Kathy Braceland OTVIII

[Veda]

I understand your cynicism but can't share it.

Anything that gets people out from under the Co$ umbrella is, IMO, a good thing.

And I have not seen Mr Rathbun and Co. say that DM is the antithesis of Hubbard anywhere. Can you provide a quote please?

-snip-

http://martyrathbun09.wordpress.com/2010/01/04/kathy-braceland-los-angeles-independent I only occasionally comment on Rathbun. He doesn't much interest me. You must be even less interested. Do a find on "antithesis" if you can't be bothered reading the entire statement in his blog.

 

[Veda]

-snip-

If I were to be forthright about my experiences on and since OT 8 it would surely provoke even more ridicule and negation from you. I choose not to be a party to that. I respond in a manner that puts truth in the place of lies and misinformation when the mood takes me.

Perhaps if you (and some others) were less judgmental and opinionated about the subject, you might actually get a somewhat clearer picture of how things stand with the OT8s here on ESMB. I don't think attempting to negate and invalidate their viewpoints is working too well, do you?

Oh please.

If I thought something was important, and others would benefit from knowing it, I wouldn't be whining about "ridicule, negation and invalidation." I'd express my views.

 

[nexus100]

Anytime you poke me, Veda, you should know to expect a response.
You took a simple and accurate comment I made in response to Mystic's post about "feeling pitiful sorrow (for OT8s)" and used it to negate a fellow being.

That seems to be business-as-usual for you as far as I'm concerned.

Michael's experience on OT8 is quite different from my own (and others') experiences. It's simply a recounting of what he experienced.

If I were to be forthright about my experiences on and since OT 8 it would surely provoke even more ridicule and negation from you. I choose not to be a party to that. I respond in a manner that puts truth in the place of lies and misinformation when the mood takes me.

Perhaps if you (and some others) were less judgmental and opinionated about the subject, you might actually get a somewhat clearer picture of how things stand with the OT8s here on ESMB. I don't think attempting to negate and invalidate their viewpoints is working too well, do you?

Phooey. You are the one who decides to hide your ideas and opinions. If you can present a tangible vision of this place, do it, please. Otherwise you're just another apologizer for Hubbard garbage.

 

[Veda]

I understand your cynicism but can't share it.

Anything that gets people out from under the Co$ umbrella is, IMO, a good thing.

And I have not seen Mr Rathbun and Co. say that DM is the antithesis of Hubbard anywhere. Can you provide a quote please?

-snip-

I just looked at this again. To clarify:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/antithesis

That Miscavige is the antithesis of Hubbard is a theme that permeates Rathbun's blog and views.

Is that news?

 

[scooter]

I just looked at this again. Are you asking for a quote where Rathbun uses the word, "antithesis"?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/antithesis

That Miscavige is the antithesis of Hubbard is a theme that permeates Rathbun's blog and views.

Is that news?

You obfuscate badly, mate.

Rathbun has stated that DM does the opposite of what Hubbard SAYS, but has never directly contrasted the two as personalities and, what's more, YOU know this yet try sophistry to cover your lack of proof.

And do you gloom when Rathbun announces someone else out of the cult because it's Rathbun announcing it? Seems so.

You have still failed to answer my questions.

Do your homework rather than rely on generalities and I might just find you worth listening to. You used to be a lot more precise in your arguments and I respected you for that, even if I disagreed with what you said.

We are actually all trying to end a stupid, abusive cult - yes, even Marty is working on that despite what rumours abound about him. Argue intents if you must but label them as your opinions please.

 

[Veda]

Questions? You asked one question. I answered it.

 

[Panda Termint]

Oh please.

If I thought something was important, and others would benefit from knowing it, I wouldn't be whining about "ridicule, negation and invalidation." I'd express my views.

Phooey. You are the one who decides to hide your ideas and opinions. If you can present a tangible vision of this place, do it, please. Otherwise you're just another apologizer for Hubbard garbage.

Do either of you really believe that?

If so, you're assigning non-existent values to what I actually said.

Veda, you poked me, I called you on it; get over it.

I don't owe either of you the time of day let alone insight into my personal beliefs.
I share these with people I love and trust. That's not you.

Bye.

 

[nexus100]

Do either of you really believe that?

If so, you're assigning non-existent values to what I actually said.

Veda, you poked me, I called you on it; get over it.

I don't owe either of you the time of day let alone insight into my personal beliefs.
I share these with people I love and trust. That's not you.

Bye.

Baloney. You're on this board. You don't get to step off Mt. Olympus and meddle with the little folk, then step back up. You don't love us? How OT is that?

I love you enough to see if there can't be a way to nettle through that shell you've got on. But I tell you what. If you stay up there in the stratosphere you can believe anything you want. Step down, get challenged.

Or ignore. I don't recommend it but Emma put it here for a reason.

 

[Panda Termint]

The statement is "love and trust". I love you, no doubt about it.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Step down, get challenged.

If you want to go around challenging others try WWP's "Thunderdome". ESMB is for ongoing dialogs.


Mark A. Baker