Juliette Lewis's cryptic answer

[Purple Rain]

What a load of rubbish. Think what you want about her writing style or whether or not she answers a question - how very un-TRs of her to NOT answer a question - but thinking you have ANY clue as to her motivations when you don't even know her is not only ignorant and wrong, but just plain ad hom. So much for "fact". What a joke. If you want to argue on the level of ad hom - target the person rather than the post - fine - but don't call that logical fallacy "fact" and expect to have any credibility.

To all those WTFing, I challenge you to say that to her face at the next SP party. I can't believe anyone would be as rude in real life as they are anonymously on a message board.

 

[Lone Star]

To all those WTFing, I challenge you to say that to her face at the next SP party. I can't believe anyone would be as rude in real life as they are anonymously on a message board.

Well only 2 actually WTF'd you. EC, who is quite mad you know. And Mr. Nobody who is just...well...hopeless. :wink2:

Note that they are both in Germany!

 

[MrNobody]

To all those WTFing, I challenge you to say that to her face at the next SP party. I can't believe anyone would be as rude in real life as they are anonymously on a message board.

I'm a lot more straight, honest and up-front in real-life conversations. I doubt you'd like what I'd have to say. Some people love that I don't beat around the bushes with a worthless feather duster, while others prefer to avoid honest communication. Guess which kind of people I prefer.

Well only 2 actually WTF'd you. EC, who is quite mad you know. And Mr. Nobody who is just...well...hopeless. :wink2:

Note that they are both in Germany!

Only one of us lives in Germany (yup, that'd be me), the other one just attempts to emulate the German language but would feel insulted if she was called a Geman.

 

[Purple Rain]

I'm a lot more straight, honest and up-front in real-life conversations. I doubt you'd like what I'd have to say. Some people love that I don't beat around the bushes with a worthless feather duster, while others prefer to avoid honest communication. Guess which kind of people I prefer.



Only one of us lives in Germany (yup, that'd be me), the other one just attempts to emulate the German language but would feel insulted if she was called a Geman.

Well, I could go up to someone and tell them they had a big nose, and that would be honest. It might even be true. It would have nothing to do with the validity of their opinions, however.

You were honest with my friend Sally about Fummy and you caused her a lot of unnecessary pain at a difficult time.

To think that saying hurtful things, whether honest or not, does not affect others in real life, and does not have consequences of which you are unaware is naive at best.

Sometimes it is necessary to tell the truth in love, as the Bible famously says, but the way it is done can be everything. Sometimes it is even the difference between life and death to somebody.

 

[MrNobody]

Well, I could go up to someone and tell them they had a big nose, and that would be honest. It might even be true. It would have nothing to do with the validity of their opinions, however.

Why would I need to tell people stuff they already know? People who have a nose big enough to be noticed, are already aware of it. Telling people who have lost 1/3 of their skull (including the gray matter therein) in a terrible accident that they're stupid would be more than pointless, which is why I don't do that. In fact I forbid such a poor guy to ever again apologize for his stupidity. I knew his story, I saw no need to jump onto the bandwagon of arrogance, end of story. But when it's about a bitch too arrogant to answer a simple, straight forward question? Yay, let's have some fun and kick her shins!

You were honest with my friend Sally about Fummy and you caused her a lot of unnecessary pain at a difficult time.

I told her exactly the same words I told another woman a few weeks earlier, when her mother died. The other woman found my words very helpful, but it didn't go so well with Sally. I apologized for that. What more can I do?

To think that saying hurtful things, whether honest or not, does not affect others in real life, and does not have consequences of which you are unaware is naive at best.

Sometimes it is necessary to tell the truth in love, as the Bible famously says, but the way it is done can be everything. Sometimes it is even the difference between life and death to somebody.

When there are things I think need to be said, I say them - even when they seem unpleasant at that moment. I did that hundreds of times and hundreds of people thanked me for that. Not right after I said it, because it was indeed painful, but weeks, months or even years later they thanked me - because although they did not want to hear them at that time, it were exactly the words they needed.

Don't get me wrong, there are a LOT of things I leave unsaid and a LOT of questions I leave unasked - but really, a [person] who refuses to answer an upfront question? A question about which unspecified torrent file it is that she wants to know about it's availability? After I had made already known in several threads that I'm seeding these files? When in fact I'm seeding several versions of these files?
And she's still too arrogant to tell me what she's looking for when I'm asking?

Guess what? She wanted to keep her request unspecified, so I did what I could: I gave her a link-list with thousands of files that matches the only keyword she was willing to give: "documentary". Did she thank me for that? Of course not, she's way too arrogant for that.

So I coined the well-deserved and long overdue meme: "Doing the Claire". Sue me.

 

[Purple Rain]

Why would I need to tell people stuff they already know? People who have a nose big enough to be noticed, are already aware of it. Telling people who have lost 1/3 of their skull (including the gray matter therein) in a terrible accident that they're stupid would be more than pointless, which is why I don't do that. In fact I forbid such a poor guy to ever again apologize for his stupidity. I knew his story, I saw no need to jump onto the bandwagon of arrogance, end of story. But when it's about a bitch too arrogant to answer a simple, straight forward question? Yay, let's have some fun and kick her shins!



I told her exactly the same words I told another woman a few weeks earlier, when her mother died. The other woman found my words very helpful, but it didn't go so well with Sally. I apologized for that. What more can I do?



When there are things I think need to be said, I say them - even when they seem unpleasant at that moment. I did that hundreds of times and hundreds of people thanked me for that. Not right after I said it, because it was indeed painful, but weeks, months or even years later they thanked me - because although they did not want to hear them at that time, it were exactly the words they needed.

Don't get me wrong, there are a LOT of things I leave unsaid and a LOT of questions I leave unasked - but really, a [person] who refuses to answer an upfront question? A question about which unspecified torrent file it is that she wants to know about it's availability? After I had made already known in several threads that I'm seeding these files? When in fact I'm seeding several versions of these files?
And she's still too arrogant to tell me what she's looking for when I'm asking?

Guess what? She wanted to keep her request unspecified, so I did what I could: I gave her a link-list with thousands of files that matches the only keyword she was willing to give: "documentary". Did she thank me for that? Of course not, she's way too arrogant for that.

So I coined the well-deserved and long overdue meme: "Doing the Claire". Sue me.

I won't sue you, but I sure as hell don't respect anyone who calls one of my friends a bitch. For what? What has she ever done to you?

As far as arrogant goes - pot meet kettle.

 

[MrNobody]

I won't sue you, but I sure as hell don't respect anyone who calls one of my friends a bitch. For what? What has she ever done to you?

Wrong question. The right question would have been: "What did she NEVER do to you?" The answer to that would be: "She NEVER honored a straight, up-front, non-personal, target-oriented question with a useful answer."

As far as arrogant goes - pot meet kettle.

Wrong, because I DO answer legitimate questions.

 

[Moderator 3]

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[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

I will help Juliette clarify her statement with my red elucidations

I only ever say, what I have been trained to say, when I’m asked about this—I have been trained to talk only about my freedom. Now I have to say scientology is a religion so I will associate it with religion and you will not notice we are not really a religion. Now I will pivot over to The Muslim religion, any religion, see you are now associating scientology with a religion and you can find trouble in See we are a normal 'religion' Did you take my bait? At the end of the day, I’m into protecting my freedom of choice, freedom of voice, freedom of religion, freedom of expression to dramatize the Stockholm syndrome And so as long as nothing is inhibiting that…oh shit I better not admit that it is a high crime per the scientology ethics book to NOT speak about any bad in scientology so I will switch stop that sentence and switch again But there are misconceptions that are annoying. But I have done TR-bullbait so I can't show any emotion. I’ve done media and interviews since I was 19. So I have had a lot of practice at avoiding a real answer I don’t feel [STRIKE] I’m represented[/STRIKE] I have been very truthfully. I still do it; it’s part of my job, I am trained on the scientology drill TR-Lie to lie. I don’t go to my government to get answers; I don’t go to the media to find the truth, because I have also been trained on how to be willfully blind. I find things out for myself, and would hint that anyone should come in and see if they can escape our con by accepting as the only truth of what Hubbard conned us into believing.

Thank you so much for the question. I hope you didn't notice that I didn't answer your question as to if I was annoyed or not. oh shit I wasn't supposed to speak my true inner thinking. Do I get a pass anyhow? I certainly hope you believed me 'cause I spent a whole three weeks with all the other scientology celebs on the dinky little fiberglass infected FleaWinds and had to be checked out by the yelling punching finger twisting SOB ohhh I mean COB.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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From 24 years ago:

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Originally Posted by Juliette Lewis

Dear Veda,

Why are you posting false and defamatory things about my church and my religion? I distinctly remember that TIME MAGAZINE cover and it was not what you posted. You didn't fool anyone with your entheta shoop! LOL

I went to the trouble of asking my church and my religion for a copy of the original Time so I could prove to any lurkers that defrocked Apostates lie about my church and my religion.

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For anyone curious about Time's depiction of my church and my religion somehow linked to an aquatic creature, I will remind you of my church and my religion's founder's fondness for the sea. Also, the octopus has, on the wholetrack, long been identified with integrity, ethics and insouciance--and thus was a natural choice for a graphic about my church and my religion.

ML,

Juliette Lewis
OT III
HITS course graduate
(Hubbard Integrity & Truth Specialist)

 

[Lulu Belle]

When my father got Alzheimer's, I was really angry at him. I felt like he was some ignorant person who hadn't taken care of or nurtured his mind, and I believed that the Alzheimer's disease was his own fault.

You're not alone. I am ashamed to say I had a similar reaction when my mother started getting Alzheimer's.

 

[MrNobody]

Settle down, willya!

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You know, one thing I dislike is the misinterpretation of things like "AdHom" or "Personal insult". In real life, I can and do just call a <self-censored> <self-censored> out for being a <self-censored> <self-censored> when she's just being a <self-censored> <self-censored>. I've even done that live on stage a few times. Nobody would go and cry about AdHom or whatever, because where I live, people know the important difference between insult/AdHom and stating relevant facts.

Being able to call a spade a spade when it's being a spade makes communication so much more effective. Just one true and honest statement and BANG, everybody knows exactly where they stand and now the other points of the issue(s) can be discussed and solved.

Really, calling a spade a spade when it's being a spade is just true, honest and effective communication and has nothing to do with insults or AdHom.

I know this is a very unpopular point of view around here but sometimes it just needs to be said.

And now:

'nuff said.

 

[Northern Shewolf]

Settle down, willya!

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Girls, girls!1 You are both pretty and smart, proof: you are arguing HERE!

 

[Northern Shewolf]

You're not alone. I am ashamed to say I had a similar reaction when my mother started getting Alzheimer's.

Wolves have taken care of Hewolf's mom for 10 years, we were lucky that as she advanced towards total dibilitation the sweet part of her self remained in the forefront...still it was real difficult to see a loved one's mind and spirit slowly dissolve..another aunt of mine just passed of the same affliction but she went the hard way, violently.
We boomers are the 1st generation to have had parents truly live well into old age, all thanks to the 20th century's great advances in pharmacopea and bio-medical giant leaps. Thus we are the first folks who are learning what living a very long time means....and necessicitates.
Lots of food for thoughts.:wink2:

 

[MrNobody]

Wolves have taken care of Hewolf's mom for 10 years, we were lucky that as she advanced towards total dibilitation the sweet part of her self remained in the forefront...still it was real difficult to see a loved one's mind and spirit slowly dissolve..another aunt of mine just passed of the same affliction but she went the hard way, violently.
We boomers are the 1st generation to have had parents truly live well into old age, all thanks to the 20th century's great advances in pharmacopea and bio-medical giant leaps. Thus we are the first folks who are learning what living a very long time means....and necessicitates.
Lots of food for thoughts.:wink2:

A good friend of mine works in a nursing home. About 30 of her patients suffer from varying degrees of dementia and a few are outright delusional.

One of the 1st things she had to learn in that job: Whatever it is they throw at you, be it verbally or materially, do not take it personally!

That alone isn't always easy, but professional distance helps - most of the times.

 

[Moderator 3]

You know, one thing I dislike is the misinterpretation of things like "AdHom" or "Personal insult". In real life, I can and do just call a <self-censored> <self-censored> out for being a <self-censored> <self-censored> when she's just being a <self-censored> <self-censored>. I've even done that live on stage a few times. Nobody would go and cry about AdHom or whatever, because where I live, people know the important difference between insult/AdHom and stating relevant facts.

Being able to call a spade a spade when it's being a spade makes communication so much more effective. Just one true and honest statement and BANG, everybody knows exactly where they stand and now the other points of the issue(s) can be discussed and solved.

Really, calling a spade a spade when it's being a spade is just true, honest and effective communication and has nothing to do with insults or AdHom.

I know this is a very unpopular point of view around here but sometimes it just needs to be said.

And now:

'nuff said.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law? :confused2:
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