John McMasters tech
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Dulloldfart
Squirrel Extraordinaire
Here is his "Story of S & D":
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2090745/Tech-History-1
From the one time I ran an S&D per his instructions it worked very well indeed. It makes good sense.
Paul
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2090745/Tech-History-1
From the one time I ran an S&D per his instructions it worked very well indeed. It makes good sense.
Paul
alex
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"There was a tremendous improvement in the
PCs because they found out that in actual
fact, when they were so-called "being the
effect" or "being suppressed" by someone
else, it was because of themselves and
something that they had that had compelled
them to become the effect of the other
person's behaviour." John McMaster - Ibid
Interesting quote in light of what I had been discussing with others on the "I love scientology" thread...
Interesting in light of how the church "finds" SPs everywhere....
Interesting to see how this could apply to anon and the grevious crimes the church has committed against them on the internets...
Interesting in light of the whole overt motivator sequence and the frequently backward understanding of it...
Interesting.
alex (who may just ponder on it on todays bike ride...)
PCs because they found out that in actual
fact, when they were so-called "being the
effect" or "being suppressed" by someone
else, it was because of themselves and
something that they had that had compelled
them to become the effect of the other
person's behaviour." John McMaster - Ibid
Interesting quote in light of what I had been discussing with others on the "I love scientology" thread...
Interesting in light of how the church "finds" SPs everywhere....
Interesting to see how this could apply to anon and the grevious crimes the church has committed against them on the internets...
Interesting in light of the whole overt motivator sequence and the frequently backward understanding of it...
Interesting.
alex (who may just ponder on it on todays bike ride...)
Dulloldfart
Squirrel Extraordinaire
Yeah. I thought of that when reading that particular thread, but decided not to jump into the fray.
Paul
Alan
Gold Meritorious Patron
This is a perfect example of how the Tech was discovered.
I was the pc. John found the correct S&D item - I had a few cogs - John wanted to end session - I refused - said: WTF I don't want to be left effect of that twit!" - "lets run what item represents!" so John did - Item found was "an isn'ter" - this led to the definition that an SP is one that unmocks you.
We ran "An Isn'ter" on all flows - which found "why" I put myself into the position to be the effect of the PT SP.
It also gave me separation from the stupid wrong items that prevailed all through Scio.
BTW LRH had ordered me to get an S&D - he was C/Sing this session - he took the defintion I gave for an SP and issued it - but he refused to put in the represent step.
Had that been done - the disasters that have emanated from Ethics since would have been prevented.
I have used the represent step since that time - never needed an Ethics Officer since that time. (1967)
Alan
Oneflewover
Patron with Honors
That was really nice to read. It's good to get one more perspective on what may have steered the ship onto the rocks around that time.
Looks like LRH was squirrelling some of his research auditors tech too.
Dulloldfart
Squirrel Extraordinaire
Yeah. Was it a compulsive refusal to accept another's suggestion as-is; or a deliberate attempt to minimize the effectiveness of that bit of tech; or what?
Paul
thetanic
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When in fact, an SP can't unmock you. Only you can unmock you.
Dulloldfart
Squirrel Extraordinaire
Alan
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thetanic
Gold Meritorious Patron
Of course the correct question is: What 'you' got unmocked?
That's really the OTIII+ form of the question, innit?
Div6
Crusader
The last series of lecutres LRH gave were in 1975, Daytona Beach, on the topic of the New Vitality Rundown. According to those who have heard them, LRH gave an updated view on PTS\SP tech, and incorporated McMasters contributions in to the rundown. It used a lot of R3RA, and has, to my knowledge, never been released outside of Flag or updated for use on Clears and above..........
Alan
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No - not really - most beings have created millions of own "you's" (identities) down through time. And to add to the confusion have been created as "artificial you's" also - Entities just add some more things to misown
Good twin
Floater
Feral
Rogue male
That was a good read, and sorted out a matter that had bothered me about PTS SP tech, makes perfect sense if you really want to be cause over a PTS SP situation.
One thing, How does it resolve the rare psychopath like Hitler or say DM? Such were SPs for many people and seem to have their SP traits "set off' by so many beings that such an address would seem less practical than "justice"
One thing, How does it resolve the rare psychopath like Hitler or say DM? Such were SPs for many people and seem to have their SP traits "set off' by so many beings that such an address would seem less practical than "justice"
thetanic
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No - not really - most beings have created millions of own "you's" (identities) down through time. And to add to the confusion have been created as "artificial you's" also - Entities just add some more things to misown
Hell, some of us created entities to be here. (pun intended)
I agree with you that BTs do not accurately describe the concept of entities.
I wouldn't want to get rid of my buddies. One of them helps find me good parking spaces. I could go oahtee and have no place to park! That would suck.
Alan
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Art
Guest
Fits in with the LRH lecture (I believe it was one of the State of Man Congress series - I really don't know) when he explains that the auditor coaxes the pc to create the auditor and the auditor's commands, and that the comm formula (he says half-jokingly) should be rewritten as "cause-distance-cause".
Really nice, crisp, certain piece of writing.
One thing still kind of puzzles me - that when LRH is found to have made a mistake, the world collapses. I'm not pointing fingers - at least not with ill-will - but the guy is entitled to being a thetan just like the rest of us perfect beings, no? "The good men do lives after them, the bad is oft interred with their bones. So let it be with Caesar." (And that was Caesar - Ron can't get the same break?)
Thanks muchissimo for the link there, Paul
That's a really valuable piece of tech to have and apply. Very interesting to have the "live" session demo too (courtesy of Alan). Gees, I'm happy to be priviledged to be reading here, what you guys are putting up! Best,
Art
Div6
Crusader
You mean a ......Hidden Data Line...............?
Unreleased Tech...
Current Management has enshrined the Hidden Data Line as part of their "operating basis". Davey has a "Magic 8 Ball" of unpublished "LRH advices" he can fall back on to justify just about anything........
Panda Termint
Cabal Of One
Please, Div 6, the correct terminology is "Consultant Advices".
On that subject, ANZO'ites would be horrified to know of some of the things "The Consultant" had to say about those worthy folk.
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