1999 at which point she became estranged from the rest of her family. She did not attend the funeral of her own sister, Anya Kubrick, in 2009, nor did she visit her sister when she was battling cancer.(Source)

Scientology has a long history of hostility towards psychiatry. For details please read the article Scientology’s war on psychiatry at Salon.com, HERE.

The location listed on Vivian Kubrick’s Go Fund Me page for Duvall is Clearwater, FL. Neither Kubrick nor Duvall lives in Clearwater; it is, however the location of The Church of Scientology’s business operations. Who are you really giving your money to?

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Anonycat

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All of the funds raised on this GoFundMe account are going to Shelley Duvall. Just to tell you more about why I started the fund. Read on ... Lee Unkrich of TOY STORY fame has been writing a book about the making of The Shining. In his efforts to get an interview with Shelley, he spoke first with her friends, they said she was financially hard up and unwell and Shelley declined to do the interview. Neither Lee nor myself, had any idea how severe Shelley's state of health was until Lee texted me a link to the Dr. Phil trailer 2 nights ago. We were both horrified. That's when I fired off my 2 Tweets to Dr. Phil.
 
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dchoiceisalwaysrs

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Re: Is Shelley Duvall GoFundMe by Scientologist Vivian Kubrick for Scientology treatm

How much of the funding will funnel through CCHR is my first thought
 

arcxcauseblows

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ah saw her video on dr phil wtf

scientology vultures are disgusting
 
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lotus

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Re: Is Shelley Duvall GoFundMe by Scientologist Vivian Kubrick for Scientology treatm

Just in case this message disappears.....


Dee Anna Marrujo

15 hours ago
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Ms. Kubrick: The fact that you keep deleting messages (that I and others have posted here) that post some simple questions tells me you have something to hide. I understand that you are against psychiatry, psychology, and psychotropic drugs, but from the interview it appears that Miss Duvall is in great need of psychiatric treatment, and that will likely include drug therapy. Would you deny her that relief because your own religion opposes these treatments? I don't think Shelley Duvall is herself a Scientologist. Please respond to this valid question. Thank you.

This story is so sad...

Exploited, mentally destroyed and left on the edge by Stanley Kubrick (to make his movie so intense as he wanted....and make $$$$)
Gone totally insane
Now exploited By ''Dr'' Phill entertainment inc...who, while making hundreds of thousands $$$ with her on his SHOW
is ''kindly'' offer to help her...pay for her to be seens by a med doctor... how much ????
then, a $cientologist is putting a fund raising for her...to ''help her''..100K$$$ is expected....what for ????

Is $cientology planning making money with her mental illness ???? Introspection rd ???? send her in a remote location to be held captive and put on watch ???? (5,000$\week???)

People muts ask her for a commitment and a draft about how that money will be spent

how much for medical care???
How much for psychiatric care???
How much for berthing and where???
Who much for medication????
How much for her basic needs and comfort???
How much to pay her bills ????

She must commit hereself to reassure people no money will be given to the CO$, neither for processing, rundown, watch, to volunter minister for assists...
and she must be held accountable for this is really used for Shelly's care and treatment according to proven good practices to treat severe mental and physical condition...those exclude naturotherapist, chiropractor as primary care, as well as church minister as medical care!


And..she must post invoices and bills paid to cover her care, personnal expenses and what have been transferred into her personnal money account and who is legally in charge of her finances..

She must be warned that she will be held responsible for any worsening condition that may occur if she takes her into $cientology instead of prviding her with proper medical tratment.

That whole things smell $cientology plans to ''take care'' of her..very strong..it smells extremely bad...:unsure:

By now she certainly knows that she is been watched closely for what she will be doing with the lady and the money raised for her benefit!
 
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CommunicatorIC

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Vivian Kubrick, Stanley’s Daughter: 5 Fast Facts

Heavy.com - Vivian Kubrick, Stanley’s Daughter: 5 Fast Facts

http://heavy.com/entertainment/2016...e-shining-twitter-alex-jones-anya-family-bio/

Excerpts:

1. Kubrick Insists That Every Penny Raised Will Go Directly to Shelley Duvall

2. Kubrick Had a Falling-Out With Her Father During Post-Production of ‘Eyes Wide Shut’

3. Christiane Kubrick Says Vivian Went to Her Father’s Funeral With a Mysterious Scientology Person & She Didn’t Attend Anya’s Funeral at All

4. In 2013, Vivian Kubrick Participated in an Alex Jones-Hosted Anti-Government Rally in Dallas

5. Kubrick Tried to Stop the Moon Landing Conspiracy Theories Once & For All With a Long Twitter Letter in July
 

CommunicatorIC

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Dlisted makes the following observation:

http://dlisted.com/2016/11/17/stanl...-away-from-dr-phils-shelley-duvall-interview/

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According to articles on the internet (like this one from The Daily Beast), Vivian became a Scientologist in the late-90s and stopped speaking to her family. So while I love Vivian Kubrick giving it to Dr. Phil, I don’t know how I’d feel about Vivian trying to help Shelley by recruiting her into Scientology. Shelley would go from thinking that aliens are living on her body to…well thinking that aliens are living on her body.

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uncover

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Candy Clark said:
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Any time questions are brought up as to where the money will go, by me and others, our comments are promptly deleted. There is no plan as to where your contributions are going.....
I am convinced that there is a plan as to where the contributions will be going: to pay for the famous Co$ Introspection Rundown....

So donate, donate, donate....

BTW: I can't see a big difference between a has-been actress and a retired technician - both got paid for doing their chosen job. So why noone is starting a gofundme-page for the many cancerous and maybe insane technicians ?

IMHO as the heir of Stanley Kubricks wealth Vivian Kubrick should pay for the desired Co$-service out of her own pocket.
 

Anonycat

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I hope Shelley gets wind of this scam and contacts Go Fund Me about this. When the OP first went up, I was very disturbed, and now I have a moment to write about my thoughts. First, it's listed under Medical. If it is indeed going to pre-pay for courses at the cult bunker in Florida (and hotel!) then this is fraud, and unacceptable as it indicates practicing medicine. Secondly, it draws great concern that it isn't going directly to Ms Duvalls' account, which is fraud. Nowhere does the GoFundMe page for Shelley Duvall say what the plan is, or if Ms. Duvall is even aware of it.

Then there's that pop-up Facebook account. That rambling paragraph that I copy/pasted in an earlier post, was just a few minutes old when I copied it. It explains NOTHING. All I was able to glean from it was that Vivian Kubrick heard about the show, and then started collecting a large amount of cash, and with a goal of $100,000. This is all very suspicious to me.

Here's the contact for TMZ, if anyone is interested:
Got A Tip? Email Or Call (888) 847-9869
 

Anonycat

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Okay, here comes the media. Expect more outlets to pick this up soon.

Vivian Kubrick, Stanley’s Daughter: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

In that episode, Duvall came forward with her battle with mental illness, making her a rare public appearance over a decade after making her last film. “Your exploitive [sic] use of Shelley Duvall is a form of LURID ENTERTAINMENT and is shameful,” Kubrick tweeted. She then called on others to boycott the episode “because it has nothing to do with compassionate healing.”
However, Kubrick is a Scientologist and Scientology doesn’t believe in psychiatry. Therefore, some have questioned Kubrick’s true intentions behind her fund, which Kubrick has defended.

Full article: http://heavy.com/entertainment/2016...e-shining-twitter-alex-jones-anya-family-bio/
 

arcxcauseblows

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until this slimy story unfolds there's some things we can conclude without speculation

what does this say about scientology, that a church with 3 billion dollars tax exempt thats well known for preying on celebrities won't help her without a public fundraiser, paid for by people who pay taxes, no doubt for auditing

they will lisa mcpherson her before they get her real medical help

to scientologists scientology is a hammer and everything else is nails and yes they'll take her in session and eventually tell her the problems are coming from aliens in her body thanks to zenu wtf get her real help not more cosmic debris mumbo jumbo there needs to be a way to intervene when scientology vultures swoop in on easy prey

this is so disgusting and typical of them, looking for ways to make money off celebrities and funnel it to the church
 

Anonycat

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until this slimy story unfolds there's some things we can conclude without speculation

what does this say about scientology, that a church with 3 billion dollars tax exempt thats well known for preying on celebrities won't help her without a public fundraiser, paid for by people who pay taxes, no doubt for auditing

they will lisa mcpherson her before they get her real medical help

to scientologists scientology is a hammer and everything else is nails and yes they'll take her in session and eventually tell her the problems are coming from aliens in her body thanks to zenu wtf get her real help not more cosmic debris mumbo jumbo there needs to be a way to intervene when scientology vultures swoop in on easy prey

this is so disgusting and typical of them, looking for ways to make money off celebrities and funnel it to the church


I also considered that they have a billion dollars, and are required by law to engage in charitable actions. Then there's the irony of Ms. Kubrick Tweeting in all caps that Ms. Duvall going on the television show was exploitation. Ahem. No, she decided to do that herself, and she's mentally able to decide that; she's not conserved. And she got paid, so there's the personal money that you said you were so concerned about. It stinks of exploitation that someone would just decide to take up a collection without first getting permission from the recipient. Kinda like what Marty did for Debbie cook. One can't help but wonder what's really on their mind and motivation.

I just spent 2 seconds Googling (Shelley Duvall Management) and there it was: https://www.allamericanspeakers.com/booking-request.php?SpName=Shelley-Duvall
 

lotus

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Ms. Duvall going on the television show was exploitation. Ahem. No, she decided to do that herself, and she's mentally able to decide that; she's not conserved.

I agree that Dr Phill is exploiting (making money of) her..as well as all people going on the show! His business is an entertainment business, so he entertains millions of people (morbid voyeurism) , using human distress displayed in his show

I don't see she is mentally able..even though there is no report she has been legally declared unable..it's obvious she is not able to take the right decision for herself and to accept medical care....:confused2:
 

Anonycat

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I agree that Dr Phill is exploiting (making money of) her..as well as all people going on the show! His business is an entertainment business, so he entertains millions of people (morbid voyeurism) , using human distress displayed in his show

I don't see she is mentally able..even though there is no report she has been legally declared unable..it's obvious she is not able to take the right decision for herself and to accept medical care....:confused2:

I'm more compassionate. If you're struggling with the spectrum of mental illness, but still safely on your own - decision-wise - do what you want. You're not a danger to yourself or others, so spill your guts about it if you want to. It's your right. It may seem odd ... even shocking to those of us who've never seen it before, but it's okay with me if she wants to do that. And it's challenging to get work, which she found a way to do.

A member here has commented that they struggle with mental health issues, and they do sci-stuff. It's their choice. To me personally, fake medical/spiritual invigoration is really despicable. That to me is a form of offensive exploitation.

Finally, all of Capitalism includes exploitation, so ... it's part of who we are, unless we go Socialist.

She has about $2,000,000 so she doesn't need a stranger to raise $100,000 (a lot!) for mental health services.
https://www.google.com/search?q=shelly+duvall+net+worth&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=shelley+duvall+net+worth

If it was for actual mental health services, that would be enough to last decades. Her two million USD is plenty to take care of her for life. If this page is more accurate, she has $5 million USD, which feels accurate. http://celebritynetworths.org/shelley-duvall-net-worth/
 

Leland

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I tried your link Anonycat to see vivian kubrick's net worth....but it didn't work.

That to me would be more interesting.....Vivian Kubrick, glomming onto a multi millionaire......that is more a cult action.

Any chance of finding out what Vivian is worth?
 

CommunicatorIC

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Pharyngula: Scientology sucks

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/11/20/scientology-sucks/

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The actress Shelley Duvall was recently interviewed by the odious Dr Phil, who worked her current mental illness for ratings. One unfortunate consequence of that interview, though, is that Vivian Kubrick, Stanley Kubrick’s daughter, has started fundraising to supposedly benefit Duvall. Unfortunate because Kubrick is a Scientologist, which calls her motives and actual intent into question.

[SNIP]

So she has no real connection with Duvall, Duvall has not asked for this, and the request is maddeningly vague — just “Give me money, and somehow I might use it to help someone with psychiatric issues, despite not believing in psychiatry at all”.

Kubrick has so far raised over $22,000 just by appealing to people’s sympathy for a celebrity. Stop. You don’t know where the money you’re giving is going to go at all.

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