I didn't go through the whole thread
Here are just raw thoughts.
$cientology pseudo-exteriorizations are, to me, only and solely a depersonalization phenomanon. I can clearly remember to be ''exterior , out of my body' for about one month...had few other pseudo-exteriorizations like going far into the sky..it was at Flag...(to escape the darkness)
I've seen many peeple who were too having pseudo-exteriorizations..
some of them gone psychotic ...
others looked like being in their bubble...particularly on OT3 - 7-8
some of them couldn't align their body to go through a door opening (me)
I came to think (in $cientology) the ''mind or soul or whatever'' is really brought out of synchronization with both mental and body..misaligned would be a best word.
That is mainly what $cientology can achieve...fucking the soul\mental\body harmony.
The Auditing, conditionning indoctrination sloop disturb their natural way of working synchronized
So I'd say $cientology pseuso-exteriorization is a phenomanon of misalignement of the 3 bodies.
.the loss of alignement create a sens of inhabiting 'aside' of this world.. because the 3 bodies arent ''here and now'' anymore....The body is in a place different than the mind is and the soul is lost somewhere else....in favor of brain and ego quest activities.
Later on, when persuing my buddhist studies and practice , especially the tantric initiations (which are very very special stuff) I had exteriorizations that are caused by the ''sudden awareness or the soul or whatever'' taking a huge expansion to reach other dimensions.
It's like if the souls is encountering a long orgasm of reaching others dimension never expected...
Thre is no time anymore..only infinite space.
Was to me totally different than $cientology ''exteriorization''
It is a complete different thing...there is no misalignement...it's more like inhabiting another dimensions as well as being here...It too happened, when I encountered death..very beautifull experience when the mind reach what we call ''paradises''...it's like a great awareness of soul going back home and the ''I am...'
The perceptive thing, uses in $cientology is, to my opinion, a scam...when we have such experience of ''being exterior'' the journey is reminded very ''crystal clear'' and we are so much impressed we never forgets what happened...It doesn't have anything to do with smell, hearing, touching but with the vastitude, the infinite , the greatness, the beauty, the infinite space, the movement, but more about the felling within the soul....
I think it would ressemble what some people experience with heavy drugs..but the mind an mentals are aware --one knows it's not an hallucination but a real journey into new worlds.
When it does happen people talk to me about it , its funny
a $cientologist would say :
""Hey, I had an exteriorization with full perceptions or whatever (LRH implants in the mind)
Other people who really had such of out of the body experiences would remain very private about it and just let slip a general idea about it..after we insist..because its something very intimate They woudl say something like :
' I had a strange experience - I think I went into another world, I entered\was in a new dimension..and that was beautifull and vast..'' and that is it!
(they usually say there is no words to describe it)
If I would be a dogmatic believer I would say this is what christians and buddhists call ''heavens'' When coming back from heavens people find we emanate something serene to the opposite of a bizaroid smile of glee, when coming back from volcanoes...
I don't have a clue if out-of body exeriences can conduct into 'hell' though as I really don't like heat and stay away of ugly guys having a tail!
* Music *
Heavens..I'm in Heavens...
:wink2:
uh ohhhhhhh here I go again.. THE MIND IS AN AMAZING CHARIOT............
" 5:49 PM 5/1/2015
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?39328-You-
can-be-invisible-too
regarding a post by Catarina
ON 'invisibility' as perceived reality
Doctoral student Zakaryah Abdulkarim shows how it is
possible to create an illusion of invisibility in the
lab. Credit: Staffan Larsson.
The power of invisibility has long fascinated man and
inspired the works of many great authors and
philosophers. In a study from Sweden’s Karolinska
Institutet, a team of neuroscientists today reports a
perceptual illusion of having an invisible body and
show that the feeling of invisibility changes our
physical stress response in challenging social
situations.
The history of literature features many well-known
narrations of invisibility and its effect on the
human mind, such as the myth of Gyges’ ring in
Plato’s dialogue The Republic and the science fiction
novel The Invisible Man by H.G. Wells. Recent
advances in materials science have shown that
invisibility cloaking of large-scale objects, such as
a human body, might be possible in the not-so-distant
future; however, it remains unknown how invisibility
would affect our brain and body perception.
The participant wearing a set of head-mounted
displays. Credit: Staffan Larsson.
In an article in the journal Scientific Reports, the
researchers describe a perceptual illusion of having
an invisible body. The experiment involves the
participant standing up and wearing a set of head-
mounted displays. The participant is then asked to
look down at her body, but instead of her real body
she sees empty space. To evoke the feeling of having
an invisible body, the scientist touches the
participant’s body in various locations with a large
paintbrush while, with another paintbrush held in the
other hand, exactly imitating the movements in mid-
air in full view of the participant.
“Within less than a minute, the majority of the
participants started to transfer the sensation of
touch to the portion of empty space where they saw
the paintbrush move and experienced an invisible body
in that position,” says Arvid Guterstam, lead author
of the present study. “We showed in a previous study
that the same illusion can be created for a single
hand. The present study demonstrates that the
‘invisible hand illusion’ can, surprisingly, be
extended to an entire invisible body.”
Make a stabbing motion
The study examined the illusion experience in 125
participants. To demonstrate that the illusion
actually worked, the researchers would make a
stabbing motion with a knife toward the empty space
that represented the belly of the invisible body. The
participants’ sweat response to seeing the knife was
elevated while experiencing the illusion but absent
when the illusion was broken, which suggests that the
brain interprets the threat in empty space as a
threat directed toward one’s own body.
Arvid Guterstam. Credit: Ulf Sirborn.
In another part of the study, the researchers
examined whether the feeling of invisibility affects
social anxiety by placing the participants in front
of an audience of strangers.
“We found that their heart rate and self-reported
stress level during the ‘performance’ was lower when
they immediately prior had experienced the invisible
body illusion compared to when they experienced
having a physical body,” says Arvid Guterstam. “These
results are interesting because they show that the
perceived physical quality of the body can change the
way our brain processes social cues.”
Henrik Ehrsson. Credit: Sune Fridell.
The researches hope that the results of the study
will be of value to future clinical research, for
example in the development of new therapies for
social anxiety disorder.
“Follow-up studies should also investigate whether
the feeling of invisibility affects moral decision-
making, to ensure that future invisibility cloaking
does not make us lose our sense of right and wrong,
which Plato asserted over two millennia ago,” says
principal investigator Dr. Henrik Ehrsson, professor
at the Department of Neuroscience.
This research was funded by the Swedish Research
Council, and the Söderberg Foundation.
View our press release about this research
Read a news article in New Scientist
And in the Washington Post
Publication
Illusory ownership of an invisible body reduces
autonomic and subjective social anxiety responses
Arvid Guterstam, Zakaryah Abdulkarim & Henrik Ehrsson
Scientific Reports online 23 April 2015, doi: doi:
10.1038/srep0983