Oh wow, I didnt know DM was 5'5"...LOL. That explains a lot 
http://www.google.ca/search?as_q=hw...w.,cf.osb&fp=4494a04bb48e86b0&biw=939&bih=582
http://www.google.ca/search?as_q=hw...w.,cf.osb&fp=4494a04bb48e86b0&biw=939&bih=582
Katie Holmes Finally Dumps Tom Cruise (and hopefully Scientology)
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Claire Swazey
Spokeshole, fence sitter
I don't believe he's as tall as that. Surely not.
Any of you guys who've actually met DM- didn't he seem more like 5'3" to you?
Any of you guys who've actually met DM- didn't he seem more like 5'3" to you?
The Anabaptist Jacques
Crusader
Oh wow, I didnt know DM was 5'5"...LOL. That explains a lot
5'5" in his heels, maybe.
The Anabaptist Jacques
Sindy
Crusader
Katie is an educated person from an educated family, and she's not a child -- she's past 30, been around a bit -- most people in the "business" of entertainment are, I think, a bit jaded, so...
Before Cruise came along, she was something of a hottie with a promising career in television, dated some male hotties, had some experience navigating the paparrazi and the pitfalls of working in that mileu. She's probably much more able to "read" people than people who have been trained to use Hubbard's ridiculous "tone scale" to analyze and predict the behavior of other people; I would guess that even if she was all starry-eyed about Tom Cruise for awhile, she still saw through Miscavige and all the other "celebrity" scio hangers-on right away.
Cruise has good looks, charisma, charm, and a reputation for being nice and hard-working; but let's not forget he's not all that well educated -- what does he know about the "real" world? maybe not much. He was once reported to be quite surprised that there were so many homeless people in down town L.A. (they're hard to miss if you get out and about much...) Apparently his "education" consists mostly of studying Hubbard's work.
Miscavige is an uneducated high-school dropout drunk on his power as the head honcho of a weird cult; and he's short and funny looking -- definitely not someone who would be comfortable smoozing at parties in the Hollywood scene with beautiful and sharp people skilled in the art of innuendo and reparte. I would guess Miscavige craves the invitations that will never come and that behind his back, if his name is ever mentioned at all, that mention draws snickers and shudders; and that when he enters a room full of the Hollywood crowd (if he ever does), suddenly people stop conversations and find they have to visit the powder room...
(poor little boy ... that kind of rejection, always being the outsider outcast looking in hungrily at the beautiful world you'll never be part of, would be enough to drive a person into the kind of kick-the-dog rages he is rumored to visit upon his juniors in the cult.)
Katie would have had a front row seat at this drama from which she could easily and quickly dope out the true character and frustrated longings of the poor dwarf, all the while beaming her practiced actress social smiles and keeping quiet about it.
One thing we know about Katie: she is able to keep quiet, keep things to herself; she doesn't have that running-at-the-mouth disease that infects many female "celebrites."
Meanwhile, educated and sharp daddy Martin Holmes, also practiced and skilled at keeping his clients' confidences and plotting strategies to attain favorable outcomes for them, is no fool, and -- unlike the Hubbardites -- knows what the word "research" really means. He's probably been researching Cruise, Miscavige, the cult and any of its major players and history, every since his little girl got involved. Would be no surprise at all if he had contacted a few savvy ex members and picked their brains.
I find this story immensely entertaining and I hope someone, someday, writes it up as a movie script, with liberal doses of imagination and of course, the usual disclaimer that "all characters and events are fictional and any resemblance to real persons is entirely coincidental...."
Hmmmm... if you don't hear from me for awhile, you could venture a guess about what I'm busy doing....
You would be well suited to do just that as this is an excellent, excellent post
Gadfly
Crusader
I think that is why he over-compensates by being such a HUGE asshole.
These two songs are ABOUT David Miscavige. Listen to lyrics. They are FUNNY!!!
Don't Want No Short Short Man (you KNOW what she is talking about, and she doesn't hide it)
[video=youtube;757Juix9sBg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=757Juix9sBg[/video]
And, he sure is Mr. Personality! He has got one REAL "ugly" soul.
[video=youtube;pA6QyV6ztVY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA6QyV6ztVY[/video]
See, there CAN be some value to "rap" music.
Mr. Personality
they call you mr personality because you so ugly
they call you mr personality because you so ugly
you so ugly
mr personality, you so ugly
mr personality, you so ugly
mr personality, you so ugly
when i look at you i go outta my mind,
its like im lookin at someones behind.
you make the children scream and babys cry,
with your crusty teeth and your bloodshot eyes.
you so ugly, your dad hadda tie a porkchop around your neck just to get the dog to play witcha
ooh thats ugly.
CHORUS
they call you mr personality because you so ugly...you so ugly
they call you mr personality because you so ugly...you so ugly
mr personality, you so ugly
mr personality, you so ugly
mr personality, you so ugly
no matter what you wear, your face doesnt match,
i dont think you were born, you hadda be hatched.
everyone you meet gets one hell of a stare,
they cant fall asleep cause your a walking nightmare.
you so ugly...i heard that when you were born, the dr slapped yo momma.
ooh man thats ugly.
CHORUS
you make frankenstein look like johnny depp,
and when you cross the street you cause a major car wreck.
you asked my grandma if she needed help with her bags,
ive never seen an old lady run so fast.
geez look at those glasses...are those coke bottles or something?
is that your face...or did your neck throw up something?
CHORUS
you so ugly
Mick Wenlock
Admin Emeritus (retired)
Well I would have to say that he struck me as being around the 5'5" range
Operating DB
Truman Show Dropout
Cruise is 5.7" and when you look at them standing next to each other side by side DM looks to be about 3 inches shorter. I don't know about the heel lifts though. If so he could be shorter than that.
Operating DB
Truman Show Dropout
That's the g-rated version. The real version she sings this lyric
"Don't want no short dick man".
I know. I used to listen to and dance to that song in the gay clubs back in the day. It's quite the humorous song! One of my favorites!
Claire Swazey
Spokeshole, fence sitter
I'm sorry to hear that, Mickster. I kinda wanted to stack the deck against him...like, he's soooo tiny....
But that's interesting. I know that on that video where he first took over CofS and was all nervous, he looked so very small...
But that's interesting. I know that on that video where he first took over CofS and was all nervous, he looked so very small...
Lulu Belle
Moonbat
He's pretty short. I'm 5' 5" and I would say he's, if not shorter than me, my height.
5'5" is pretty short for a guy these days. Maybe not a couple of generations ago. But now?
Short.
Claire Swazey
Spokeshole, fence sitter
(anxiously) ...but we can make fun of him anyway, right?
Mick Wenlock
Admin Emeritus (retired)
well I didn't rush over to him with a tape measure shouting "Hey, short arse! How tall are you, anyway?"
looker
Patron Meritorious
My My, I'm looking at Tom Cruz's new film trailer "Rock of Ages" The comments are heavily negative. Did any of you ESMB SPs have anything to do with that??
Its also amazing to me that Cruze and Travolta signed the "Clear" agreement that professing to be a clear one must hold themselves to a higher standard and not do anything that would bring a bad light on Scientology.
And. as a "clear" Should be example recognized in the community as a upright citizen promoting better conditions and morals.
Yet Travolta did a "Pulp Fiction" Movie which portrays a drug user and gang assassin. Tom Cruze plays a Drug addicted pervert in "Rock of Ages"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMA2u_OPzY
Its also amazing to me that Cruze and Travolta signed the "Clear" agreement that professing to be a clear one must hold themselves to a higher standard and not do anything that would bring a bad light on Scientology.
And. as a "clear" Should be example recognized in the community as a upright citizen promoting better conditions and morals.
Yet Travolta did a "Pulp Fiction" Movie which portrays a drug user and gang assassin. Tom Cruze plays a Drug addicted pervert in "Rock of Ages"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMA2u_OPzY
Lulu Belle
Moonbat
I seem to recall Kirsty Alley played a psych in some move a few years back. After years in a series where she worked in a bar.
Somehow I think their rules might be a little different than ordinary people's....
The Anabaptist Jacques
Crusader
Travolta in Pulp fiction wasn't promoting drug use.
It was a narrative of how when one bad guy has a change of heart (the bad guy being played by Samuel L. Jackson) that events change and the good guy (played by Bruce Willis) wins.
If Samuel L Jackson's character had not had an epiphany then he would have been with Travolta waiting at Bruce Willis' apartment and they would have killed Willis.
As it turned out, by him not being there, Willis got the jump on Travolta and was able to get away.
And then Willis saved the bad guy from the redneck. And that bad guy lifted the hit he had on Willis.
So the movie was about how good things come about when people change for the better.
I think it would be absurd to say that Scientology actors should never be the bad guy in a story.
The idea is that it should be a worthwhile message, and to get that message across a stor is told and in the soty there are good guys and bad guys.
The actors job is to play his part in the story as best he can.
The Anabaptist Jacques
Lulu Belle
Moonbat
The Anabaptist Jacques
Crusader
Is that the ol' "art-imitating-life" thingee again?
No, it's common sense.
The Anabaptist Jacques
Moosejewels
Patron Meritorious
Is it not strange to watch the smooth efficiency that this celeb-divorce course is running. Has Katies preparation overwhelmed Tom and his CoS cronies. Or was the plan in place for both sides prior to the action. Somethings just not right.
looker
Patron Meritorious
Moosejewels
Patron Meritorious
Well fine then..
Drinking Budweiser out of a white buckskin shoe whilst daughter Debbie dances on the bar doing shooters from a glass slipper!
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