Kris Jenner “Terrified” Kylie Will Get “Sucked Into” Scientology By Jaden Smith

[FlunkYou]

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So it looks like the first School Head was quickly cut because they weren't okay with "study tech" and the like.

Her replacement, Piano Foster is down with the cult: http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/p/piano-foster.html

Piano Foster is also known as Franca Campopiano.


That's Congresswoman Maxine Waters, on the right, with Piano Foster, the school's leader. (Photo from Tony Ortega/Village Voice)

LOL...she did the BSM in 2005 and that makes her "down with the cult"?

 

[oneonewasaracecar]

I know for a FACT that it's not a scientologist school right now.

I know there were some scner's working there in the past...there may even be 1 or 2 there now, but the school it's self does not use "study tech", have an "ethics officer", they're not affiliated with applied scholastics, there are no "e-meters", there are no "demo kits", there is no rule about being quite when someone gets hurt, etc.

This is from someone who knows this firsthand...but, if you want to believe it's an scn front group, by all means.

I am curious as to how you would have this information first hand. Are you able to divulge?

 

[Dulloldfart]

I know for a FACT that it's not a scientologist school right now.

I know there were some scner's working there in the past...there may even be 1 or 2 there now, but the school it's self does not use "study tech", have an "ethics officer", they're not affiliated with applied scholastics, there are no "e-meters", there are no "demo kits", there is no rule about being quite when someone gets hurt, etc.

This is from someone who knows this firsthand...but, if you want to believe it's an scn front group, by all means.

All I know is what's on the web site now, and what was there in the past (and on the news etc.). I have no special knowledge beyond that. I am not about to construct some involved conspiracy theory as I don't have any more info than that.

Here's a few paragraphs from http://www.nvlacademy.org/_bin/curriculum/educationPhilosophy.cfm five minutes ago:

Another important aspect of our program is that all of our learning experiences are taught using hands on materials and must have a real world application. Our goal for thorough conceptual understanding of ideas, concepts and principles. For example, if a student is learning how to make a robot, he or she needs to see or touch the materials and computer right in front of him or her rather than just imagining how to make it. By providing the Legos to construct the robot, the computer to program the robot and the competition to apply this knowledge in a real-world experience, the students conceptual understanding is deeper and more meaningful.

Our exceptional teachers are taught to teach sequentially, checking for prior understanding. When a student is required to perform a sequence of steps and he comes to a point where he doesn’t understand, the learning curve is too steep. If a teacher is showing a student how to make the robot and the student suddenly is confused, the teacher makes sure to go back to the place the student stopped understanding and re-teach that point. We teach older students to do this on their own – when studying learn to go back with no prompting to restudy their prior steps and the concepts they may not have grasped the first time around.

In addition, NVLA teachers make sure students understand the meanings of all of the words related to the subject, whether in math or in music, or as in the robot example – all of the words related to making the robot. What do the words, electro-mechanic, gears, and system mean? Often students (and adults as well) lose interest and stop paying attention when they get lost in explanations filled with words they do not understand. So many students think they are terrible in math; has the teacher ever defined words such as factor, geometry or exponent?​

"Conceptual understanding" (first para) is a big buzzword (or two) in study tech. And In case it's not obvious, para 1 is about "adding mass," para 2 is about skipped gradients, and para 3 is about misunderstood words. These are the famous "3 barriers to study," the bedrock of study tech (I was a professional sup in the SO for many years). I'm not pushing the view that what is written there is wrong or bad, just pointing out that it shows a strong Scn influence.

Paul

 

[Anonycat]

You said the Smiths were not scientolgist and I was agreeing with you on that fact.

As far as the NVLA goes, it's not a scientolgists school, nor do they use "study tech" or have an "ethics officer".

I do think they were scientologists, and I do see that they started up the school - which their own kids attended, and I did see the large donations and influence in the school PR and administration. If Jada did fire the original head of the school for not complying with crap like the proven-fraudulent "study tech", then there are other levels of participation or leadership roles which they administered.

 

[FlunkYou]

I am curious as to how you would have this information first hand. Are you able to divulge?

Not without dropping names, and I'm not comfortable doing that here.

 

[Stephanie]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468644,00.html

The link to the article states how much the Smithster donated to the COS. I don't know of anyone who would donate that kind of money without being heavily involved.

Over 100K+ is a lot of money. Maybe he has had to pay for his own auditing. Times are tough in the celeb area of cci.

The article also mentions the school he started.

 

[FlunkYou]

All I know is what's on the web site now, and what was there in the past (and on the news etc.). I have no special knowledge beyond that. I am not about to construct some involved conspiracy theory as I don't have any more info than that.

Here's a few paragraphs from http://www.nvlacademy.org/_bin/curriculum/educationPhilosophy.cfm five minutes ago:

Another important aspect of our program is that all of our learning experiences are taught using hands on materials and must have a real world application. Our goal for thorough conceptual understanding of ideas, concepts and principles. For example, if a student is learning how to make a robot, he or she needs to see or touch the materials and computer right in front of him or her rather than just imagining how to make it. By providing the Legos to construct the robot, the computer to program the robot and the competition to apply this knowledge in a real-world experience, the students conceptual understanding is deeper and more meaningful.

Our exceptional teachers are taught to teach sequentially, checking for prior understanding. When a student is required to perform a sequence of steps and he comes to a point where he doesn’t understand, the learning curve is too steep. If a teacher is showing a student how to make the robot and the student suddenly is confused, the teacher makes sure to go back to the place the student stopped understanding and re-teach that point. We teach older students to do this on their own – when studying learn to go back with no prompting to restudy their prior steps and the concepts they may not have grasped the first time around.

In addition, NVLA teachers make sure students understand the meanings of all of the words related to the subject, whether in math or in music, or as in the robot example – all of the words related to making the robot. What do the words, electro-mechanic, gears, and system mean? Often students (and adults as well) lose interest and stop paying attention when they get lost in explanations filled with words they do not understand. So many students think they are terrible in math; has the teacher ever defined words such as factor, geometry or exponent?​

"Conceptual understanding" (first para) is a big buzzword (or two) in study tech. And In case it's not obvious, para 1 is about "adding mass," para 2 is about skipped gradients, and para 3 is about misunderstood words. These are the famous "3 barriers to study," the bedrock of study tech (I was a professional sup in the SO for many years). I'm not pushing the view that what is written there is wrong or bad, just pointing out that it shows a strong Scn influence.

Paul

I can see why you would think what you think based on this information.

The truth of the matter is, they are not a scientology school nor are they affiliated in any way with applied scholastics (which, as everyone knows is run by the church).

 

[oneonewasaracecar]

Not without dropping names, and I'm not comfortable doing that here.

Doesn't that make it 2nd hand or is it more complicated than that?

 

[CommunicatorIC]

National Enquirer online Kardashian story

National Enquirer article online

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/kardashian-scientology-nightmare

Excerpt:

KRIS JENNER is terrified that her youngest daughter, Kylie, is going to get sucked into the controversial Church of Scientology if she continues to date “Karate Kid” star Jaden Smith – the son of Will and Jada Pinkett Smith.

The budding romance between Kylie, 15, and Jaden, 14 – who were spotted on a series of dates in London in early March – originally earned “momager” Kris’ stamp of approval.

“They were going to be the new Kardashian ‘celebrity couple,’” said an insider. “Kris’ mind was go­ing a mile a minute thinking about all of the business deals she could make in the teen market. But after pals alerted her to the Smith fami­ly’s attachment to Scientology, she started having second thoughts about the relationship.”

 

[Anonycat]

LOL...she did the BSM in 2005 and that makes her "down with the cult"?

I know! LOL! Her hubby Darrell is a ronbot too! OMG! That's why Jada chose Piano, because the Smith's knew she'd so the job. After all, it takes a scientologist to lie and say that a scientology school is NOT scientology. Again, LOL Imagine this ever getting challenged:

“I can confirm that the New Village Academy is registered with us.” Information Officer with the (CDE) Tina Jung said. “They signed an affidavit in line with our regulations which name’s Jaqueline Olivier as the Site Administrator. It is listed as a private business and as being ‘non-religious’ within the affidavit. New Village Leadership Academy is listed as a private business with the Secretary of State’s Office.

 

[FlunkYou]

I know! LOL! Her hubby Darrell is a ronbot too! OMG! That's why Jada chose Piano, because the Smith's knew she'd so the job. After all, it takes a scientologist to lie and say that a scientology school is NOT scientology. Again, LOL Imagine this ever getting challenged:

“I can confirm that the New Village Academy is registered with us.” Information Officer with the (CDE) Tina Jung said. “They signed an affidavit in line with our regulations which name’s Jaqueline Olivier as the Site Administrator. It is listed as a private business and as being ‘non-religious’ within the affidavit. New Village Leadership Academy is listed as a private business with the Secretary of State’s Office.

LULZ...You're about as accurate as the IAS with their memberships.

Usually people here applaud someone for not being in the church, but because someone did a course back in 2005, you're hell-bent on making them "ronbots". I guess whatever twirls that propeller on your beanie, pal.

And as far as I know, the school is a non-profit which is typical with most private schools...but, again, you're in the know.

 

[Anonycat]

LULZ...You're about as accurate as the IAS with their memberships.

Usually people here applaud someone for not being in the church, but because someone did a course back in 2005, you're hell-bent on making them "ronbots". I guess whatever twirls that propeller on your beanie, pal.

And as far as I know, the school is a non-profit which is typical with most private schools...but, again, you're in the know.

Welcome, high-five, and karate bow. We never took a moment to introduce ourselves, which I regret, but I can move forward if you're comfortable too.

You're being a dick. I have stated what is known, and verified. An earlier post of the Smith's giving six figures isn't the whole of it, it was over a million. BUT, that isn't my point at all. You shouldn't come at me with words of ill will without shit to support it.

That being said, I am of the personal opinion that Will and Jada are two smart cookies. They will not comply in ways that, say, John Travolta has. Suri was in that school like the Smith kids - and I get it that they thought it was a good idea at the time. But, I can easily see them making the school completely legit, and leave the original plan behind. They have made mistakes which they do not seem willing to do again.

 

[FlunkYou]

Welcome, high-five, and karate bow. We never took a moment to introduce ourselves, which I regret, but I can move forward if you're comfortable too.

You're being a dick. I have stated what is known, and verified. An earlier post of the Smith's giving six figures isn't the whole of it, it was over a million. BUT, that isn't my point at all. You shouldn't come at me with words of ill will without shit to support it.

That being said, I am of the personal opinion that Will and Jada are two smart cookies. They will not comply in ways that, say, John Travolta has. Suri was in that school like the Smith kids - and I get it that they thought it was a good idea at the time. But, I can easily see them making the school completely legit, and leave the original plan behind. They have made mistakes which they do not seem willing to do again.

I'm being a "dick" because you're talking out of your ass like you know what the fuck is actually going on there.

I have a child that goes to school there. Besides being a parent that is actually involved with the school, I also know (outside of the school) a handful of people who work there who are NOT scientolgists.

You act like you know the Smiths, when, in fact you've never met them. Well, I HAVE.

I HATE divulging this information, but it was the only way I could see proving to you that MY information regarding the school does NOT come from the internet.

So the next time you come at someone with your mad google skills, or you start thumping you wiki find as the gospel truth, it might behoove you to NOT believe EVERYTHING your read on the web.

 

[Anonycat]

I'm being a "dick" because you're talking out of your ass like you know what the fuck is actually going on there.

I have a child that goes to school there. Besides being a parent that is actually involved with the school, I also know (outside of the school) a handful of people who work there who are NOT scientolgists.

You act like you know the Smiths, when, in fact you've never met them. Well, I HAVE.

I HATE divulging this information, but it was the only way I could see proving to you that MY information regarding the school does NOT come from the internet.

So the next time you come at someone with your mad google skills, or you start thumping you wiki find as the gospel truth, it might behoove you to NOT believe EVERYTHING your read on the web.

So what you're saying is that you know intimately that the school is no longer cult-based. Your rage makes your statement lose credibility. 2+.

 

[FlunkYou]

So what you're saying is that you know intimately that the school is no longer cult-based. Your rage makes your statement lose credibility. 2+.

"rage"?? PFFFFT...for the simple fact that you base your "arguments" on tabloid stories and Wikipedia is laughable. But hey, keep shaking that credibility stick, someone's bound to buy it.

 

[Anonycat]

"rage"?? PFFFFT...for the simple fact that you base your "arguments" on tabloid stories and Wikipedia is laughable. But hey, keep shaking that credibility stick, someone's bound to buy it.

You're quite the greased pig. So, what is the argument I make, and what is the Wiki article do you dispute? Yay for dragging out your drama! Teams are standing by to satisfy your every whim.

 

[FlunkYou]

You're quite the greased pig. So, what is the argument I make, and what is the Wiki article do you dispute? Yay for dragging out your drama! Teams are standing by to satisfy your every whim.

I don't talk zoophile, so I have no clue what your "greased pig" comment means.

You're the one telling us your "theories" on the Smiths and the school based on Wikipedia and Google results. "It's on the internet, it has to be true."

 

[Dulloldfart]

Sorry to interrupt all the friendly banter, but is the study tech stuff on the school's webpage that I quoted current, i.e. what the staff do with the students at present? Or is it some historical webpage that hasn't been updated?

Paul

 

[FlunkYou]

Sorry to interrupt all the friendly banter, but is the study tech stuff on the school's webpage that I quoted current, i.e. what the staff do with the students at present? Or is it some historical webpage that hasn't been updated?

Paul

Old...no study tech (per study tech: demo kits, clearing all definitions and derivations of words, clay table etc).

Also, the teachers there all have degrees and are not course supervisors. What they've done there (mainly the faculty, not the Smiths) is nothing short of spectacular. The education these kids are getting is beyond most private schools in the area.

 

[degraded being]

Old...no study tech (per study tech: demo kits, clearing all definitions and derivations of words, clay table etc).

Also, the teachers there all have degrees and are not course supervisors. What they've done there (mainly the faculty, not the Smiths) is nothing short of spectacular. The education these kids are getting is beyond most private schools in the area.

Please pick up the cans.
I am NOT auditing you.

If Tom Cruise were to see the school now, would he blow a fuse about how SPs had taken it over and gone totally off Source?

If OSA and Tom could get Suri away from Katie and the Kathliks, would he send Suri back to the school?

Addition to this DB Bulletin.

Would Katie be happy to send Suri there?