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Karen De La Carriere's Career in the Defense Department

Discussion in 'Office of Special Affairs' started by Alanzo, Sep 23, 2019.

  1. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    Please see my amended comment.
  2. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    Please see my amended comment.
  3. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    Still looks the same to me?

    I asked you two question, not closed, and made a bunch of statements.

    You don't need to ask me a bunch of closed question to make me redefine what I typed. I stand by it.
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  4. Lulu Belle

    Lulu Belle Moonbat

    Well, since you brought up Emma....

    Do you feel she agrees with
  5. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    Why would you ask me this question?

    Emma is quite capable of speaking for herself here. And has.


    You're pretty sneaky, aren't you, Lulu?
  6. Lulu Belle

    Lulu Belle Moonbat

    Just curious as to what you would say.
  7. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    I'll bet. You got your own little crusade going here, don't ya?
  8. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    Last edited: Sep 28, 2019
  9. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    That "Indy OSA Op" was seven years ago. It was discussed then.

    I'd have no problem with mentioning it, even now, if it served some purpose, but all it would do is assist you in your warped and manipulative game playing.

    Do you have Stockholm syndrome?

    Do you dream of having a little Scientology Mission somewhere in the Midwest?

    No matter how many blows you (as a "perimeter defense" pretend critic) strike against the enemy ("anti-Scientology"/"ASC"), you'll never be allowed back.

    They'll never let you back in, Alanzo, no matter how hard you try.
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  10. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    It was Karen and Jeffrey wasn't it?

    And the target of their Indy OSA Op was you.

    Isn't that the truth, Veda?
  11. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Anyone can search the archives and find out for themselves.

    Not interested in playing your game, or being one of your pawns.
  12. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    What keywords would people need to search to find out it was Jeffrey and Karen who contacted your landlord to get you to quit criticizing L Ron Hubbard and the Scientology Tech directly in order to intimidate you?

    See, Veda, they tried to do similar things to me back then.

    I, infamously, rebelled. And in fact, I've never complied with them.

    Why are you so compliant with their wishes now?

    Why are you still covering for them?
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2019
  13. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    Thanks for admitting you are on a crusade and not for the pleasantries of hanging out with old friends. Oh that's right, you....
  14. Hypatia

    Hypatia Pagan

  15. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    Do you have anything to add here?

    Have you worked with Jeffrey and Karen to intimidate and destroy critics of Scientology too?
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  16. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    I'm a free man.

    You, on the other hand, work for Scientology Inc. now - whether that's a formal arrangement or only in your imagination, is anyone's guess.

    I refuse to assist you in any way.

    "You have zero effect" | Ex Scientologist Message Board
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  17. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    I see.

    So Karen and Jeffrey contacted your landlord back in 2012 to try to get you to stop criticizing Hubbard and the tech of Scientology, and you never exposed that this happened.

    And so now, after Karen and Jeffrey have taken over so much of the discussion of Scientology on the Internet, where no discussion of David Miscavige's and Mike Rinder's criminality is allowed, you comply.

    And you continually work to discredit anyone who would question Karen and Jeffrey - knowing all that you know about them.

    Got it.

    As a critic of Scientology, are you a "sell-out", or not?
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2019
  18. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Alanzo, give it a rest.

    Every time you post you become smaller and smaller.
  19. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

  20. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    Alanzo, you just can't help but keep making blatant statements that are false. Why is that? Do you have a hyperbolic enema stuck up your ass or something? No discussion of DM's crimes is allowed? pffft. And if you have crimes to discuss why don't you discuss them? Rinder, DM, whoever. Nobody is preventing the discussion of committed crimes. Please provide some backup to your statement that KDLC will not allow DM's crime to be discussed. I think you pulled that out of your butt.
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