Keeping Alan C. Walter In View

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation

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Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: acw 94, Out-of-ARC Processes

Alan Walter's views changed over time, and noticeably, they changed during his participation on ESMB. He, as he admitted, was still recovering from his involvement in Scientology.

Are you keeping that in mind, Ted?, or are you just posting everything?


I am posting everything I have on file. The conversations helped me at the time Alan posted. Even though his views changed, I would assume it would help someone at a stage of Scientology separation similar to mine at the time.

Consider that while Alan was continuing to separate out from his Scientology experience, and while he was developing his own language for Knowledgism, he was, on a.c.t., communicating to a bunch of ex-Scios. Using their language was assistive rather than inhibitive--in my estimation. Getting a firsthand account from someone who was "there" is also valuable. After Alan's comments on his Class 8 Course training, under Hubbard, I ceased having any desire to do that training. After his explanation of GPM processing, noting the pitfalls, my longstanding desire to do that vanished. I am actually glad the processing was removed from the lineup, and I am relieved that I was stopped from doing Class 8 training after about 30 minutes in the course room. This training was designed to make robots of otherwise fine auditors.

My own views continue to change. One view that I entered Scientology with remains. I still feel that some people are worth talking to, and some aren't. A good set of questions and an inquisitive, interested person following the attitude and limitations of an auditor is way more valuable than idle or mundane chit-chat.

I post out of respect for what Alan was able to accomplish, and for his experience which was far greater than mine. At the same time, anyone following the actual threads, available on Google archives, will see that I and others called "bullshit" when Alan stepped out into SuperSizing his claims.

I am nearly done with this.
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron

Veda

Sponsor
Re: acw 94, Out-of-ARC Processes

I am posting everything I have on file. The conversations helped me at the time Alan posted. Even though his views changed, I would assume it would help someone at a stage of Scientology separation similar to mine at the time.

Consider that while Alan was continuing to separate out from his Scientology experience, and while he was developing his own language for Knowledgism, he was, on a.c.t., communicating to a bunch of ex-Scios. Using their language was assistive rather than inhibitive--in my estimation. Getting a firsthand account from someone who was "there" is also valuable. After Alan's comments on his Class 8 Course training, under Hubbard, I ceased having any desire to do that training. After his explanation of GPM processing, noting the pitfalls, my longstanding desire to do that vanished. I am actually glad the processing was removed from the lineup, and I am relieved that I was stopped from doing Class 8 training after about 30 minutes in the course room. This training was designed to make robots of otherwise fine auditors.

My own views continue to change. One view that I entered Scientology with remains. I still feel that some people are worth talking to, and some aren't. A good set of questions and an inquisitive, interested person following the attitude and limitations of an auditor is way more valuable than idle or mundane chit-chat.

I post out of respect for what Alan was able to accomplish, and for his experience which was far greater than mine. At the same time, anyone following the actual threads, available on Google archives, will see that I and others called "bullshit" when Alan stepped out into SuperSizing his claims.

I am nearly done with this.

:)
 
Re: Let me help you out ...




Below, are the sites that contain everything you could ever want to know about "Knowledgism" ... (scientology that has been slightly fiddled about with) and the various contact details.

Can we stop this now?



:eyeroll:




http://www.advancedcoachingandleadership.com/index.html

http://www.knowledgism.com/login/nologin.asp?page=/main/know.asp&strQry=

No. :no:

If you don't want to participate then don't. That is called self-determinism.


Mark A. Baker
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
Re: acw 94, Out-of-ARC Processes

On the original catologuing of them by Homer, there are dates given by Homer, though that is not the exact date of Alan's posts, it is close. Here:
ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/acw/

R

Link not alive. Suggest go to Freezone America Links for more interesting stuff. Scroll down the colorful ledger to Homer aka Homie. Go beneath Big Files. Go to acw. I guess it might not be anywhere near as comprehensive as what Ted is giving us.

http://freezoneearth.org/links.html

http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive.cgi

http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive.cgi?/acw
 
Calling your imaginary friends "body thetans" is equally a cop out! If you have imaginary friends (or enemies), why not just be honest about it. Admitting of the difficulty is the first step in resolving it.

:coolwink:

Who puts(put) them there? Alan and practictioners/consumers of his services?
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire


It was Xenu wot dunnit.

He was (is?) a bit orrible like that.

Ted, Roger ... just out of interest ... what have you renamed the delightful Xenu, or was that bit of scientology too far fetched even for you?


:roflmao:

I think a lot of teck is a matter of explaining one's own magnificence....FWIW.
Or is it...........let my ego stand amazed at how skilfully it let it think it was outsmarting itself......but where is "me" in all that?......FIIK.
Is that unfair?
 

Oneflewover

Patron with Honors
I think a lot of teck is a matter of explaining one's own magnificence....FWIW.
Or is it...........let my ego stand amazed at how skilfully it let it think it was outsmarting itself......but where is "me" in all that?......FIIK.
Is that unfair?

No, it's not unfair. In fact It's a better question than any auditing question I've ever seen. "Where is "me" in all that?"

Answering that does more than all the bridging to new Clear and Oatee worlds combined. But you'll never answer it in the SCN context. It's way too screwed to permit an approach, despite all the ego stroking at the end of every level.

The higher you climb, the deeper you are submerged.
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
acw 95, What is Charge - What is Bypassed Charge?

Alan wrote:

WHAT IS CHARGE AND WHAT IS BY-PASSED CHARGE?

CHARGE is defined as stored energy or force emanating from a spiritual
being. It is outside time and space thus it is always here now.

Charge is used to impel the beings intention.

An Omni-Sovereign being takes a position that is capable of creating or
co-creating the emanation point A and the receipt point B. the impelled
particles that make up the intention or goals flow freely back and
forth between the point A's and B's.

If the impelled intention accumulates friction causing resistance the
beginnings of unwanted negative charge appears, if too much friction
the being will stop creating or being responsible for the point B.

The being drops from Omni- Sovereignty into the lower state of
Sovereignty.

At Sovereignty the being will encounter even more friction and counter
effort to its intentions, often to the degree that the being drops
below Sovereignty to an even lower state of becoming created as or
becoming an 'artificial me' that needs other determination to impel
them and their intentions.

This last state of having to rely on another to impel them is a
dreadful degraded state as that being is now so overwhelmed by negative
charge and feels so utterly degraded that they cannot hold a position
unless they sacrifice their Sovereignty and Omni-Sovereignty to the
being they have elected to have power over them.

BY-PASSED CHARGE is defined as the unwanted present time spiritual or
mental energy or mass that has been accessed by a present time
'slow' or 'stop' that by-passed or missed the real time charge
stemming from a more basic area of stored spiritual energy emanating
directly from the spiritual being or GAMES MATRIX.

All you are doing when handling BY-PASSED CHARGE is locating and
indicating the present time 'slow' or 'stop' that is
interfering with the spiritual beings ability to get their intention
and holographic vision (mock-up) to arrive and manifest as they want.

A 'slow' or 'stop' can be anything that impedes the beings
intention; it can be a counter intention, a mis-understood word, an
area of subject illiteracy, a wrong item, a wrong game, a fear, a games
package, a past incident matching present time, a lie, etc., etc.

An environmental 'slow' or 'stop' can be someone in front of
you is driving to slow, lateness, can't find car keys, not returning
a call, failure to show up on time for an appointment, not delivering
what was promised, or even a cataclysmic event like a plane crash or
being hit by an earth quake, hurricane or tsunami.

Masterful by-passed charge handling causes the being to un-become that
what they became. At that point of separation you get a sudden rise in
mood, the being is now bigger than what they became. As the separation
becomes more stable the being recognizes that they are not the
becomingness, thus become more themselves.

You are NOT fully handling charge. You are just moving it out of the
way so the client can get more present and here, now so that they and
their intentions, goals, and holographic visions (mock-ups) can arrive
as wanted

You are de-accessing or keying out the charge, that is occupying the
space that the being should be present in.

Full charge handling to erasure is a completely different subject, one
that Scientology has no workable technology to handle, it does not even
address the subject.

Yes, you get inadvertent bits of charge handled when you run a process,
but not the main area of charge.


TYPES OF CHARGE?

POSITIVE CHARGE is defined as stored spiritual power, energy or force
that contains positive thoughts, creativity, love, truth, harmony,
knowledge, responsibility, control, value and integrity.

Positive charge emanates from the spiritual being itself or from one of
the high Sovereign or Omni-Sovereign energy packages.

NEGATIVE UNWANTED CHARGE is defined as unwanted charge that has
accumulated from abrasive friction plus stored anti-spiritual power,
energy or force that contains negative thoughts, destructivity, hate,
lies, disharmony, ignorance, irresponsibility, no control,
worthlessness and incompleteness.

Negative unwanted charge emanates from a low sovereign or substitute
me's or artificial me's. It gets its destructive power from one of
the higher high Sovereign or Omni-Sovereign energy packages.


ENERGY CONTAINERS OR PACKAGES

They are very similar to a battery in that they have a Positive and a
Negative Polarity.

The definition of ENERGY leaves much to be known. At a spiritual level
the particles are life force particles. Further it would get very
tiresome if the static being had to continuously create life force
particles and postulate the impulses to direct the life force particles
to the receipt point.

Thus the being creates storage containers of life force particles,
these storage containers also contain imprinted patterns and packages
for the energy to move around. These are known mainly as a GAMES
MATRIX which contains all aspects of a game, its goals, visions,
identities, opponents, good or bad problems, solutions, good or bad
conditions and outcomes; but any creation can have the capabilities of
energy storage. A healthy, whole storage container can store, send or
receive huge quantities of life force particles.

The GAMES MATRIX energy containers are created by an Omni- Sovereign
spiritual being outside time and space and thus they are always here
now.

When a static being creates a three-dimensional, holographic creation
or mock-up these always contain the energy containers.

When two spiritually healthy beings make contact the flows of energy
exchanges effortlessly, a high mood level movement` back and forth.

Charge is vital to impel the particles of your intentions and their
subsequent holographic creations into any universe you so choose; but
especially the physical universe.

What is easily observable in life is the velocity of the life force
particles in motion, the faster the motion the higher the mood.

When you observe a high mood level being that enhances all they come in
contact with in operation you are observing the positive use of charge.
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
acw 96, Unwanted Charge and Pain

Alan wrote:

THE TWO MAJOR CAUSES OF UNWANTED CHARGE AND PAIN

Charge becomes a problem and begins to turn negative when the following
circumstances manifest:

1) ABRASIVE FRICTION.  This is the action of someone or something
causing slows or stops to your prime intention.

The abrasive friction can get more intense by someone or something
using counter-force, disruptive imagery, or rubbing or being in
conflict against someone or something.

Where you have abrasive friction you have a slow buildup of an
accumulation of unwanted charge and pain.  It can take years for the
accumulation of unwanted charge to build up to a level of pain that
produces a wanting or need to avoid the area.

Abrasive friction-caused unwanted charge and the subsequent pain is
caused by a subtle, gradual accumulation of unwanted charge until it
becomes pain and becomes unbearable, at which point you are forced to
be absent or leave the area.

2)  IMPACT.  This is the sudden forceful collision with someone or
something that is stronger or more powerful than you.  Such impacts
cause immense unwanted charge, pain, shocks and collapse universes.

When you are impacted suddenly, an area of unwanted charge and pain is
created.  That unwanted charge and pain can be so severe that it can
ruin your life.

Death of someone you love, the loss of a game, the loss of a partner, a
car crash, being fired, failing an exam, an explosion, constant abuse,
etc., etc., all cause overwhelming unwanted negative charge and pain.

That unwanted negative charge and pain can be impacted in the body, the
identity, the mind, or you, the spirit.  The most savage unwanted
negative charge and pain are impacted instantly in all four areas
simultaneously.

To fully erase this charge and pain requires several different
techniques.  All are easy to do, but require bravery, time, money, and
the commitment and intention to handle fully the source of the unwanted
charge and pain.

These are some of the subsequent consequences caused by friction:

3)  Heat caused by contact, abrasive friction, or impact.  Too much
heat causes unpleasant sensations.

4)  Cold, which is caused by a vacuum, distance, enforced separation
or low temperature.  Too much cold causes unpleasant sensations.

5)  Polarity conflict that is generated by the rapid changing of
particles backward and forward from positive to negative polarity in a
repeated, violent manner, causing unpleasant sensations.

6)  Electricity that is generated by the differing wavelengths of
life-force particles impacting or dispersing from an area.  Too much
electrical randomness can be extremely uncomfortable.

7)  Magnetism.  The constant compulsive or obsessive attraction or
repelling of life-force particles and holographic spiritual and mental
imagery into or away from a specific area of abrasive friction or
impact.  Too much inward pulling causes sensations of entrapment; too
much dispersal causes unpleasant sensations of scatteredness or
dispersal; the desperation of attempting to get in and connect but
cannot.  Either way, your ability to concentrate or focus your
attention and have your intentions and vision manifest themselves in
the exact place and time you want is greatly diminished.

8)  Trapped life-force particles.  Areas of unwanted charge and pain
are, in actuality, compressions of space, time, energy, and life-force
particles that are impacted inward in a specific place and time.

WHAT IS BY-PASSED CHARGE?

BY-PASSED CHARGE is defined as the unwanted present time spiritual or
mental energy or mass that has been accessed by a present time slow or
stop that by-passed or missed the real time charge stemming from a more
basic area of stored spiritual energy emanating directly from the being
or GAMES MATRIX.

MASS is solidified energy.

The accessing stems usually from the abrasive friction that a slow or
stop causes to the beings intention to complete what they are intending
to do now.

What the being is intending to do now is always connected (no matter
how far removed) to the being latest GAMES MATRIX creation.

Thus you when you get a slow or a stop to your present time intention
you get massive hits of unwanted energy and charge impacting your
present time existence.

Unwanted negative charge is purely spiritual in nature: It is not truly
case related; your case is an accumulation of solutions to handling
your unwanted negative charge.

Even a GAMES MATRIX is a mechanical solution created to handle the
problems caused by attempts to handle unwanted negative charge

The source of the by-passed charge that the individual is sitting in is
partially or wholly unknown to that individual and so is capable of
affecting him adversely.

In the presence of by-passed charge caused by a slow or stop, you get
an overwhelming jolt of energy far greater than the slow or stop
deserves, possibly the most common demonstration of the accessing that
a slow or stop can manifest is when you are driving and you have the
intention you must be at a certain place at a certain time, you get cut
of and slowed by another driver, instantly you get enraged. Some even
go so far as to kill the other driver. (It is commonly known as road
rage.)

The 'slow' accessed earlier times you had been slowed or stopped
- which in turn accessed and brought into the physical universe the
full force of the charged energy and power contained in a GAMES MATRIX.

The target of handling by-passed charge is to get exactly what is
triggering the GAMES MATRIX by locating and indicating what accessed
the GAMES MATRIX charge. That action alone will cause the GAMES MATRIX
to go back to its natural position.

When By-Passed Charge is present then the flow of energy changes
wavelength.  (Change of mood or emotional level.)

The content or significance of what the energy flow relays is not
meaningful.

By-Passed Charge present means there is something wrong with the
mechanical aspects of the energy container, pack or the carrier path or
lines.

There are numerous effects apparent when damage has occurred in this
area.

SHORT CIRCUIT = Client unable to communicate, unconscious, comatose,
usually in great psychosomatic pain and unpleasant sensations.  Client
not available.  Absent.

No path or lines to other terminals, no (itsa-maker or eductive line)
data access path reply.

INTERMITTENT SHORT CIRCUITING = Client very snarly, bad tempered,
attacking the processor, the tech, the subject, etc.  Negative identity
in control.  Client not there.

No path or lines to actual terminal in front of him, no (itsa-maker or
eductive line) data access path.

Constant wondering about case.

OCCASIONAL SHORT CIRCUITING = Sudden mood or emotion drops, roller
coaster. Client moving in and out, but uses mainly substitute identity.
Weak presence.

Low emotion or mood level.

Basically, anything at hate, anger or below is a sign that there is
by-passed charge.

This means the client is in a chronic negative identity.  A single pole
condition.

The processor is needed to cause the CHARGE to transfer from the
NEGATIVE to the POSITIVE.

The processor acts as a POSITIVE receipt point.  This causes the charge
to go into motion.  The motion causes the client to rise in emotion or
mood level.

A well trained processor who has command over his tools sees these
conditions immediately, and will not go into the main body of the
session until they are remedied.
 
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