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It used to be common in the military branches to refer female officer as "sir", regardless of gender. Today, some female military officers prefer "sir" over "ma'am" because women feel "ma'am" is commonly used to refer to old women. I had an African-American officer like that in the Army.. she cringed when subordinates called her "ma'am," believing it to be an artifact of the old South.

The idea is that the gender of the superior officer shouldn't be considered at all, all you need to know is that they are your superior.

Ever watch the 'Star Trek" (TV & movies) and 'Battledstar:Gallactica"? The female officers were referred to as "sir".

I would accept "ma'am" - British or American pronunciation. Extra reverence, with "Your Majesty" would not incur demerit points.
 

Student of Trinity

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It used to be common in the military branches to refer female officer as "sir", regardless of gender. Today, some female military officers prefer "sir" over "ma'am" because women feel "ma'am" is commonly used to refer to old women. I had an African-American officer like that in the Army.. she cringed when subordinates called her "ma'am," believing it to be an artifact of the old South.

The idea is that the gender of the superior officer shouldn't be considered at all, all you need to know is that they are your superior.

Ever watch the 'Star Trek" (TV & movies) and 'Battledstar:Gallactica"? The female officers were referred to as "sir".

This must be an American thing. I'm pretty sure the other English-speaking armed forces always just used "Ma'am". It went right to the top, after all, in all those years with Queen Victoria, and then Elizabeth from 1952.

In conversing with royalty, you only say "Your majesty" once, at the beginning. Thereafter it's plain "sir" for a king, or "ma'am" for a queen. If "ma'am" was good enough for the Empress of India, it'll do for a female lieutenant.
 

Kerry

Patron with Honors
Rather than "world has mistaken bravery for insanity" ...

I think she meant to say "world has mistaken insanity for bravery" ...

Completely different meaning, and I could be wrong, but what she actually wrote doesn't really make any sense in ANY context.


Exactly.

She doesn't appear to think anything but that Bruce Jenner is 'insane' - Scientology definition which as "That (your behavior, those beliefs/realities and those who support you) are not in my Scientology religion's cosmology, in fact it all goes against them, therefore it is insane (Hubbard said so). And in her messianic reactionary Kirstie usual way, she's pops off, and actually doesn't seem to know how to say what she means.

Her impulsivity is legendary.

Though I wonder if what she said in her backpeddle has anything to do with dealing with her own soul searching whether she has seen the HBO documentary or not (though I think she probably has). Her recent show was cancelled after only 1 season, and so she's travelling - maybe to support her cult in various Scientology CCs like Travolta in Clearwater, or maybe she's been rocked by so much of the 'entheta' in recent years. If the latter, of course she would be supported should she land here. I'm skeptical of that, but she doesn't have to like what Jenner has done, and I wonder if her comment suggesting she's on her own "soul search" means she could be considering leaving Scientology.

Many dislike the Kardashion "empire," perhaps it's to do with that. ???? I'm sure we'll hear from her again.
 

Leland

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So an SO man would address/answer a 14 year old girl from the CMO as SIR?

So, its not quite the same as or modeled exactly after the US military? I doubt they would do anything like that....


Edited: IMO it is mind twisting.....it is not a sign of "respect".....it is mind manipulation...on both sides. But for a child....would be child abuse IMO...
 
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Smurf

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This must be an American thing. I'm pretty sure the other English-speaking armed forces always just used "Ma'am". It went right to the top, after all, in all those years with Queen Victoria, and then Elizabeth from 1952.

It is. When I lived in the Midwest, "Sir" was common, but "Ma'am" was not. When my family moved to Florida, using "Sir" and "Ma'am was the norm.

I remember a few teachers calling me "un-cultured" because I lived in the Midwest. :biggrin:
 

Lone Star

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It is. When I lived in the Midwest, "Sir" was common, but "Ma'am" was not. When my family moved to Florida, using "Sir" and "Ma'am was the norm.

I remember a few teachers calling me "un-cultured" because I lived in the Midwest. :biggrin:

Yes, you are correct Ma'am.
 

lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
So an SO man would address/answer a 14 year old girl from the CMO as SIR?

yep :yes:

Some CMO teenagers had a tendency to abuses this ''poisonned gift'' to be given power & authority on people - like a toy !

I was, a few times, called to be handled, (which I prefered) for refusing to adress children and my senior as Sir. :confused2:
 
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