Kansas City Ideal Org: Taxes & Velveeta Cheese

MissWog

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http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/why...ing-its-downtown-tax-bill/Content?oid=5099594

my bold below for lafs :p


Why isn't the Church of Scientology paying its downtown tax bill?

Back in 2007, the Church of Scientology bought a historic building across the street from the Kansas City Star's headquarters.


The Star, which at the time leased space in the City National Bank Building, at 1801 Grand, for its advertising functions, covered the transaction on the front page of the March 17, 2007, business section. According to that story, Kansas City's branch of Scientology planned to move its operations from 39th Street and Main to its newest property later that year.


The moving vans never made it downtown.


It's often said the Church of Scientology is the least reliable source of information about itself. The source quoted in that Star story suggests that there's good reason to accept the received wisdom about the controversial religion.


Scientology's local executive director, Maggie Kittinger, told the newspaper that the church had bought the building from erstwhile owner Grand Investment International for less than the $5.25 million asking price. That part is true: Jackson County real-estate records show that the actual sale price of the property was $5,076,092.
Acquisition and renovation, according to the story, would total $4 million. It's hard to gauge the accuracy of that estimate, though, because the church, eight years after the deal, little progress is apparent at the property.


Paint is chipping on the exterior of the building, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. A gaping hole in a broken window on the east-facing side of the building attests to neglect. The only sign of life visible through the structure's windows is a box of Velveeta cheese on the floor of a ground-level room.


The building is situated squarely within a prime-realty zip code, in the midst of downtown Kansas City's comeback. Demand for its use is, in theory, high. Jackson County real-estate records show that the building has held a steady market value of $3.5 million since 2010. Properly developed, this parcel would yield valuable tax revenue to the county.


But the county's records also show that, from 2010 to 2012, Scientology paid only $84 a year to cover its share of an assessment levied against all property that sits along a boulevard in Kansas City. (It paid $4,042 per year in 2013 and 2014 to cover the transportation-development-district assessment that is funding the under-construction downtown streetcar line.) The Star's headquarters, at 1729 Grand, valued by the county at slightly less than Scientology's building, pays roughly $98,000 a year in real-estate taxes.


Scientology is exempt from real-estate taxes because it's considered a religion, a designation it strong-armed the Internal Revenue Service into accepting in the early 1990s. But the church may be abusing that privilege; Missouri law states that a property must be "actually and regularly used exclusively for religious worship" in order for a religious organization to retain tax-exempt status on it.
Edwin Stoll, deputy chief administrator for Jackson County, tells The Pitch that the church has provided documentation that it holds events at 1801 Grand during downtown parades and such.


"While the church has not been able to utilize the entire building due to the needed construction and repairs, it has been confirmed that there is an ongoing religious use," Stoll writes in an e-mail.
Of course, whatever is happening there, Scientology officials won't talk about it. The Pitch over the years has asked Scientology what it plans to do with the building at 1801 Grand but has never received a response.


Recent inquiries have also gone ignored, which may owe something to Scientology officials busying themselves with damage control over Going Clear, an HBO documentary that premiered earlier this month. Going Clear portrays Scientology, started in Wichita in 1952 by the late pulp-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, less like a religion and more like a moneymaking scheme for well-paid executives at the expense of its members.


Ostensibly, Scientology wants to remake the City National Bank Building into what it calls "Ideal Orgs." The long delay in opening Kansas City's Ideal Org is emblematic of the lack of progress with similar buildings in other cities.
Ideal Orgs are improved versions of such buildings. (The org in Kansas City remains at 39th Street and Main.)


Around 2003, Scientology started buying up historic and sometimes opulent buildings to upgrade its inventory of existing orgs. Some of those buildings — notably one in Minneapolis — have been opened up to members. Many more remain empty and awaiting renovation, like Kansas City's. That's in large part because local Scientologists end up having to raise the cash for renovations.


The Church of Scientology claimed in 2007 that Kansas City was home to 10,000 members, but the organization is notorious for overstating the number of its adherents. One of its former presidents once testified that the church counts as members anyone who has picked up Hubbard's book Dianetics, Scientology's bible.
Even the purpose of an Ideal Org isn't altogether clear.


Hubbard in 1970 explained it this way: "It is the product of the causative actions of many. Anything which is short of an ideal org is an outpoint that can be put right. The end product is not just an ideal org, but a new civilization already on its way."


Not in downtown Kansas City.
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
Scientology's local executive director, Maggie Kittinger, told the newspaper that the church had bought the building from erstwhile owner Grand Investment International for less than the $5.25 million asking price. That part is true: Jackson County real-estate records show that the actual sale price of the property was $5,076,092.

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The building is situated squarely within a prime-realty zip code, in the midst of downtown Kansas City's comeback. Demand for its use is, in theory, high. Jackson County real-estate records show that the building has held a steady market value of $3.5 million since 2010. Properly developed, this parcel would yield valuable tax revenue to the county.


But the county's records also show that, from 2010 to 2012, Scientology paid only $84 a year to cover its share of an assessment levied against all property that sits along a boulevard in Kansas City. (It paid $4,042 per year in 2013 and 2014 to cover the transportation-development-district assessment that is funding the under-construction downtown streetcar line.) The Star's headquarters, at 1729 Grand, valued by the county at slightly less than Scientology's building, pays roughly $98,000 a year in real-estate taxes.


Scientology is exempt from real-estate taxes because it's considered a religion, a designation it strong-armed the Internal Revenue Service into accepting in the early 1990s. But the church may be abusing that privilege; Missouri law states that a property must be "actually and regularly used exclusively for religious worship" in order for a religious organization to retain tax-exempt status on it.

Interesting. By the building being owned by Scn, it allows the building to be "parked", exempt from taxes. This allows the property to be held, and then potentially sold when the market improves, much more cheaply than if the property was held by a private individual who had to pay taxes on it.
 

Udarnik

Gold Meritorious Patron
Interesting. By the building being owned by Scn, it allows the building to be "parked", exempt from taxes. This allows the property to be held, and then potentially sold when the market improves, much more cheaply than if the property was held by a private individual who had to pay taxes on it.

Exactly. Taxes have to be part of the P&L in a real estate business, and are part of what drives real estate price increases and destroys affordable housing.
 

Knows

Gold Meritorious Patron
I recall a post about St Louis not paying their real estate taxes for years. Tell Kansas City Officials to do what the City of St Louis did - they got the money from the cult!!

IN fact - the St Louis Org has been paying those taxes on time now that DeeClared Es Pee's squeeled on them to the members that they were not paying the taxes!!

That worked. They paid.

Can you see how you get in the Cult's ethics?

Go PUBLIC!!

[h=2]Real Estate and Property Info[/h] [h=3]Property Information[/h]
Zip code:63104
Owner name:CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI
Owner mailing address:6901 DELMAR BLVD
City/state/zip:ST LOUIS,MO 63130
Parcel number:21390002200
Property address: 2343 LAFAYETTE AV
*alternate addresses associated with this parcel
Year built N/A




[h=3]Images[/h]
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2343-2345 LAFAYETTE AV
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2343-2345 LAFAYETTE AV
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2343-2345 LAFAYETTE AV






[h=3]Parcel Information[/h]
Condominium: 0
Number of units: n/a
Frontage:n/a
Land area:36663
Property description:C. B. 2139 LAFAYETTE
175 FT X 209 FT 5 IN
A MEYERS ADDN
LOT 16 TO 22




[h=3]Land Use Information[/h]
Class code: Commerically Assessed
Land use: Commerical
Zoning: B. Two Family Residential
Redevelopment code:n/a
Vacant lot:unknown





The assessed value reflects the parcel/property as it existed on January 1 of the appropriate assessment year. Any changes made to the parcel/property after January 1st will be reflected after the next reassessment of the property.
[h=3]Assessment Information[/h]
Assessed land:$70,400.00
Assessed improvements:$453,600.00
Assessed total:$524,000.00
Appraised total: $1,637,500.00




Assessed land:$70,400.00
Assessed improvements:$433,400.00
Assessed total:$503,800.00
Appraised total: $1,574,400.00





[h=3]Sale Information[/h]
Sales date:
Sales price:
Book Location (Recorder of Deeds Data)
Daily date:04/05/2007
Daily number:42
Book number:0000
Page number:0







[h=4]Sales History[/h]
Sales date
Sales Price
03/15/2007 $1,600,000.00
06/16/2006 $800,000.00


[h=3]Real Estate Tax Summary[/h] For Parcel: 21390002200 - 2343-2345 LAFAYETTE AV
Below is the payment history for each of the last three (3) years. If there is a balance on a property you own, and you wish to make a payment online, write down the eleven (11) digit parcel number before proceeding to the Official Payments online tax-payment system.
Tax YearSpecial Business District TaxLateral Sewer FeeCommercial SurtaxTotal Original TaxAmount PaidBalanceDate Posted
2014$0.00$0.00$8,593.60$48,339.00 $48,339.00 $0.00 12/11/2014
2013$0.00$0.00$8,593.60$48,351.58 $48,351.58 $0.00 01/10/2014
2012$0.00$0.00$8,262.32$46,034.22 $46,034.22 $0.00 01/09/2014


Here are the facts from 2010-2013, when the Church of Scientology did not pay the real estate taxes for 3 years. The members paid hefty fines and penalties.

2343-2345 LAFAYETTE AV
Zip Code63104



AldermanPhyllis Young -- Contact
CongressmanDistrict 1 -- William L. Clay, Jr. -- Contact [lacyclay.house.gov]
State RepresentativeDistrict 79 -- Michael Butler -- Contact [www.house.mo.gov]

Owner name:
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF MISSOURI
Owner address:6901 DELMAR BLVD
City/state/zip:ST LOUIS,MO 63130


Tax Year
Special Business District TaxLateral Sewer FeeCommercial SurtaxTotal Original TaxAmount PaidBalanceInterest
PenaltyRecording FeeTotal BalanceDate Posted
2013$0.00$0.00$8,593.60$48,351.58 $0.00 $48,351.58 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $48,351.58
2012$0.00$0.00$8,262.32$46,034.22 $0.00 $46,034.22 $8,286.16
$920.68 $0.25 $55,241.31
2011$0.00$0.00$8,262.32$44,571.19 $0.00 $44,571.19 $16,045.63 $891.42 $0.25 $61,508.49
2010$0.00$0.00$8,013.04$41,817.81 $41,817.81 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 12/22/2010


Total Amount Due For this Account:
$165,101.38




According to the website, the Church of Scientology Missouri owns property located at 2343-45 and 2351 Lafayette, St Louis, MO 63104 and they also own 6901 Delmar, St Louis, MO 63130.

Public records reveal an approximate $1,000,000 mortgage on the Delmar property which they purchased years ago.

"Ideal Org Scam - How to Get Rich Using Other People's Money" A program that David Miscavige enforced on cult members - all to line his John Lobb shoes and Armani Ecclesiastical Pockets!

The buildings were bought in 2007 is still sitting vacant after 8 years. There is a website to look up the history of taxes and the City of St Louis did not go for the "we are a church, so we don't pay taxes SCAM".

The Cult of Scientology in St Louis pays about $60,000 per year in real estate taxes for the two properties.

2351 Lafayette, St Louis, MO 63104

Sales dateSales PriceTransaction TypeExplanation
11/05/2007 $495,000.00
Tax YearSpecial Business District TaxLateral Sewer FeeCommercial SurtaxTotal Original TaxAmount PaidBalanceDate Posted
2014$0.00$0.00$2,077.88$11,688.08 $11,688.08 $0.00 12/11/2014
2013$0.00$0.00$2,077.88$11,691.12 $11,691.12 $0.00 01/10/2014
2012$0.00$0.00$2,077.88$11,577.09 $11,577.09 $0.00 01/09/2014
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
[h=4]Sales History[/h]
Sales date
Sales Price
03/15/2007 $1,600,000.00
06/16/2006 $800,000.00

I find it interesting that the building was bought in 2006 for $800K, and then sold nine months later to Scn for double that. I would be very curious to find out details of the entity which sold the building to Scn at a 100% markup. I smell something here....
 

Intentionally Blank

Scientology Widow
I find it interesting that the building was bought in 2006 for $800K, and then sold nine months later to Scn for double that. I would be very curious to find out details of the entity which sold the building to Scn at a 100% markup. I smell something here....

Yep. Same thought here.
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
New construction at Church of Scientology Kansas City Ideal Org

New construction at Church of Scientology Kansas City Ideal Org.

Kansas City Pitch: New construction at Church of Scientology Kansas City Ideal Org

http://www.pitch.com/news/blog/2063...ding-in-the-crossroads-but-for-what-who-knows

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Some type of construction work is being done at the Scientology building in the Crossroads. But for what, who knows?

By Steve Vockrodt, Kansas City Pitch, May 2, 2016

For nine years, this newspaper has asked the same old question: When is the Church of Scientology going to do something with the cool building it bought in the Crossroads Arts District?

Answers are never forthcoming from the secretive religion.

Scientology bought the former City National Bank building at 1801 Grand in 2007 for a shade higher than $5 million. The building is supposed to become what the church calls an "Ideal Org." Ideal Orgs exist in various places around the country and seem to be central places of activity for Scientologists. While these temples have come to fruition in some cities, North America is dotted with buildings that were supposed to become Ideal Orgs but sit empty or underused today. Kansas City is one of these places.

Last year, The Pitch reported that the building showed signs of neglect and few indications that the building was being used by local Scientologists. The nexus of local Scientology exists at the northeast corner of 39th and Main streets.

Since last year's report, a few of the building's broken windows have been fixed. Still, there are few signs of more meaningful activity. That was until last week, when a blue porta potty could be seen on the roof of 1801 Grand from The Pitch's offices.

Upon closer inspection, it's clear that some kind of roof work is being done. So we asked the Church of Scientology again: What's going on with the Kansas City Ideal Org? So far, we have no answer.

City records show that two work permits have been pulled to do construction there. Nonetheless, little, if any, religious activity is apparent at 1801 Grand.

It matters because Scientology has paid hardly anything in real estate taxes in what's otherwise prime real estate in the Crossroads since 2007. Scientology is recognized as a religion by the Internal Revenue Service (although vocal critics of the faith regard it as little more than cynical money-grab for church executives at the expense of lower-rung followers who pay princely sums to the institution).

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CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Scientology states it doesn't plan to sell Grand Boulevard building in Kansas City MO

Scientology states it doesn't plan to sell Grand Boulevard building in Kansas City, MO.

The Pitch: Scientology speaks! Church indicates it doesn't plan to sell its building on Grand Boulevard

http://www.pitch.com/news/blog/2078...lan-to-sell-their-building-on-grand-boulevard

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Last week I got a tip about how the Church of Scientology was planning to sell the building it bought in 2007 at 1801 Grand.

It was a tantalizing piece of news because this newspaper for years has wondered when Scientology was going to get around to doing something with the City National Bank building. Since buying the building — one in which UMB Bank got its start— in 2007, there have been few, if any, signs of activity at the building. Meanwhile, it pays no property taxes — an exception being taxes earmarked for the streetcar — because it's supposedly being used for religious purposes.

It's a cool building in a prime area of real estate. I've heard there's a neat bank vault in the basement and that the bank lobby on the ground floor makes for a beautiful entrance.

I called around to see if anyone else had heard the same information and learned that some knowledgable people were aware of the rumor.

Efforts over the years to get Scientology to provide detail about what they plan to do with 1801 Grand have been met with silence.

Until Tuesday! I reached out to the public affairs operation at the Church of Scientology once again to relay the tip I'd gotten and to see if it would confirm. Their response was vague and suggested that Scientology doesn't plan to put the building on the market.

"The local Church is still engaged in fundraising for the completion of its new Ideal Church of Scientology and the expansion of the Church’s activities Kansas City," reads an e-mail response to The Pitch from Scientology's media relations department.

OK. That's been going on for nearly nine years. Does the church have a timeline for wrapping things up?

"We are not prepared to make a statement on that yet, but we will let you and the other media know when we do," reads a followup response.

So there you have it. Scientology says it's still in fundraising mode in Kansas City.


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Knows

Gold Meritorious Patron
Interesting. By the building being owned by Scn, it allows the building to be "parked", exempt from taxes. This allows the property to be held, and then potentially sold when the market improves, much more cheaply than if the property was held by a private individual who had to pay taxes on it.

Most cities require an occupancy permit (which means the Church of Sciendollatry would have to get the renos done and receive a permit to "occupy" it)

Otherwise Organization's that call themselves "CHURCHES" - that enjoy the benefits of Tax Exemption and Religious Cloaking could get away with criminal acts like buying shit loads of real estate, by bankrupting their members, and just holding the assets, not having expenses like other normal investor's, and just waiting until they need to liquidate so they have more money for lawyers and private investigator's to sue parishoner's that are upset cuz they got ripped off and betrayed....it Keeps Scientology Working!

Oh..that is right.....Scientology already does all of that ! :ohmy:
 
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cleared cannibal

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Some of my daily spam. They have been making a big push the last 6 mos or so. I have never been in the KC org or had any dealings with them. Not sure why I am getting all these things.

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