KHTK Essays

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What is KHTK?

I wrote this post on another thread. This post outline some key ideas that define KHTK.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=477341&postcount=259

... just take the looking approach, which is essentially the Vipassana approach of Buddha. It is simply looking at what is already there and differentiating it from what one might be putting there. This approach requires no suppression, such as, blanking of the mind. This approach also does not require any judgment and effort...

Looking is totally non-judgmental and effortless. If one has to express what one is looking at, it simply becomes a problem of language. The limitations of expression comes from the limitations of language. Fortunately, in KHTK sessions, there is no requirement to express what one is looking at. One simply looks and that's that. The session is for oneself. One doesn't have to convert anything into language or words. If there is a KHTK guide, he doesn't need to know about what the client is looking at, or has looked at. There is no "auditing" done by the KHTK guide. There is only "looking" on part of the client. The guide simply makes sure that the client is looking.

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How to prepare for a KHTK session.

It takes very little training in KHTK before you will be able to help another person with the KHTK approach. Just read and understand the KHTK essays. If you have any questions you may contact me. This whole effort on my part is free.

Here are some tips.

(1) Let's say you want to help somebody you care for, or somebody has asked you for help.

(2) Tell that person you can help him look at his problems in such a way that he would then be able to resolve them successfully.

If the person is interested then continue with the following steps.

(3) Tell the person that you would be applying the KHTK approach that is described at the following link.

CONTENTS (KHTK)

(4) Do not ask that he study these materials. Just let him know that you would be happy to discuss these materials with him.

(5) Set up a time and place for the KHTK session. If the person is at a distant location, set up a time for a phone or Skype session.

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First KHTK session

Here are some of the things you may cover in your first KHTK session. A KHTK session is not structured at all. Keep it at the level of a simple conversation.

(1) If the student has any questions about the KHTK approach, answer them to the best of your understanding. Use references from KHTK essays where possible to answer his questions.

(2) Clarify the KHTK references as necessary using your own words. The student's understanding will increase as he experiences KHTK through the exercises.

(3) Read KHTK 1A: LOOKING: INTRODUCTION with him until you reach Exercise 1-1. Clarify any confusions through question and answer.

(4) Have him do Exercise 1-1 on noticing objects and thoughts. The exercise may be completed in less than a minute; but let the student take whatever time he needs. Keep any exchange very relaxed.

(5) Get across the point that looking does not require suppression of any thoughts arising in the mind.

(6) Go over the next section on LABELS and have the student do Exercise 1-2. Stay in good communication.

(7) Go over the next section on EVALUATIONS and have the student do Exercise 1-3. Stay in good communication.

(8) Go over the next section on CONCLUSIONS and have the student do Exercise 1-4. Stay in good communication.

(9) Go over KHTK 1B: LOOKING vs. THINKING with the student. Discuss the main points as necessary.

(10) Have the student practice Exercise 1-5 in your presence for 15 minutes or so. He may walk around if he wants.

(11) Get across the point that one looks at what is already there and differentiates it from what one might be putting there through thinking. There should be no suppression of any thoughts, feelings or emotions.

(12) Continue until the student feels that he can do Exercise 1-5 very comfortably on his own.

(13) Arrange for time and place for the next session.

NOTE: If the student wants to talk about his problem, simply encourage him to look at where his attention is at, and experience what is there (beyond those words) without resisting.

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(2) Tell that person you can help him look at his problems in such a way that he would then be able to resolve them successfully.

Only for men, is it? Also, what evidence do you have to support the implied 100% success rate?

 

[Zinjifar]

Only for men, is it? Also, what evidence do you have to support the implied 100% success rate?

By definition, if it wasn't successful you didn't do it long enough or you did it wrong. 'It' always 'works'.

By definition

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[I told you I was trouble]

Only for men, is it? Also, what evidence do you have to support the implied 100% success rate?

The same evidence that the cult uses from it's preclears ... (right up until they lighten up, grow up, leave the cult and speak freely).

 

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Only for men, is it? Also, what evidence do you have to support the implied 100% success rate?

The use of "he" and "his" is generic. You may substitute it with "she" and "her".

There is only hope and a desire to help. I have been able to help a number of people with it, but you don't have to take my word.

You may just try it. If it works for you then fine. If it doesn't work for you then reject it.

You may also use it as a stepping stone to find a better method. It is up to you.

CAUTION: KHTK is absolutely free. If you try to make money out of it then it may not work. Also, if you use it to exploit anybody or any situation, then again it may not work. I know this goes against how people generally think in this culture.

Please keep it free.

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Second KHTK Session

Here are some of the things you may cover in your second KHTK session. A KHTK session is not structured at all. Keep it at the level of a simple conversation.

(1) Go over KHTK 1C: LOOKING: THE MIND with the student. Discuss the main points as necessary.

(2) Do Exercise 1-6 with the student.

(3) The most important point here is the recognition of a response from the mind and differentiating it from the desire to find an answer. As it was told to me, "Let the mind contact you, instead of you contacting the mind."

(4) In this exercise, get the student to recgnize the presence and absence of an "immediate" response. But as the student will understand later, a response to what is asked for can come after a while too.

(5) You may tell the student to read KHTK 1D: LOOKING: PRACTICE later, and get immediately into Exercise 1-7.

(6) Get across the point that looking is totally non-judgmental and effortless. Either there is a response or there is no response. You don't need to have a response.

(7) Get across the point that converting what he looked at into language is not necessary. He simply needs to experience what is there. He needn't "express" it to anybody or even to himself.

(12) Continue until the student can do Exercise 1-7 very comfortably without effort.

(13) Arrange for time and place for the next session.

NOTE: If the student wants to talk about his problem, simply encourage him to look at where his attention is at, and experience what is there without resisting and without trying to put it into words.

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[I told you I was trouble]

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CAUTION: KHTK is absolutely free. If you try to make money out of it then it may not work.

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Why would that be?

If it is workable technology surely it would work (or not) regardless of whether someone payed to receive it as long as it was delivered correctly.




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[Big Farmer]

Why would that be?

If it is workable technology surely it would work (or not) regardless of whether someone payed to receive it as long as it was delivered correctly.




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Could it be something to do with the Charge?

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Could it be something to do with the Charge?

Lol ... oooh yeah, I never thought of that.





See Vinny? It is never a good idea to by-pass the charge ...

 

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Why would that be?

If it is workable technology surely it would work (or not) regardless of whether someone payed to receive it as long as it was delivered correctly.




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It is the intention that seem to matter.

It is the age-old Indian tradition to provide spiritual assistance without any expectations. It is up to the person who is helped to provide the exchange for it.

I invoke that ancient tradition for KHTK.

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Could it be something to do with the Charge?

Of course!

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[I told you I was trouble]

It is the intention that seem to matter.

It is the age-old Indian tradition to provide spiritual assistance without any expectations. It is up to the person who is helped to provide the exchange for it.

I invoke that ancient tradition for KHTK.

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That sounds fair enough ... thank-you for replying.

 

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That sounds fair enough ... thank-you for replying.

You are welcome.

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In Scientology, the idea of exchange has been corrupted and subverted by demanding exchange. This is the influence of the western corporate culture.

It is such subtle changes due to the influences from Western culture that has made the elements from Eastern philosophy corrupted and unworkable in Scientology.

At one time I was excited about Scientology creating a foothold for the Eastern philosophy in the West. But it eliminated the Eastern culture from it and replaced it by Western cultural factors. That has reduced Scientology to a big disappointment for me.

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NEWTON & HYPNOTHERAPY

He mentions it a lot. I'll just give one quote from his first book, Journey of Souls. Hester is a client. Ross is a previous identity of hers. Clodees is her spirit guide. "Dr. N" is Dr. Newton. "S" is subject.:

Would Hester have benefited from knowing about her past as Ross from birth rather than having to wait over thirty years and undergo hypnosis? Having no conscious memory of our former existences is called amnesia. This human condition is perplexing to people attracted to reincarnation. Why should we have to grope around in life trying to figure out who we are and what we are supposed to do and wondering if some spir­itual divinity really cares about us? I closed my session with this woman by asking about her amnesia.

Dr. N: Why do you think you had no conscious memory about your life as Ross Feldon?
S: When we choose a body and make a plan before coming back to Earth, there is an agreement with our advisors.
Dr. N: An agreement about what?
S: We agree . . . not to remember . . . other lives.
Dr. N: Why?
S: Learning from a blank slate is better than knowing in advance what could happen to you because of what you did before.
Dr. N: But wouldn't knowing about your past life mistakes be valuable in avoiding the same pitfalls in this life?
S: If people knew all about their past, many might pay too much attention to it rather than trying out new approaches to the same problem. The new life must be . . . taken seriously.
Dr. N: Are there any other reasons?
S: (pause) Without having old memories, our advisors say there is less preoccupation for . . . trying to . . . avenge the past . . . to get even for the wrongs done to you.
Dr. N: Well, it seems to me that so far this has been part of the motivation and conduct in your life as Hester.
S: (forcefully) That’s why I came to you.
Dr. N: And do you still think a total blackout of our eternal spiritual life on Earth is essential to progress?
S: Normally, yes, but it’s not a total blackout. We get flashes from dreams . . . during times of crisis . . . people have an inner knowing of what direction to take when it is neces­sary. And sometimes your friends can fudge a little . . .
Dr. N: By friends, you mean entities from the spirit world?
S: Uh-huh . . . they give you hints, by flashing ideas—I've done it.
Dr. N: Nevertheless, you had to come to me to unlock your conscious amnesia.
S: (pause) We have . . . the capacity to know when it is necessary. I was ready for change when I heard about you. Clodees allowed me to see the past with you because it was to my benefit.
Dr. N: Otherwise, your amnesia would have remained intact?
S: Yes, that would have meant I wasn't supposed to know certain things yet.

In my opinion, when clients are unable to go into hypnosis at any given time, or if they have only sketchy memories in trance, there is a reason for this blockage. This does not mean these people have no past memories, but that they are not ready to have them exposed.​

There's lots more, but I can't quote the whole book here.

Paul

Following are the inconsistencies that I find in the above explanation of why we can't remember past lives:

(1) We are not supposed to remember our past lives because of the agreement we make in LBL area because it could make us not learn what we are supposed to learn. Yet there is a curiosity in many to know about their past lives and many have resorted to hypnotherapy to do that. Are we violating the agreement? The workaround for this inconsistency is the stipulation that we are allowed to know about our past lives when it is deemed beneficial.

(2) The question then becomes, “Who determines what is beneficial for a person and what is not?” It is stipulated that there are guardians in the spirit world who are more advanced than you and you should listen to them. It means that you need external advice and determination in order to improve. This is similar to the “God” concept that pushes other-determinism.

(3) There seems to be a stipulation that most people cannot learn by themselves and that a person like Buddha is very rare.

Personally, I have distaste for imposed other-determinism. I have never felt comfortable with the Western idea of God. That idea is ready-made for imparting indoctrination and conditioning. In Newton’s research we see a similar idea.

It seems to me that what we are looking here in Newton’s research is a conditioning that is common to Western subjects.

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One thing struck me yesterday about Newton's work. I don't know if I have mentioned it before.

There is one VERY significant difference between Newton's thorough research and other mostly-unilateral ideas of the between-lives period. Newton's research indicates that, as the saying goes, we are spiritual beings undergoing a human experience. We basically live in the spiritual realms, occasionally sending down maybe half of our spiritual energy to run a body for a lifetime, for a preset purpose in a somewhat pre-planned life, which the individual both chooses and agrees with.

It is not the case, as Scientologists tend to see it, that one lives lifetimes on Earth or other planets, then in between there is a sort of brief hazy limbo where one may or may not get implanted, and then one goes back into real life again for another mostly-random whack. There is a great deal of existence that goes on in the highly-structured spirit world, with the occasional planned excursion into a bodily existence.

Again, this is his work I am writing about here, not my own imaginings.

Paul

One thing struck me just now. This whole LBL thing can be an implant.

It is smooth. It is suave. It is very agreeable. It even gets the person to agree to amnesia. It allows a pre-set purpose and life. IT HAS CONTROL WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. Further proof is that it is similar from person to person in the Western culture, just like the belief in a God (LORD) is.

Very enlightening, indeed! Not that I believe in implants. If it is an implant it is of the order of the God implant common to the Western culture.

Here is my Eastern understanding of God in modern language.

KNOWABLE AND UNKNOWABLE

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[me myself & i]

One thing struck me just now. This whole LBL thing can be an implant.

It is smooth. It is suave. It is very agreeable. It even gets the person to agree to amnesia. It allows a pre-set purpose and life. IT HAS CONTROL WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. Further proof is that it is similar from person to person in the Western culture, just like the belief in a God (LORD) is.

Very enlightening, indeed! Not that I believe in implants. If it is an implant it is of the order of the God implant common to the Western culture.

Here is my Eastern understanding of God in modern language.

KNOWABLE AND UNKNOWABLE.

Just read your essay. It seems to me you are saying (in summary)

The Knowable is that which can be known.

The Unknowable is that which can not be known.

God is a word which the meaning of, is knowable, but the being of, is unknowable.

Am I close?

 

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Just read your essay. It seems to me you are saying (in summary)

The Knowable is that which can be known.

The Unknowable is that which can not be known.

God is a word which the meaning of, is knowable, but the being of, is unknowable.

Am I close?

Let me see if I can explain more simply what I wrote. The key is MANIFESTATION.

What is manifested can be known simply because it is manifested. What is not manifested cannot be known because it is not manifested to be known in the first place. Basically, one can only know what is manifested. One may only speculate upon what is not manifested.

God is a label given to the Unknowable in an attempt to know it. But all that one can know is what one puts there in an attempt to know the Unknowable.

Unknowable is unknowable for all times because it is not manifested. What you know is what you put there to "describe" the Unknowable.

You cannot even call the Unknowable a being, because the idea of "being" can only be attached to something manifested. Something is existing or being, therefore it is "being." The property of beingness is common to all manifestations. The common denominator of all identities is BEINGNESS. It is an abstract noun.

The concept of BEINGNESS translates as ATMAN in Hinduism. In Christianity, BEINGNESS may translate as SOUL, but the word "soul" has also the connotation of "individuality" attached to it, which is not there in the abstract sense of BEINGNESS.

I am afraid I may have confused you more.

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