Ken and Yvonne Schick Resignation

Mike Laws

Patron Meritorious
Wow, I know these guys, they are amongst the most successful in business and life people I ever knew in my scio life, increadibly well respected in both Austin Texas and Houston Texas.

They are good people.


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: from Ken and Yvonne



Dear Friends,

“For a thetan there are two very essential rights: One is the right to his own sanity, and the other is the right to leave a game.” LRH, PDC, Dec 3rd1952

Ken and Yvonne Schick hereby announce that we are withdrawing our support and leaving the organization of the Church of Scientology.

We know that we have both benefited from auditing and training we have received. We respect L. Ron Hubbard and believe that his intention to help his fellow man was sincere. We still consider ourselves Scientologists in that our spiritual beliefs about the nature of man and relationship with his fellow man and the universe are consistent with the principles of Scientology. Furthermore, we will continue the application of Scientology in our daily lives.

We know that the staffs at all the orgs are filled with very caring, very dedicated individuals who would do anything to help their fellow man.

Some of you receiving this are our closest friends in the world with whom we have shared play time, work, the ups and downs and joys of life. We realize that this decision will mean the end of our friendship with some. We will let you decide if that is your own determinism or one enforced upon you by others.

All of that said, we can no longer support what we feel the organization has become under the leadership of David Miscavige. We feel that LRH started a church for the purpose of bringing spiritual freedom to man and that Mr. Miscavige has morphed it into something else entirely that appears to be mostly about money and his personal aggrandizement. We have each personally experienced the “forbidden cognition”: that our church is declining, that there is an SP behind that decline, and that the SP is David Miscavige.

There has been no single incident or source that brought us to this point. Rather it has been years of personal experiences along with observation of events and data that finally started coming together. For most of the last 20 years, any doubts or reservations we had were categorized as something that would get handled eventually. We began to violate our own sense of personal decency and core values in order to be “on board”, “KSW-in”, members of the team.

More recently, we decided we must resolve our doubt and our evaluation led us to conclude that Miscavige has grossly altered LRH tech, has focused the largest percentage of the activity of the group on fundraising in one form or another, is intent on milking every dime out of every member, and (quite frankly) has gone psychotic. For any of you who want to know more about how we came to the decision, we suggest you think for yourself and look for yourself starting with the websites that report information Mr. Miscavige does not want you to have. We were especially moved by the letter written by OT VIII Luis Garcia. He did a very thorough job of documenting the exact points that were there for us. We recommend reading Luis’ letter; A Letter From Garcia. We also recommend: Friends of LRH, Leaving Scientology, and Marty Rathbun's blog.

Our decision is made. We do not welcome any handling from anyone who might feel so inclined or be so directed. If anyone shows up at our home unannounced and uninvited, we will assume it can only be a “mission” and you will be asked to leave with no further discussion. That said, we are not cutting our communication lines or disconnecting from anyone who wants to call us friend.

We do not know if retaliation will be unleashed against us. One factor that motivated us was the malicious attacks we saw against people who decided to leave the group. Perhaps you will be told how very “evil” we are. Perhaps information we gave in session or to an MAA assuming confidentially will be broadcast. Ask yourself, “What kind of church does this?”

To those of you who already know this just is not what LRH intended, we hope that our leap will give you courage to do the same for your own peace of mind.

To those of you who want to leave but feel trapped by family and business relationships, our hearts go out to you. Keep looking, stay true to your personal integrity, and you will find a way.

To those of you who remain loyal to Miscavige’s org, we ask that you simply LOOK. Just like LRH advised us. Look at the real results, not the PR. Look at the affects being created in the general public. It has been a downhill ride since that man took over LRH’s church.

We are grateful to the bold men and women who have had the courage to leave the church run by Miscavige and then speak out publicly so that the truth is told. We appreciate that there are committed individuals who want to keep alive LRH’s purpose and technology for helping others.

We wish all of you the brightest of New Year’s with all of the spiritual freedom you have dreamed of for the ages. “Flourish and prosper.” LRH, The Way to Happiness.

Sincerely, Ken and Yvonne Schick

OT VII completion and OT VIII
 

nozeno

Gold Meritorious Patron
Congratulations to Ken and Yvonne on their departure.

Now if they could only continue their examination of the so-called church of scientology they will see that the organization was always about Gross Income. It's just that it is more insane now than it was 35 or 40 years ago.

I don't want to burst their bubble... but there is no such thing as an SP or OT.

Oh, and Santa Claus isn't real either. :whistling:
 

SomeGuy

Patron Meritorious
I don't want to burst their bubble... but there is no such thing as an SP or OT.

Oh, and Santa Claus isn't real either. :whistling:

It is interesting they get all the way to David Miscavige is an SP and not ask how an SP gets a hold of their "church".

And bummer about santa.
 

nozeno

Gold Meritorious Patron
It is interesting they get all the way to David Miscavige is an SP and not ask how an SP gets a hold of their "church".

And bummer about santa.

That's an easy one.

The "tech" wasn't correctly applied. :duh:
 

Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
"Oh, and Santa Claus isn't real either". __________________

Uh oh. I got a problem. I hung a stocking. It got gifts in me. I thought it was from Santa. Uh oh. Something wrong here. Now I gotta find da "who" behind this.

Anyway, good on those folks for getting out. They saw enough to leave. Out of that group they will start to peel the onion snd see it all.
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
"Oh, and Santa Claus isn't real either". __________________

Uh oh. I got a problem. I hung a stocking. It got gifts in me. I thought it was from Santa. Uh oh. Something wrong here. Now I gotta find da "who" behind this.

Anyway, good on those folks for getting out. They saw enough to leave. Out of that group they will start to peel the onion snd see it all.

Or, they'll find a decompression chamber that maintains a happy atmosphere. Maybe they'll show up at the Training Center.

Zinj
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
This is a terrific letter and I am glad they are out. Many Scientologists will read this and we all hope that it will move then towards reason.

We exs started somewhere in our exit and the evolution that occurs from there is dependent upon looking as a first step out.

I give credit where credit is due on this and hope these people keep looking and their friends and loved ones take their good advise..
 

Boojuum

Silver Meritorious Patron
Wow

I don't know them but their letter shows such deep concern about doing the right thing. No doubt that sense of doing right was exploited.

Odd that they stop at DM, they need to keep reading the forbidden texts.

This is good news. I'm sure their lives will get dramatically better as they distance themselves from the indoctrinated mindset and open themselves up to new ideas and new solutions.:thumbsup:
 

AnonKat

Crusader
irony

I don't know them but their letter shows such deep concern about doing the right thing. No doubt that sense of doing right was exploited.

Odd that they stop at DM, they need to keep reading the forbidden texts.

This is good news. I'm sure their lives will get dramatically better as they distance themselves from the indoctrinated mindset and open themselves up to new ideas and new solutions.:thumbsup:


"Freedom is for honest people. No man who is not himself honest can be free – he is his own trap.”

- L. Ron Hubbard"

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Emma

Con te partirò
Administrator
I'm constantly amazed to read certain reactions to a letter like this.

Folks - THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

SO WHAT if they still consider themselves Scientologists 5 seconds after writing their doubt formula. SO WHAT if they haven't yet read the bazillions of web pages that undress Hubbard and expose him for a fraud. That will likely come in time.

Do you truly expect someone who has been in this cult for 20, 30 & 40 years to just pendulum swing overnight? Really? Well I'm here to tell you that the faster the swing, the more likely it is to swing back again.

Let people take their freaking time.

I hope these folks are brave enough to really dig into the truth about Hubbard and Scientology, but if not, at least they themselves are no longer beholden to a cult & cult leader. If that letter was sent to all their friends, it could REALLY get some heads turning.
 

AnonKat

Crusader
I'm constantly amazed to read certain reactions to a letter like this.

Folks - THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

SO WHAT if they still consider themselves Scientologists 5 seconds after writing their doubt formula. SO WHAT if they haven't yet read the bazillions of web pages that undress Hubbard and expose him for a fraud. That will likely come in time.

Do you truly expect someone who has been in this cult for 20, 30 & 40 years to just pendulum swing overnight? Really? Well I'm here to tell you that the faster the swing, the more likely it is to swing back again.

Let people take their freaking time.

I hope these folks are brave enough to really dig into the truth about Hubbard and Scientology, but if not, at least they themselves are no longer beholden to a cult & cult leader. If that letter was sent to all their friends, it could REALLY get some heads turning.

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Celt33760

New Member
I'm constantly amazed to read certain reactions to a letter like this.

Folks - THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

SO WHAT if they still consider themselves Scientologists 5 seconds after writing their doubt formula. SO WHAT if they haven't yet read the bazillions of web pages that undress Hubbard and expose him for a fraud. That will likely come in time.

Do you truly expect someone who has been in this cult for 20, 30 & 40 years to just pendulum swing overnight? Really? Well I'm here to tell you that the faster the swing, the more likely it is to swing back again.

Let people take their freaking time.

I hope these folks are brave enough to really dig into the truth about Hubbard and Scientology, but if not, at least they themselves are no longer beholden to a cult & cult leader. If that letter was sent to all their friends, it could REALLY get some heads turning.


I totally agree, Emma! Nearly five years out and I'm still having my realizations and HOLY SHIT moments about the cult and and the "teachings". I say nicely done for anyone who is observant enough to spot any of the outpoints and get the hell out of Dodge.
 

scooter

Gold Meritorious Patron
I'm constantly amazed to read certain reactions to a letter like this.

Folks - THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

SO WHAT if they still consider themselves Scientologists 5 seconds after writing their doubt formula. SO WHAT if they haven't yet read the bazillions of web pages that undress Hubbard and expose him for a fraud. That will likely come in time.

Do you truly expect someone who has been in this cult for 20, 30 & 40 years to just pendulum swing overnight? Really? Well I'm here to tell you that the faster the swing, the more likely it is to swing back again.

Let people take their freaking time.

I hope these folks are brave enough to really dig into the truth about Hubbard and Scientology, but if not, at least they themselves are no longer beholden to a cult & cult leader. If that letter was sent to all their friends, it could REALLY get some heads turning.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

That an OT VIII and an OT VII completion are publicly saying DM's an SP is wonderful news. This will echo through the scilon community big-time.

It's was months after "leaving" before I stopped trying to work out what auditing I needed to "fix up" stuff for me and others. It's a gradual process.

Well done to both of them and I wish them a wonderful journey to true freedom.:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation
Another 7 and an 8 ...

I totally agree, Emma! Nearly five years out and I'm still having my realizations and HOLY SHIT moments about the cult and and the "teachings". I say nicely done for anyone who is observant enough to spot any of the outpoints and get the hell out of Dodge.


Yes, it is great news.

Welcome Celt33760 (that is a simply brill avator BTW ... it's Vyvyan!)

Welcome also to Lori Hodgson.

:welcome2:
 

IMMORTAL

Patron Meritorious
This is TOTALLY AWESOME news!!! I'm so happy in their decision to leave.

I hope they will come and visit us, too. :yes:
 
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