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[/QUOTE]Our doctors always have been better than yours
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,885063,00.html
Dutch doctors have forced a dose of political castor oil down the throats of Holland's Nazi overlords. Furious because the doctors refused to join a Nazi-created Chamber of Physicians, the Nazis threatened them with penalties. Thereupon 6,200 Dutch doctors shut their offices, went on strike. They told Reich Commissioner Arthur Seyss-Inquart that they would have no part of a medical society that sponsored "deportation of the insane and sick persons and the sterilization of healthy people."
Seyss-Inquart stormed, threw hundreds of doctors into jail. For weeks there was almost no medical service in The Netherlands. Then the Nazis, fearful of epidemics, gave..
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QUOTE=Udarnik;828116]AnonKat, are you kidding? Eugenics was an English movement. The Nazis took it and twisted it, but it hardly started with them.
The Dutch never heavily (though they did somewhat, ever hear of Afkomst en Toekomst?) took up Eugenics in Europe because the Netherlands are a small country with a homogenous, middle class population, and has been since the middle ages. As long as everyone in the Netherlands was in the club, the Dutch had no reason to take it up. But as soon as the Dutch began mixing with those dirty brown people, its appeal became obvious.
And seriously, in America, Psychiatry was only perpherally involved. Eugenics was more biological in nature - was an offshoot of the infant study of human heredity and the birth control movement. Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood had far more to do with it than Psychiatry, so why are you going on about it? These days in America the only people who try to smear Planned Parenthood with its eugenic origins are the religious Republicans who are hell bent on destroying freedom of choice. Why dig that far back - there was lots of goofy shit held as gospel by a much more credulous medical comminty back then. Prior to WWII, a lot of good people thought eugenics might have some benefit, not having seen it tried on a large scale yet. Medical science evolves, as science is structured to do, and the bad stuff is cast off over time. The process isn't fast, but it is remoreseless.
Not really, The netherlands are the birthground of Social Psychiatry begginning with Jacobus Schroeder van der Kolk, the rest of the world does not know that.
This Wiki page is pretty incompleet talking only about some American bright lights
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_psychiatry
Maybe there's a confusion between Holland and Sweden, you do both have cheeses and speak vaguely related languages.
http://www.thelocal.se/2727/20051221/
its was somewhat of a side step, But Dutch Psychytry wasn't as fucked up as American, In the 30ties Dutch Psychiatrists rejected Eugenics,
Threating the person was more important/
Well I will share a secret with you most of our Psychiatrist are Jungian and many do believe in a soul, but they won't admit that directly because it could make them look foolish in the proffesion.
The founding father of Dutch Psychiatry
"Schroeder van der Kolk is regarded as the founder of Dutch psychiatry and neurology. This paper describes his vitalistic views on the relation between body and soul, as formulated by him in a series of lectures. These lectures were intended to counteract the materialistic tendencies of some of Schroeder van der Kolk's French and German contemporaries. It is argued that Schroeder van der Kolk can be regarded as the transition in Holland from the "Naturphilosophie" approach to the modern experimental approach in physiology."
Copyright 1998 Academic Press.
So what is your point?
That L Ron Hubbard was a Hippy, because he called shananigans on the whole hypocrit American Socïety back in the day including the Idea on what was normal. And the Psychiatric system being used to weed out anything what was not in line with "normal"
And he took on J Edgar Hoover Who was practicly The King of America for 48 years, He fucked over your country good He let a president got shot, Maartrn Luther King died under his reign and Robert kennedy
America America this is you ! All hail to King hoover !!! KING of Ameica
He did not fuck over my country AFAIK.
All that work to try and convince hardarse anti Hubbardists that Ron = good, and you tried to do it by degrading him to "hippy". Jesus, that's lame! Who is your audience? Newly outs with cash and beliefs?
lol, nah just wanted to give another perspective. I don't want moniez, just to counter "hardarse anti Hubbardists" that make the man into the devil. He was just a man. Hoover was more bad ass
Do you have a nickel than ? so i can buy myself some delicious moist ceak
Your caek is poisonous. Keep eating it yourself.
U no leik my Caek ?
There were a few 'hippies' who were criminals and con men, using regurgitated eastern and other philosophies to gain power and advantage over others, and L. Ron Hubbard was a criminal and con man using the same, but I don't believe that made Hubbard a hippie. (For one, he was never 'hip'.) As I write this, 'criminal and con man' seems redundant, but the creation of the cult of Scientology elevated Hubbard into a higher level of criminality, considering how many more people were and are being harmed by the so-called 'religion' he created. Down with Scientology!
Damn! 4 pages of this thread and still no Hoaxie shoop of L Ron Hippie?
well, actually i think the germans could have just as easily taken eugenics from the americans.We in the Netherlands never took on Eugenics, fucking American Psychiatrist imported that shit right from the Germans
Hubbub a hippy? Yeah, I think that's what he aspired towards along with being a movie star, producer, nuclear physicist, writer, and a stellar Artist/musician, (bla, bla) all around progressive, new-world guy: anything that anyone would love to be involved with or doing. Yet he tried it in a more pseudo-intellectual beatnik sort of way - and hid the real hippy stuff.
He failed at all attempts miserably, but had he mentioned that he really wanted to F with everyone's mind and create some sort of godly (small 'g') legacy - then everyone would have to say: "he succeeded."
I really do hope he gets a small glimpse of just what his legacy is- and is going to be for all eternity.
Quite sure he's been evicted from Venus and the Van Allen Belt...and really: even the Marcabians don't want him I am sure!
He's squeezing someone's cans somewhere for sure.
(I'll go to bed now)