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Please....DO tell....

Well, I wouldn't want to repeat the mean-spirited comments contained in those particular diatribes. In a nutshell, it comes down to this; The Consultant appeared to be Royally Pissed at ANZO CofS and FOLOANZO.
The Consultant Advice(s) are from the late 70s and seem to me to be the genus of several things that occurred in ANZO in the early 80s including;
The looting of ANZO's best and brightest Tech terminals (some stood firm and refused to leave for the sake of their Orgs and for that I applaud them), the atrocious overcrowded Berthing in downstat areas and working conditions of SO members, the removal of Mike Eves (as CO FOLO) and installation of Phyl Stevens in his place, the resultant crash of delivery stats throughout ANZO, it goes on and on and culminated in the now infamous Matt Henderson Mission covered elsewhere on the board.
Many blame Miss Cabbage or Le-Server and his Missionaires for these things, I believe that the Consultant Advice for ANZO had a lot to do with it.
How to describe the actual content of the Advices? The term "1.1 carping criticism" springs to mind. Seek not of whom the bell tolls, it tolls of him (Ronnnn-g... Ronnnn-g... Ronnnn-g!).
I don't know what ANZO did that got him so pissed at us but whatever it was, he sure showed us!
 

DartSmohen

Silver Meritorious Patron
Well, I wouldn't want to repeat the mean-spirited comments contained in those particular diatribes. In a nutshell, it comes down to this; The Consultant appeared to be Royally Pissed at ANZO CofS and FOLOANZO.
The Consultant Advice(s) are from the late 70s and seem to me to be the genus of several things that occurred in ANZO in the early 80s including;
The looting of ANZO's best and brightest Tech terminals (some stood firm and refused to leave for the sake of their Orgs and for that I applaud them), the atrocious overcrowded Berthing in downstat areas and working conditions of SO members, the removal of Mike Eves (as CO FOLO) and installation of Phyl Stevens in his place, the resultant crash of delivery stats throughout ANZO, it goes on and on and culminated in the now infamous Matt Henderson Mission covered elsewhere on the board.
Many blame Miss Cabbage or Le-Server and his Missionaires for these things, I believe that the Consultant Advice for ANZO had a lot to do with it.
How to describe the actual content of the Advices? The term "1.1 carping criticism" springs to mind. Seek not of whom the bell tolls, it tolls of him (Ronnnn-g... Ronnnn-g... Ronnnn-g!).
I don't know what ANZO did that got him so pissed at us but whatever it was, he sure showed us!

Sounds like Hubbard's M/W/H's were coming back to haunt him. :yes: :eyeroll:

Mind you, putting Phyll Stevens in charge was a bit like asking Pol Pot to take over. :omg:
 

Div6

Crusader
Sounds like Hubbard's M/W/H's were coming back to haunt him. :yes: :eyeroll:

Mind you, putting Phyll Stevens in charge was a bit like asking Pol Pot to take over. :omg:

Indeed...ever since he (LRH) went out 2-d with one of the Aussie orgs ED's wife.....I'd say he was heavily dramatizing his M/W/H's and ser facs........
 

Flag-2005

Patron with Honors
So pretty much that one PTS document is all we can gather on John McMasters tech?

Was he really on the tech lines or more the PR push?
 

Flag-2005

Patron with Honors
Really no more information on this guy?

He never went independent or authored any tech developemnts, only power?

Did anyone here know him?
 
Don't tell me what to do.

There was/is an "ANZO rundown"
I remember when it first came out the techies being bemused by the "button"
which was "Don't tell me what to do"

Connecting the dots, with a lot of speculation of course, it sounds like someone in ANZO wasn't compliant enough.
 

DartSmohen

Silver Meritorious Patron
There was/is an "ANZO rundown"I remember when it first came out the techies being bemused by the "button"which was "Don't tell me what to do"Connecting the dots, with a lot of speculation of course, it sounds like someone in ANZO wasn't compliant enough.

The ANZO Rundown was really quite simple;

"Start of Session"

HARDEN THE FUCK UP

"End of Session"

:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
 
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Feral

Rogue male
There was/is an "ANZO rundown"
I remember when it first came out the techies being bemused by the "button"
which was "Don't tell me what to do"

Connecting the dots, with a lot of speculation of course, it sounds like someone in ANZO wasn't compliant enough.

It is a pretty common button in ANZO. So much so that when I got to the US the first time I couldn't even get anyone to stand still long enough while I went through my usual social circuitry and preamble to a request.

When you handle a lot of people in Aus. you get used to making your orders the other blokes idea; "Hey mate, Howyagoin? You wouldn't mind getting me a coke would you?" ....Always the preferred method at home. I was in the middle of my polite request when a loud American woman barged in, snapped her fingers and said "coke". I ducked, surely she was going to get it without a glass...in the face....NO, he gives it to her with a smile!!!WTF??? Whats worse is he totally ignored me!

You don't tell people what to do in Australia, not directly anyway, you let them save face by misowning the order as their own.
 

Andrew

Patron with Honors
ANZO S.O.P.


Snr. "Could you please get me a coke?"

Jr. "What's wrong with your arms & legs?" - Exit stage left. <Polite version>


Or the alternative which I prefer.


Snr. "Could you please get me a coke?"

Jr. "Yes." - Departs with zero intention of compliance.
 

Terril park

Sponsor
Really no more information on this guy?

He never went independent or authored any tech developemnts, only power?

Did anyone here know him?

Alan Walter did, and I expect Dart must have. The ideas from John's research on PTSness were at the time not used by LRH. I believe Alan was a co-researcher here and has posted the details somewhere on ESMB.

The ideas developed were used in LRH's last lectures given to Flag auditors
in 1975, and are incorporated in the New Vitality rundown.
 

Feral

Rogue male
ANZO S.O.P.


Snr. "Could you please get me a coke?"

Jr. "What's wrong with your arms & legs?" - Exit stage left. <Polite version>


Or the alternative which I prefer.


Snr. "Could you please get me a coke?"

Jr. "Yes." - Departs with zero intention of compliance.

Slightly smarter senior; "Gee, a mans not a camel.....you thirsty?"

Junior; " Yeah, a bit"

Snr, "Why don't you get us both a coke, we'll have a breather"

Note if senior has to pay for both, then the next time its juniors "shout" (which means he buys) So next time he wants a coke he simply says "your shout"
 
Really no more information on this guy?

He never went independent or authored any tech developemnts, only power?

Did anyone here know him?

I was on staff and saw John McMaster speak a number of times. Very charismatic guy. The rooms were packed whenever he appeared.
 
In NZ you don't tell the waiter to bring you X.
you ask him to bring you X.

If you do the former you could get X+ pee.

At least I think that's how it was. I haven't been there for a few years.
 

Flag-2005

Patron with Honors
The ideas developed were used in LRH's last lectures given to Flag auditors
in 1975, and are incorporated in the New Vitality rundown.

'the New Vitality rundown' was one of my favorite courses, learned a method from Ron giving an example of indicating an L&N item that was not anywhere else but should have been. Great course, so it was part John McMasters tech.

So once he was outed from Scientology he went off quietly?
 

Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
In NZ you don't tell the waiter to bring you X.
you ask him to bring you X.

If you do the former you could get X+ pee.

At least I think that's how it was. I haven't been there for a few years.


New Zealand (as I have said before) is the only country in the world where you can go into a pub and ask for a bottle of horse-piss and then politely get served exactly that!

The local beer is that awful.
 
New Zealand (as I have said before) is the only country in the world where you can go into a pub and ask for a bottle of horse-piss and then politely get served exactly that!

The local beer is that awful.

Then standards have declined tremendously. When I was there some thirty years ago I was AMAZED at how good the local beer was. I developed a real fondness for Lion Brown Ale and several other local brews.

If you want piss, come try the u.s. mass market alcohol products. They are not worth the water wasted in making them. Amazing they have the gall to charge for them. Even more astounding americans are ****** enough to buy them.

I also found NZ beer to be inexpensive, of course that was only when I was able to buy it. Usually it was bought for me by friendly Kiwis.

All in all, Kiwiland impressed me at the time as a relatively "civilized" section of the planet.


Mark A. Baker
 
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