Clears and OTs may be debatable.
Nope. Clears and OTs are not "debatable".
They don't exist.
Yes, I understand that Scientologists like to redefine the promised, vast benefits of "getting rid of your Reactive Mind" from what Hubbard originally promised down to "I felt really good for a while". (
Which means the Reactive Mind has gone from this huge, evil monster down to a minor annoyance which you might not even notice when it's gone).
And I understand that Scientologists like to redefine "OT" from the incredible abilities and powers promised by Hubbard down to "I'm calling a few coincidences 'OT Phenomena' so I can pretend I'm 'OT'."
But
if we accept these redefinitions, then Scientology doesn't actually provide any benefit. If we go with the original claims of Hubbard's, then Scientology
doesn't actually produce those promised results. Either way, it's a complete failure.
Releases and miracles are plenty.
See the FZ Success stories thread here on ESMB.
Nope. "Success stories" are not proof. If anecdotal stories were proof, then there really is a Nigerian prince who is giving millions away. If anecdotal stories were proof, then aliens really are speaking to people through their appliances. If anecdotal stories were proof, then lizard people are running this country.
So, what do you have besides "stories"?
Here's what I have from 30+ years of knowing and observing thousands and thousands of Scientologists (inside and outside the church). These observations are consistent for all Scientologists I've observed. In talking with others, my observations match theirs:
"Grade 0 Releases" have trouble communicating.
"Grade 1 Releases" have problems.
"Grade 2 Releases" are still struggling with "hostilities and suffering".
"Grade 3 Releases" are still hung up on past upsets.
"Grade 4 Releases" work
very hard to make others wrong and self right -- in fact, Scientology seems to make this
much worse.
While, in general, I like Scientologists and admire all those who got into Scientology wanting to help others, they are
just ordinary people with no more powers and abilities than the rest of the inhabitants of this world.
I have no doubt that some people get some benefits from Scientology processing, even if only temporary.
But to actually, publicly claim and insist that Scientology produces "Releases", "Clears" and "OTs" is a lie and actual FRAUD.
And that is just wrong.
Bill