Karma's a bitch: Int events

[Lulu Belle]

Any one of you who are familiar with my posts in this and other Scientology related forums has heard me get on my soapbox about Int events.

Any of you who were on staff probably know exactly what I am talking about.

DM got into a thing in the early 80s about having these massive events. Millions of dollars, thousands of staff slave hours and a whole lot of effort in general has been put into putting these things on. Month after month. Year after year.

The staff despise them. They rip the orgs apart. The cost of them results in unpaid staff who don't get fed.

And now what is biting Scientology in the ass more than anything?

Showing parts of one of these Int Events to the rest of the world.

Is that poetic justice or what?

 

[Alan]

Any one of you who are familiar with my posts in this and other Scientology related forums has heard me get on my soapbox about Int events.

Any of you who were on staff probably know exactly what I am talking about.

DM got into a thing in the early 80s about having these massive events. Millions of dollars, thousands of staff slave hours and a whole lot of effort in general has been put into putting these things on. Month after month. Year after year.

The staff despise them. They rip the orgs apart. The cost of them results in unpaid staff who don't get fed.

And now what is biting Scientology in the ass more than anything?

Showing parts of one of these Int Events to the rest of the world.

Is that poetic justice or what?

Hip! Hip Hooray! LB!

 

[Sharone Stainforth]

Is that poetic justice or what?

Hip Hip Hooray

 

[Tanstaafl]

I don't know if those events restimulated Nuremberg rallies or whole track implants; all I know is I hated them. Didn't LRH say that "We are all one" was an implant command? That's how the events came across - one mass with one mind - directed by DM.

They have all the spiritual quality of an episode of The Price is Right.

 

[Mick Wenlock]

Any one of you who are familiar with my posts in this and other Scientology related forums has heard me get on my soapbox about Int events.

Any of you who were on staff probably know exactly what I am talking about.

DM got into a thing in the early 80s about having these massive events. Millions of dollars, thousands of staff slave hours and a whole lot of effort in general has been put into putting these things on. Month after month. Year after year.

The staff despise them. They rip the orgs apart. The cost of them results in unpaid staff who don't get fed.

And now what is biting Scientology in the ass more than anything?

Showing parts of one of these Int Events to the rest of the world.

Is that poetic justice or what?

ah, sweet irony...

 

[Dulloldfart]

Mostly I enjoyed the events, as it was a break from the usual routine, plus we got to eat the food. Being in ITO, I never had to do call-in for them. I usually ended up being an usher or something, which wasn't too bad. Near the end of my stay (the last event I attended while in ITO was probably Auditor's Day 1995) the regging was getting worse, but it didn't affect me personally a great deal.

I did a small amount of event call-in at SH around 1983/4 when I was Tech Services, but after that I was suping so didn't have to do all-hands call-in.

I'm not challenging Lulu Bell's data at all. I have heard the same from others.

And yes, poetic justice.

Paul

 

[Div6]

Here is a link to Goebbel's "Total War" speech (translated to English), for a "datum of comparable magnitude".

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb36.htm


It is very enlightening. To wit:

"The movement has from its beginning acted in that way to master the many crises it faced and overcame. The National Socialist state also acted decisively when faced by a threat. We are not like the ostrich that sticks its head in the sand so as not to see danger. We are brave enough to look danger in the face, to coolly and ruthlessly take its measure, then act decisively with our heads held high. Both as a movement and as a nation, we have always been at our best when we needed fanatic, determined wills to overcome and eliminate danger, or a strength of character sufficient to overcome every obstacle, or bitter determination to reach our goal, or an iron heart capable of withstanding every internal and external battle. So it will be today. My task is to give you an unvarnished picture of the situation, and to draw the hard conclusions that will guide the actions of the German government, but also of the German people."


"SURVIVE!"

 

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

Scary.

 

[Veda]

I don't know if those events restimulated Nuremberg rallies or whole track implants; all I know is I hated them. Didn't LRH say that "We are all one" was an implant command? That's how the events came across - one mass with one mind - directed by DM.

They have all the spiritual quality of an episode of The Price is Right.

While less gaudy, similar events were occurring in Scientology long before Miscavige assumed his role as Scientology dictator.

As for "We are all one" being an "Implant," Hubbard said virtually everything was an "Implant."

 

[Little Bear Victor]

Now, believe it or not, the events were the HIGHLIGHT of life at Int, virtually the best part of it! They were the one day that you "got to see the fruits of your work." Not that this wasn't attempted to be damped by always making the announcement before we watched the event video that "DON'T watch this as a spectator -- watch it from your post viewpoint: what can you do to further this message and forward the programs announced at the event, etc, etc." And we had to give feedback immediately after every event, sent in writing to the Port Captain's Office. And if you had the "wrong" viewpoint (spectatorish; "wow how neat"), you would be pulled in by ethics. You were expected to say how you would forward Command Intention from your post as a result of seeing the event. Nothing forced there...

Of course, if you committed the mortal sin of falling asleep at a COB event (regardless of whether you had not slept in the previous week or not), you'd likely find yourself in a sec check.

Other than that, I enjoyed them, except perhaps for the last year or so, when just seeing DMs face was enough to cause unwanted emotions, pains and lowering of analytical powers.

 

[lionheart]

While less gaudy, similar events were occurring in Scientology long before Miscavige assumed his role as Scientology dictator.

As for "We are all one" being an "Implant," Hubbard said virtually everything was an "Implant."

The "Battle of Britain" event in the mid 70's was gaudy. The circus marque was done out like a WWII set and I know several others who attended and pondered like me that it sounded like a Nuremburg rally.

Of course it was all the evil Sibersky's fault and poor sweet Ron knew nothing about the evil being perpetuated in his name!

 

[Alan]

Now, believe it or not, the events were the HIGHLIGHT of life at Int, virtually the best part of it! They were the one day that you "got to see the fruits of your work." Not that this wasn't attempted to be damped by always making the announcement before we watched the event video that "DON'T watch this as a spectator -- watch it from your post viewpoint: what can you do to further this message and forward the programs announced at the event, etc, etc." And we had to give feedback immediately after every event, sent in writing to the Port Captain's Office. And if you had the "wrong" viewpoint (spectatorish; "wow how neat"), you would be pulled in by ethics. You were expected to say how you would forward Command Intention from your post as a result of seeing the event. Nothing forced there...

Of course, if you committed the mortal sin of falling asleep at a COB event (regardless of whether you had not slept in the previous week or not), you'd likely find yourself in a sec check.

Other than that, I enjoyed them, except perhaps for the last year or so, when just seeing DMs face was enough to cause unwanted emotions, pains and lowering of analytical powers.

If you fell asleep during an LRH lecture on the original Class VIII Course in Oct '68 - you were thrown overboard.

By orders from LRH.

Alan

 

[Tanstaafl]

If you fell asleep during an LRH lecture on the original Class VIII Course in Oct '68 - you were thrown overboard.

By orders from LRH.

Alan

Chick Corea certainly did (may not now, I don't know) have members of his touring band apply conditions after each gig.

What would Chick have to say about someone falling asleep in the middle of a Scott Henderson guitar solo (God forbid!)? Throw the audience member out of the gig, or assign responsibility to the guitarist?

Of course, it might just be a misunderstood chord or scale.

 

[Alan]

While less gaudy, similar events were occurring in Scientology long before Miscavige assumed his role as Scientology dictator.

Back in May '63, at one of the convention centers at the Albert Hall - I appeared as the star (I was a 7 Goal Clear.) with LRH, and Reg Sharpe - the purpose was to get English Scio's to do the SHSBC.

It was very low key - very simple.

Reg talked about Scio in business.

LRH talked about the SHSBC.

I talked about being a 7 Goal clear. (Which BTW was vastly superior in state to the later CC clear state.)

Alan

 

[Tanstaafl]

Alan, "7 goal Clear" just tells me how much shit you got rid of.
What could you be/do/have that others who had yet to reach that state could not? Didn't you get fed up of being asked what OT tricks you could perform or was everyone too polite to ask?

 

[Alan]

Alan, "7 goal Clear" just tells me how much shit you got rid of.

What could you be/do/have that others who had yet to reach that state could not?

Didn't you get fed up of being asked what OT tricks you could perform or was everyone too polite to ask?

The audience was fascinated, they asked a lot of questions - mainly on what new abilities did I have......the ability that really got the most laughter.....was the ability to easily get up in the morning

The next was: I could now be what I pretended I was

I talked about the Goals I had gone clear on - the one thing constant was the ability to easily be in the right place - at the right time - with the right people!

At that time we were still doing the GPM tech......thus goals clearing made sense - it still does.

Alan

 

[Mick Wenlock]

Now, believe it or not, the events were the HIGHLIGHT of life at Int, virtually the best part of it! They were the one day that you "got to see the fruits of your work." Not that this wasn't attempted to be damped by always making the announcement before we watched the event video that "DON'T watch this as a spectator -- watch it from your post viewpoint: what can you do to further this message and forward the programs announced at the event, etc, etc." And we had to give feedback immediately after every event, sent in writing to the Port Captain's Office. And if you had the "wrong" viewpoint (spectatorish; "wow how neat"), you would be pulled in by ethics. You were expected to say how you would forward Command Intention from your post as a result of seeing the event. Nothing forced there...

Of course, if you committed the mortal sin of falling asleep at a COB event (regardless of whether you had not slept in the previous week or not), you'd likely find yourself in a sec check.

Other than that, I enjoyed them, except perhaps for the last year or so, when just seeing DMs face was enough to cause unwanted emotions, pains and lowering of analytical powers.

wow LBV, that is the other end of the spectrum from me.

here was never, not once, any event that I ever went to tht I found to be anything less than a complete and utter waste of my time. They were boring or strident and utterly embarrassing with no sense of style whatsoever.

 

[Tanstaafl]

Thanks Alan. Interesting.

I think I'll concentrate on achieving the ability to get up, then get up in the morning, and finally, get up easily in the morning. You can't be too careful with gradients!

 

[lionheart]

If you fell asleep during an LRH lecture on the original Class VIII Course in Oct '68 - you were thrown overboard.

By orders from LRH.

Alan

Was that LRH's squirrel word clearing technique?

 

[Alan]

Was that LRH's squirrel word clearing technique?

LRH lost the ability to snap his fingers and say "come into present time!"