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Re: Cathriona White's suicide


There is a just-begun thread about about another talented "wog" artist who ended up in Scientology. Like Cathriona, Carmen Llewellyn also had a major celebrity boyfriend (Jason Lee). Thus, she was also being "handled" by the Office of Special Affairs.

OSA tried to manipulate and orchestrate Carmen's life and her relationships (see nearly identical stories about Nicole Kidman, Leah Remini, Katie Holmes and others) but when Carmen wouldn't go along with the program (keeping quiet about the OT Jason Lee being a drunk who physically beat her) they fair gamed her. For years and years.

And still they try to stalk and destroy her to this very day.

SEE THREAD ON CARMEN

The reason I cross-index these stories is this little part where she mentions what happened when the insane cult stalked, terrorized and fair gamed her:

(Carmen speaks):

"I lost my manager and my career. People didn't return my phone calls. Scientologists followed me down the street. They took pictures of my kids. They'd stake out my house, wait until we came out and follow us. They came looking for me to scare me, I was nearly suicidal."


That's the identical psychological response another of the cult's terror victims (Paulette Cooper) testified happened to her.

Scientology Management: For them, it is a big "win" and "upstat" and "humanitarian" when they can "cause" an innocent person to contemplate or commit suicide.


 
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Something I don't believe has been mentioned here.

She seems to have been an illegal PC.

Yes. And although it is often said that money is the reason to keep illegal pcs on line, OSA sometimes has reasons other than money. I believe that OSA will sometimes use them as dupes - in her case her relationship with Carrey (SP) gave them a chance to get intel on him. They could actually covertly fuck with him (fair game) through her without her even knowing.

I believe OSA does use illegal pcs like this at times. The PCs psychological history can be used against them if they decide not to play ball or their psych condition looks like it might cause trouble for the cult.

If Cathriona had become a dedicated follower, so much the better, she could have been a very useful SP-converter, dead agenter, or intel worker, or fair gamer.

If she were not to have become so dedicated, she would have been used anyway and was being used. That is a given.
 
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HelluvaHoax!

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Yes. And although it is often said that money is the reason to keep illegal pcs on line. But OSA sometimes has reasons other than money. I believe that OSA will sometimes use them as dupes - in her case her reltionship with Carrey (SP) gave them a chance to get intel on him. They could actually covertly fuck with him (fair game) through her without her even knowing.

I believe OSA does use illegal pcs like this at times. The PCs psychological history can be used against them if they decide not to play ball or their psych condition looks like it might cause trouble for the cult.

If Cathriona had become a dedicated follower, so much the better, she could have been a very useful SP-converter, dead agenter, or intel worker, or fair gamer.

If she were not to have become so dedicated, she would have been used anyway and was being used. That is a given.

Absolutely, OSA would use a PC (illegal or not) to gather intel and "crimes" and humiliating "secrets" to have "leverage" over an enemy (Jim Carrey).

It's not speculation.

It's written in plain view in their "scripture".

Paradoxically, Scientology won't even allow any debate about whether they commit such sociopathic and criminal actions--because one must never be "reasonable" about the "KSW" destruction of their "enemies" and such Fair Game policies are right there in the ground floor of every "Ideal Org", for sale in the books and OEC volumes.

Scientologists: For some reason they never got the memo that a criminal organization is supposed to hide their criminal policies, not promote and sell them.
 

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If the end result is imaginary, would all the pieces be imaginary also?
 
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Lone Star

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Weak. Very weak Hoaxie. Comparing apples to oranges. You have a hard on for Panda so much that you would stoop to this?

Pathetic.

Comparing the WTC attack to asking people to hold back on the ridiculous speculation out of deference to the girl's family.

BTW....You, Hoaxie, aren't nearly as important as you think you are. Shocking I know. The cult will go down one day with or without your posts here.

I say this because it's becoming more apparent to me that you are quite impressed with yourself.

I just wanted to take an opportunity to apologize to Hoaxie for the post above that I made yesterday. Mainly the last half of it.

I have no good excuse for it. I just wasn't in a good state of mind at the time.

I'm still not approving of how a handful of you treated Panda the other day. But, I handled it wrongly. I should've just kept out of it.

My apologies.
 
I just wanted to take an opportunity to apologize to Hoaxie for the post above that I made yesterday. Mainly the last half of it.

I have no good excuse for it. I just wasn't in a good state of mind at the time.

I'm still not approving of how a handful of you treated Panda the other day. But, I handled it wrongly. I should've just kept out of it.

My apologies.

Nothing for me?
 

HelluvaHoax!

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I just wanted to take an opportunity to apologize to Hoaxie for the post above that I made yesterday. Mainly the last half of it.

I have no good excuse for it. I just wasn't in a good state of mind at the time.

I'm still not approving of how a handful of you treated Panda the other day. But, I handled it wrongly. I should've just kept out of it.

My apologies.


We're cool brother!

Notice I never responded to it, cuz I figured (whatever it was) would simply blow over.

We party on, my friend, as always.
 

Lone Star

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Nothing for me?

No apology for you!!

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(Your "you always agree with Panda" reply to me was so inane and such a lie that I just can't bring myself to apologize for my reply to you. As you probably know I did at least tone it way down with a later edit, or two, or three. That'll just have to suffice for you. If it doesn't...well...I don't really care).
 
No apology for you!!

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(Your "you always agree with Panda" reply to me was so inane and such a lie that I just can't bring myself to apologize for my reply to you. As you probably know I did at least tone it way down with a later edit, or two, or three. That'll just have to suffice for you. If it doesn't...well...I don't really care).

Gawd!
Don't be a pussy. I need my abusers to be real men.
 

I told you I was trouble

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What a fantastic board this is, we almost always seem to sort out any issues between ourselves when we are ready, quietly ... and Panda is fantastic ... he's completely genuine about any concerns he has (not a show pony) and whether I agree with him or not (and I don't every time) I do totally respect him.

Love to you all ... I'm embarrassingly proud to be a member of ESMB.

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Leland

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I would not be too sure about that. Jim Carrey's net worth is $150 million. People like that are targeted by lots of people who want a piece of their wealth or celebrity. In self defense, wealthy and famous people have staffs looking out for them. If not Jim personally, his agent would be looking out for him. Plus his family.

I'm sure that, very shortly after the second date, he (or the people looking out for him) would have PI reports containing everything there was to be known about her in front of him.

That's not what I wrote....or meant to write...or was trying to get across.

What I'm trying to say is Jim Carrey would not have a clue about the "depth" or "intricacy" or the magnitude of insanity....that is the Cult of Hubbard.....and how all that craziness.....would have been brought to bear upon Miss White.....which in turn ....he would have been on the receiving end of.....to some degree.

The reason I made all those posts above....is anyone reading this thread that was not a Cult Member at some time...and had no familiarity with the "tech"......wouldn't have a clue....as to what one "agrees" with .....when one becomes involved with the Cult....AND to what degree Cult Members hide what they are becoming.....when dealing with anyone, not in the Cult. Cult Members are specialists at hiding there "new secret knowledge..."

Would Miss White have ever told Jim Carrey.....something like....."well, I'm due in for an Ethics Handling with the Ethics Officer,,,,today at 4PM....about my 2d"........

Even if she explained it to him in plain English?

I'm sure you're right about Jim Carrey.....and his management....but what management is going to try to figure out the Cult.....to explain the Cult??
 

Lone Star

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And then there is this NEW development!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...friend-Cathriona-White-suspected-suicide.html

This is a new article showing 3 people coming to Cathriona's house and breaking the Coroner's seal, then one taking her car away. Culties from CC or OSA? Looks very suspicious! See the video in the link.

I hope someone outside the home took a close up picture of the license plate of the black SUV as it sped off. That would be very helpful in determining who the hell it was who just walked into her house like they owned the place and drove her car away.

I'm thinking these people are with a Private Investigator firm. They had a key to the house, the car, and the remote garage door opener/closer. Who hired the firm if that's who they are? My bet is either Jim Carrey or the Cult. I tend to think it is Jim Carrey because the car is probably his. If this is true I hope for his sake that he got police permission to take the car because he will be questioned soon regarding the prescription medication belonging to him that was found next to her body.

Earlier when he was there himself he removed a lot of boxes. He probably had permission to do that though.
 

Jump

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I hope someone outside the home took a close up picture of the license plate of the black SUV as it sped off. That would be very helpful in determining who the hell it was who just walked into her house like they owned the place and drove her car away.

I'm thinking these people are with a Private Investigator firm. They had a key to the house, the car, and the remote garage door opener/closer. Who hired the firm if that's who they are? My bet is either Jim Carrey or the Cult. I tend to think it is Jim Carrey because the car is probably his. If this is true I hope for his sake that he got police permission to take the car because he will be questioned soon regarding the prescription medication belonging to him that was found next to her body.

Earlier when he was there himself he removed a lot of boxes. He probably had permission to do that though.


Welcome back. It's nice to see you wildly speculating along with the rest of us. :thumbsup:
 

WildKat

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I hope someone outside the home took a close up picture of the license plate of the black SUV as it sped off. That would be very helpful in determining who the hell it was who just walked into her house like they owned the place and drove her car away.

I'm thinking these people are with a Private Investigator firm. They had a key to the house, the car, and the remote garage door opener/closer. Who hired the firm if that's who they are? My bet is either Jim Carrey or the Cult. I tend to think it is Jim Carrey because the car is probably his. If this is true I hope for his sake that he got police permission to take the car because he will be questioned soon regarding the prescription medication belonging to him that was found next to her body.

Earlier when he was there himself he removed a lot of boxes. He probably had permission to do that though.

This scenario definitely needs further investigation.

I wonder how many people had keys to the house?
 

Lone Star

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Welcome back. It's nice to see you wildly speculating along with the rest of us. :thumbsup:

Well, I hear ya. But three days ago when this story was new and the information was not as forthcoming, the speculations were pretty wild and some bordering on the extreme. Now with more information released the speculation is more reality based and less extreme. Now discussions are taking place regarding events such as Carrey visiting the home of his girlfriend, the mysterious trio coming later, Miss White's taking vitamins intravenously for depression, etc...



Actually, Panda and myself were on a conference call last night with OSA, Rizza Islam, Louis Farrakhan, and DM's favorite PI who shall remain anonymous. I was given the green light by them to speculate away on ESMB. Panda was ordered to not post for a few more days, then he'll return playing his usual role until further orders are given. This paragraph will disappear in five minutes.
 

JustSheila

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I wonder which Scn doctor was involved in that vitamin drip? I'm betting it was a Scn doctor.

Could it have been 'Doctor' Megan Shields, who has been handling depression and illness with vitamin drips for decades? (It's true - she did it to me back in the 80s)

She certainly didn't cure her own daughter's depression, yet Dr Shields still pushes quack cures and remedies. I'd so love to see her license pulled.
 
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