A major problem with Marty and Steve Hall is that they obviously LIKE and attempt to follow Hubbard's ADMIN TECH (involving groups). Many indies have discarded much of the "third dynamic technology" as they have correctly found it to be the MAJOR SOURCE of WHY Scientology harms others in the name of achieving its goals.
Ethics is geared around "third dynamic" ideas. Just look at the Liability Formula where one is urged to "make up the damage to the
group one has been pretending to be a part of". Hubbard's green-on-white policies, and other orders and instructions, involve "making a group survive", especially in some contest with "enemies". Hubbard's Lower Conditions involve the viewpoint of "betrayal" and battling it out with other groups who are trying to beat or harm you. THat attitude is built into the system.
Idiots like Marty and Steve still buy into all of the Admin & Ethics Tech, and it is THAT which makes them still so amazingly FANATICAL. That is why Steve comes across as a total dedicated mindless RonBot. Some other extant FZers have long ago abandoned most of the Admin and Ethics "tech" in favor of simply using auditing as a sort of mental/spiritual therapy. Many of them are no longer trying to "save the world" or "salvage this sector", but instead simply try to help people one-on-one with auditing. These sorts are largely
first dynamic oriented, while Marty and Steve are still obviously VERY MUCH
third dynamic oriented. It is the aligment with the crazy group that makes fanatical groups so crazy. This involves group insanity, group agreement and group momentum, and it usually is NUTS.
The notion of "putting in ethics on others" is just so much an ideological leftover from way too much involvement with Hubbard's Sea Org. Marty, Steve and others like them still suffer from so MUCH of the
third dynamic aberration that Hubbard's slick over-indoctrination implanted into their soggy little heads.
Truthfully, I don't see much difference between Marty or Steve and extant Scientology church members. They are both quite fanatical in that they accept the large majority of EVERYTHING Hubbard said. They have yet to reach a point where they come to notice that some or much of Hubbard's writings need to be flushed right down the toilet, and NOT accepted and followed. But they have a long way to go. Sadly it seems, a VERY LONG WAY to go.
Marty and Steve are still playing Hubbard's game, just in a different context. They probably tuly think and believe that David Miscavige is actually the ONLY thing wrong in all of Scientology.
Yep, apparently they ARE
that deluded. Thye still want to create a vital movement (group) that aims to bring Sceintology to all the people's of Earth - to thus
salvage this sector!