GreyWolf
Gold Meritorious Patron
So here we are. Let me go back a little. When I was first at the mission in Hesperia, they did the pinch test on me. When they did the test everything they said would happen did happen. From that point on, Scientology could not do anything wrong. It was all right. If that part worked, it must all work.
So even though I was really upset about the comm-ev and everything I was still, at that time, a Scientologist. Also, at this point I want to say something about that comm-ev. It was totally off policy. It started out alright, but then they had me pick up the cans. A comm-ev turning into a gangbang sec-check. I have never heard of that happening. But I went back to the org and resumed my PES post.
I had to get a real job and because I had a computer background, It was easy to get work and of course when working with computers, you have easy access to the net. Well of course I wanted to know what other people were saying about the "church".
So I looked online and found that there were a lot of people against the church for varying reasons, but I also found the secret OT levels. Not just the EP's mind you, but the actual pack data. I, like everyone else had been curious about this, so of course I did not shade my eyes. I looked. I read the OT8 data. Now, I have a question. How can you have it both ways. In some ref's Ron says that Jesus was nothing more than an implant. A ser-fac created in R6. In OT8 ron says that Jesus was a man who liked "boys and young men" and someone who had a "terrible temper". :confused2:
I was brought up a Christian and somehow this deeply offended me. ALthough, I understood one thing very well. Untill a person has been well enough indocrinated, they are not considered "ready" to do OT8. That was the last straw.
I have never since been inside an org. There were, for a while attempts to get me back in to see what my problems were. A few phone calls. I told one terminal about what I had read. I was told that I would have to go to Flag to get that handled. I said there was no way I was going to Flag on my dime to handle a lie. I have never been called since. About a year later, I ran into a "friend" who said he was not supposed to talk to me. I have never received a declare order. I figure after 14 years, who cares?
Thank you everyone for being here and listening.
Love and Respect
Bob
So even though I was really upset about the comm-ev and everything I was still, at that time, a Scientologist. Also, at this point I want to say something about that comm-ev. It was totally off policy. It started out alright, but then they had me pick up the cans. A comm-ev turning into a gangbang sec-check. I have never heard of that happening. But I went back to the org and resumed my PES post.
I had to get a real job and because I had a computer background, It was easy to get work and of course when working with computers, you have easy access to the net. Well of course I wanted to know what other people were saying about the "church".
So I looked online and found that there were a lot of people against the church for varying reasons, but I also found the secret OT levels. Not just the EP's mind you, but the actual pack data. I, like everyone else had been curious about this, so of course I did not shade my eyes. I looked. I read the OT8 data. Now, I have a question. How can you have it both ways. In some ref's Ron says that Jesus was nothing more than an implant. A ser-fac created in R6. In OT8 ron says that Jesus was a man who liked "boys and young men" and someone who had a "terrible temper". :confused2:
I was brought up a Christian and somehow this deeply offended me. ALthough, I understood one thing very well. Untill a person has been well enough indocrinated, they are not considered "ready" to do OT8. That was the last straw.
I have never since been inside an org. There were, for a while attempts to get me back in to see what my problems were. A few phone calls. I told one terminal about what I had read. I was told that I would have to go to Flag to get that handled. I said there was no way I was going to Flag on my dime to handle a lie. I have never been called since. About a year later, I ran into a "friend" who said he was not supposed to talk to me. I have never received a declare order. I figure after 14 years, who cares?
Thank you everyone for being here and listening.
Love and Respect
Bob