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Katie Holmes Finally Dumps Tom Cruise (and hopefully Scientology)

Lulu Belle

Moonbat
I don't know about Suri "living at Gold"; that's kind of out there. But, I can see that a lot of this may be true. Especialy the part about Bella being watched.


http://laineygossip.com/Articles/De...e-Holmes-away-from-Tom-Cruise-and-Scientology


Katie vs Xenu

July 2, 2012 Posted at 11:39 AM

Scientology is being blamed for the breakdown. Specifically, Katie’s desire to block the Church from turning her daughter into the Little Sci. What started it though, according to my sources, is Katie’s desire to live in New York full time. She’s been pushing for it for over a year. Tom was against it. And, well, he then apparently tried to block it. TMZ is reporting that Tom was thinking of sending Suri to the Sea Org.

But was there a “big bang moment”, something that finally sealed it for Katie, setting everything else in motion? I’m told that it was when Katie heard Isabella and Connor talking to Suri about the Gold Base, by Hemet in California. The Gold Base is not the boat you’ve been hearing about; it’s the “resort”, guarded like a military facility, accessible only to those who’ve reached the highest levels of Xenu understanding. Word is Tom thought that would be a good place to start off Suri because it was close enough to LA and Katie could come around on visiting days.


And then of course there’s how Katie observed Isabella. As Tom’s older daughter, watching Bella gave Katie some insight into what life would be like for Suri. Bella has a boyfriend now and they’re living together. Unbeknownst to Bella, Tom allegedly has them followed. Not by security, not for protection, but by a Scientology member trained in surveillance from the same squad that’s mobilised whenever the Church wants to discredit or attack an adversary.

They told Katie it was in Bella’s best interests, to make sure she wasn’t being taken advantage of. But it made her increasingly uncomfortable. She slowly started opening up about it with her mother. Her mother kept her father informed. And as she grew closer to her family again, she pushed away Tom’s influences. Like his sister. Us Weekly reports in its latest issue that Katie cut off Lee Anne DeVette about a month ago. DeVette was Katie’s babysitter for a while. And, as I reported last Friday - click here for a refresher - she’s replacing her staff so that she can get away from people on Tom’s payroll. According to Us, she’s also secured her own NY apartment for $12,500 a month. As soon as she was able to confirm a residence, she then engaged her old team and a new lawyer, quickly, turning it around in less than a week, and finally cutting off Tom on Wednesday. As previously mentioned, that’s when she stopped taking his calls.

(read the rest at link above)
 

Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
OSA hired goons to do a " noisy investigation " ? Now, that can't be right can it. A church would never do such a thing.

And those who say next confidential very personal information from her confessionals will be published are just lying SPs as the xhurch would never do sucj a thing as publish leak & publish that !

Katie knows what kind of group she got involved in and the group is about to tell their true nature to a whole lot more people who were unsuspecting.

These guys are world class foot bullet artists !

But, to the orginal question, NO the church did NOT do the dirty work - they hired goons to do that ( and think that allows them " clean hands " ).
 

Infinite

Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
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Interesting analysis, also from Lainey's Entertainment:

. . . But it’s impressive, Katie’s strong position, isn’t it? Do not worry about this turning into Sad Smut. She’s blown this sh-t so wide open, at this point, they really can’t touch her. On the contrary, they better hope she thrives, that she’s well, because she so much as breaks a nail right now and they are f-cked. Katie Holmes is playing his ass. Katie Holmes is a BALLER. And so far, all of her moves have been undercover. Can you imagine if she decides to go overt with the operation?

That’s the message she’s sending him: do not fight me on Suri because this is just the beginning - people are blaming your religion already and I haven’t even opened my mouth; can you imagine what will happen if I step outside with tears in my eyes, and our daughter, terrified, in my arms? . . .

Putting armed men outside her apartment to hassle neighbours, as per KSW Standard L Ron Hubbard Scientology Scripture . . . at a time like this . . . keep it up, Scilons.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
TC's In Laws

For a Scn'ist, and all that, TC has sure pulled in some bad inlaws for a CofS member to have- especially one whose every move is scrutinized.

One inlaw- a "psych" (Kidman

Another- a lawyer.

OMG! :omg:
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
This morning TMZ is reporting that Suri really did get regged for the SO and that was Katie's last straw. And why she wants full legal custody. They even did an OK job describing the SO (billion year contract, paramilitary, kids as young as 5), but left off some of the crazier shit (RPF, forced abortions, working conditions).

Even so, if TMZ has raised the subject of the SO, mainstream Scientology-bashing has just evolved to a whole new level of fail for the Co$.

If that's true- and I say "if" since TMZ can get things wrong- I take back every single thing I said about TC seeing his kid.

If it's not true, then I don't.
 

TG1

Angelic Poster
Assuming that report is true about five burly guys, two of them armed, lurking outside Katie's NYC apartment and 'interrogating' people who pass by or go into or out of the building ...

Something's smelling funny here.

This is (gulp) too obvious, even for the 'church'. (I know, I know ... I can hear everyone going, "Yeah, but it's the Church of Scientology!")

Nonetheless, to my eyes, this is over the top burlesque, running a cheap Scio PI caper in the middle of the biggest news story on the planet!

I think somebody else might be writing this script. Tom? Katie? Both? Any of their lawyers? Rathbun and Rinder? Murdoch? All of them working together?

And if I'm right, when this is over I want freakin' credit!

TG1
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
If that's true- and I say "if" since TMZ can get things wrong- I take back every single thing I said about TC seeing his kid.

If it's not true, then I don't.

I was joking over the weekend when I said I bet Suri was regged for the SO. I mean shit, she's 5 and famous. But TMZ says she was. Jeez.....

And I know they don't have 100% accuracy, but they do a better job than most imo.
 

Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
Assuming that report is true about five burly guys, two of them armed, lurking outside Katie's NYC apartment and 'interrogating' people who pass by or go into or out of the building ...

Something's smelling funny here.

This is (gulp) too obvious, even for the 'church'. (I know, I know ... I can hear everyone going, "Yeah, but it's the Church of Scientology!")

Nonetheless, to my eyes, this is over the top burlesque, running a cheap Scio PI caper in the middle of the biggest news story on the planet!

I think somebody else might be writing this script. Tom? Katie? Both? Any of their lawyers? Rathbun and Rinder? Murdoch? All of them working together?

And if I'm right, when this is over I want freakin' credit!

TG1

I think most people miss just how completely "right " the person running this " caper " really is . This is being running on 100% pure standard tech of LRH . It can not fail ! It never has ! It never will ! never fear the SO is here !

However, to most people this OSA op is coming off as stoned ass clowns.

Remember the might of the squirrel busters in paddle boats ? Or the power of Marty with a garden hose ?

Yep. They are that completely & utterly stupid ... in public.
 

Sindy

Crusader
I don't know about Suri "living at Gold"; that's kind of out there. But, I can see that a lot of this may be true. Especialy the part about Bella being watched.


http://laineygossip.com/Articles/De...e-Holmes-away-from-Tom-Cruise-and-Scientology


Katie vs Xenu

July 2, 2012 Posted at 11:39 AM

Scientology is being blamed for the breakdown. Specifically, Katie’s desire to block the Church from turning her daughter into the Little Sci. What started it though, according to my sources, is Katie’s desire to live in New York full time. She’s been pushing for it for over a year. Tom was against it. And, well, he then apparently tried to block it. TMZ is reporting that Tom was thinking of sending Suri to the Sea Org.

But was there a “big bang moment”, something that finally sealed it for Katie, setting everything else in motion? I’m told that it was when Katie heard Isabella and Connor talking to Suri about the Gold Base, by Hemet in California. The Gold Base is not the boat you’ve been hearing about; it’s the “resort”, guarded like a military facility, accessible only to those who’ve reached the highest levels of Xenu understanding. Word is Tom thought that would be a good place to start off Suri because it was close enough to LA and Katie could come around on visiting days.


And then of course there’s how Katie observed Isabella. As Tom’s older daughter, watching Bella gave Katie some insight into what life would be like for Suri. Bella has a boyfriend now and they’re living together. Unbeknownst to Bella, Tom allegedly has them followed. Not by security, not for protection, but by a Scientology member trained in surveillance from the same squad that’s mobilised whenever the Church wants to discredit or attack an adversary.

They told Katie it was in Bella’s best interests, to make sure she wasn’t being taken advantage of. But it made her increasingly uncomfortable. She slowly started opening up about it with her mother. Her mother kept her father informed. And as she grew closer to her family again, she pushed away Tom’s influences. Like his sister. Us Weekly reports in its latest issue that Katie cut off Lee Anne DeVette about a month ago. DeVette was Katie’s babysitter for a while. And, as I reported last Friday - click here for a refresher - she’s replacing her staff so that she can get away from people on Tom’s payroll. According to Us, she’s also secured her own NY apartment for $12,500 a month. As soon as she was able to confirm a residence, she then engaged her old team and a new lawyer, quickly, turning it around in less than a week, and finally cutting off Tom on Wednesday. As previously mentioned, that’s when she stopped taking his calls.

(read the rest at link above)

Whether this is all true or not, I am really starting to like Katie Holmes.
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
If you go to www.nydailynews.com right now, the Sea Org story is splashed all over the front page in a very prominent way. They picked a very infantile picture of Katie carrying Suri to go with the military theme.

Time to invest in popcorn futures.....
 

Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
[video=youtube;HjWuBYRB_h0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HjWuBYRB_h0[/video]

[video=youtube;up_KT42yiF8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up_KT42yiF8&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 

Daisy

Patron with Honors
Hubbard died in 1986, Suri was born in 2006. it is a good possibility that Tom believes Suri is the second coming. I know that sounds ludicrous but Tom believes he is all that.

Scientology would not want to lose Suri because there would be a chance that they would lose Tom and the future of scientology.

Remember when we thought we were all that and what was true for us was true. With Tom's ego, it is not that much of a stretch..
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
Oh stop bringing up your insane vendetta. He didn't even post here. Seriously. Fuck.

To those who are upset about what I wrote or whatever it is you're thinking

The "insane Vendetta" is not about Tom Cruise. I have no problem with criticism of Cruise. Fine with me.

It's about the umpteenth mention of another contributor on the forum in the post to which I was responding.

Had I snipped well enough, perhaps it would have seemed different than it did. So you've my apologies for that but not for anything else.
 

Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
Hubbard died in 1986, Suri was born in 2006. it is a good possibility that Tom believes Suri is the second coming. I know that sounds ludicrous but Tom believes he is all that.

Scientology would not want to lose Suri because there would be a chance that they would lose Tom and the future of scientology.

Remember when we thought we were all that and what was true for us was true. With Tom's ego, it is not that much of a stretch..

Apparently, there is not that much of a stretch for any scio to believe anything they are told !

How many people here knew someone who was - at one time - convinced the child they were carrying WAS LRH coming on back to clear this planet ?

We were goofy back then. The ones still in are still goofy.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
Hubbard died in 1986, Suri was born in 2006. it is a good possibility that Tom believes Suri is the second coming. I know that sounds ludicrous but Tom believes he is all that.

Scientology would not want to lose Suri because there would be a chance that they would lose Tom and the future of scientology.

Remember when we thought we were all that and what was true for us was true. With Tom's ego, it is not that much of a stretch..

This is an interesting idea about the possibility of Cruise thinking Suri is a reincarnation of LRH. There's a time when I'd have thought no way would he think that, but look how many ways he's been totally blind over the years. He may be the worst of any Scn celeb.
 

Sindy

Crusader
This is an interesting idea about the possibility of Cruise thinking Suri is a reincarnation of LRH. There's a time when I'd have thought no way would he think that, but look how many ways he's been totally blind over the years. He may be the worst of any Scn celeb.

Yes, I am frankly dumbfounded at how blind this guy appears to be. I agree, he is the worst. I really hope this starts waking people up.
 

Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
This is an interesting idea about the possibility of Cruise thinking Suri is a reincarnation of LRH. There's a time when I'd have thought no way would he think that, but look how many ways he's been totally blind over the years. He may be the worst of any Scn celeb.

There is a fairly short list of "scn celebs" but, sheesh, Karen Black or Kirstie Ally ought to get at least an honorable mention for being as bat shit crazy as xan be !

Anybody remember Kathie Lee Crosby ? Lee Purcell ? and - cripies - look over the list that played or sang with the apollo stars

Then there is Ann Archer ( clueless ) or that Pressley girl , uh, what's-her-name ?

And a few others, too.......how is JT doin these days ?

the stars are fading !
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
This is an interesting idea about the possibility of Cruise thinking Suri is a reincarnation of LRH. There's a time when I'd have thought no way would he think that, but look how many ways he's been totally blind over the years. He may be the worst of any Scn celeb.
.

Gawd, I can't wait to hear the legal argument for that one..... :hysterical:
 
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