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Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

boatswain

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Re: Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

For instance, here's a web page from one Arthur E. Roffey, who among many other things is some kind of affiliate of the Newton Institute, has been certified by Newton to conduct his form of regression therapy, and apparently makes a living these days from offering it.

Quite a living too...an 8,000 sq foot architect designed 'dream home'. :clap:

http://www.metromodemedia.com/features/Geothermal0046.aspx

More pics at http://www.yyarchitects.com/#projects
 
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Oh Carlos, floating in the mists of the world beyond material bodies, the natural element of the warriers and witch doctors. I loved those books and now... They were so dreamy - did you ever try and see your hands in a dream? I tried but after a while... well life has a way of getting in the way.

Is this the fate of all beliefs, to have them dashed apart by nay sayers? How am I supposed to withstand those who deny exteriorzation when I have experianced it for my self? Oh, the travails the true believer has to endure, the jackels biting at my heels... Is there nothing left to believe in?

No council of spirits to tell me how I wasted my time smoking pot in college, hanging with Tim Leary's BooHoos, none of Carlos's warriers to help me play tricks on crows...

What next? No DC8 space ships coming here from Target Two? Nobody waiting at the top of the bridge?

You bastards! Have you mercy?

Mimsey the miserable
 

Hatshepsut

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Re: Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

Poetry may help Hats - like this! :coolwink:

I Wandered Lonely as a Clod

I wandered lonely as a clod,
Just picking up old rags and bottles,
When onward on my way I plod,
I saw a host of axolotls;
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
A sight to make a man's blood freeze.

Some had handles, some were plain;
They came in blue, red pink, and green.
A few were orange in the main;
The damndest sight I've ever seen.
The females gave a sprightly glance;
The male ones all wore knee-length pants.

Now oft, when on the couch I lie,
The doctor asks me what I see.
They flash upon my inward eye
And make me laugh in fiendish glee.
I find my solace then in bottles,
And I forget them axolotls
.


EP (with apologies to Wordsworth)

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George Kavassilas. Australian seer, and author of The Grand Deception and Our Journey Home. This vid __the BIG CHARADE. The belief system you are signed into may or may not represent the big picture of true reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RM8L6a4P80&feature=player_detailpage

...... what some expect at the end of their times here on earth could be a masterful suggestion. ( He talks usually about what will happen to souls March 2013 when they are taken from their human existence)
 
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Clarence Rockaway

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:thumbsup:

George Kavassilas. Australian seer, and author of The Grand Deception and Our Journey Home. This vid __the BIG CHARADE. The belief system you are signed into may or may not represent the big picture of true reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RM8L6a4P80&feature=player_detailpage

...... what some expect at the end of their times here on earth could be a masterful suggestion. ( He talks usually about what will happen to souls March 2013 when they are taken from their human existence)
Hat...just saw George Kavissilas's video. Absolutely fabulous! How I needed that message. There are a couple of cement souls on this board for whom this video will go over their heads like a tent. But for so many of us, this is THE message we needed to hear and to confirm. Hawaiian girl with the egyptian name, you've given us the most precious gift. If this nutzoid mother of yours is what's driving you to find all this sanity, G-d bless you both!
 

Clarence Rockaway

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Oh Carlos, floating in the mists of the world beyond material bodies, the natural element of the warriers and witch doctors. I loved those books and now... They were so dreamy - did you ever try and see your hands in a dream? I tried but after a while... well life has a way of getting in the way.

Is this the fate of all beliefs, to have them dashed apart by nay sayers? How am I supposed to withstand those who deny exteriorzation when I have experianced it for my self? Oh, the travails the true believer has to endure, the jackels biting at my heels... Is there nothing left to believe in?

No council of spirits to tell me how I wasted my time smoking pot in college, hanging with Tim Leary's BooHoos, none of Carlos's warriers to help me play tricks on crows...

What next? No DC8 space ships coming here from Target Two? Nobody waiting at the top of the bridge?

You bastards! Have you mercy?

Mimsey the miserable
Great post, Mims. Your tongue was so deep into your cheek, you could have turned into a Ubangi. Yeah, like Boatswain is going to rain on YOUR gossamer parade. Or you're going to go into agreement with Uniquemand that all dimensions are MEST. I don't even bother to argue with people like that anymore. It's best to just bless them on their moolight swim in concrete water wings, and then soar upward into the ethereal realm to meet your destiny:coolwink:.
 

programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
Re: Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

George Kavassilas says "the universe is full of life".

I disagree. Life forms are rare. In fact, we have yet to find any outside of our planet.
 

Hatshepsut

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Re: Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

You'd have to be a bit nuts to go where he's gone. But what the hell...
 
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Hatshepsut

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Re: Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

Originally posted by boatswain

But...but...David Icke insists that George Kavassilas is a reptilian shapeshifter! How can you believe that guy?


George has commented on that shapeshifting accusation with quite some humor. He says we all have the potential to shift as we have certain genes that can be dominant in response to certain stimuli.

David Icke himself said the same thing. I could see how someone could shift though I highly doubt Kavassilas does. However, from listening to much of his work I do know he doesn't care much for the reptiles at ALL. These types sent him into psychic trauma as a child. It was the most unconfrontable thing that ever happened to him, and since then he has had 2 more attacks. Recently he has been allying with others like himself to take apart the reptilian Vatican energy. The collective that leverages the agenda through threat of tortures and fires and penalties.
 
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programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
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At about 1:46 into this video George says that the universe is full of life.
This is false. We have yet to find any life forms outside of planet Earth.

Yes, George, I liked the Star Wars movies but I never mistaked them for reality.
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
Re: Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

At about 1:46 into this video George says that the universe is full of life.
This is false. We have yet to find any life forms outside of planet Earth.

Yes, George, I liked the Star Wars movies but I never mistaked them for reality.

Although life forms do 'seem' peculiarly absent, there is a sense of a present time intentionedness 'out there', which seems to come from something 'very' much alive and active. :confused2:

I think it has been deduced by some scientists that a few of the lifeforms here on earth could not have possibly originated here because we do not have some of the necessities required to have germinated their growth originally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mHsAHGWnUG8
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Re: Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

Please try to keep this thread to its subject matter, namely Dr. Michael Newton and his research into Life Between Lives.

By all means start a "Reptiloids" thread. :)

Paul
 

Clarence Rockaway

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But...but...David Icke insists that George Kavassilas is a reptilian shapeshifter! How can you believe that guy?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=161674

It all depends on the brand of crazy you want to believe! :eyeroll:
One wonders just why some people ever joined Scientology in the first place. The grade chart attracted me. To be able to achieve all those wondrous states of spiritual power. To throw off the shackles of the universe of solids and sordids, and to fly free. to come and go in magical ways to magical places.

It took years and tears and loss and humiliation to find out that it was all bullshit. But why would the demented cemented, the truly 'Solid' citizens on our board join up? It must have been all the 'scientific' claptrap that attracted them. They found out that that was bullshit too. Now they're here, naysaying to all that's beyond MEST. Poor souls. Poor trapped, heavy, weighted down, concrete covered souls...Dr. Newton is correct about one thing at least. Beginner souls are very immature. And I suppose one must be both tolerant and patient. :bigcry:
 
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Student of Trinity

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Presumably I am one of those tiresome immature souls. I appreciate your kind patience.

But I was never in Scientology. I'm here as a respectfully interested outsider. Though one of the things I've felt I can contribute is just the confirmation that, to an educated outsider, the bullshit is indeed obvious as such.

I see nothing wrong or foolish about seeking spiritual knowledge, or higher knowledge, or whatever kind of other knowledge you want. It seems to me, though, that getting taken in by a flim-flam artist over spiritual precepts is no more illustrious than getting taken in by a flim-flam artist over which cup the ball is under. Scammed is scammed.

So it seems to me that one should be just as hard-nosed and careful when investigating spiritual realities, as when preparing to invest money in a business proposition. Read the fine print, ask why they're not telling you what they're not telling you, consider the possibility of fraud. If it's true, there'll be no harm done. If it's not true, the sooner you find out, the better.

In the present case, I just find it alarming that Michael Newton hasn't published all his transcripts for others to pore through. And that there does not seem to be an immense groundswell of other hypnotherapists all chiming in to say that, Yes, we see the same things, all the time, as well. The hard data that ought to be there, if everything is as he claims, does not seem to be there.
 

Dulloldfart

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And that there does not seem to be an immense groundswell of other hypnotherapists all chiming in to say that, Yes, we see the same things, all the time, as well. The hard data that ought to be there, if everything is as he claims, does not seem to be there.

Newton's latest book, Memories of the Afterlife, contains case histories from 32* practitioners who are all "certified members of the Michael Newton Institute for Life Between Lives Hypnotherapy."

I have this book, although I don't think it adds much to the subject beyond widening the number of practitioners vouching for the protocol and subject matter.

*Paul Aurand
Janelle Marie
Bryn Blankinship
Martin Richardson
Sophia Kramer
Deborah Bromley
David M. Pierce
Trish Casimira
Ursula Demarmels
Jimmy E. Quast
Rifa Hodgson
Angela Noon (East Grinstead!)
Stephen Poplin
Susan Wisehart
Joelle McGonagle
Peter Smith
Lynn McGonagill
Lauren Pohn
Andy Tomlinson
Christine Pearson
Nancy Hajek
David Allen
Catherina Severin
Madeline Stringer
Jonathan Yorks
Dorothea Fuckert
Clare Albinson
Scott DeTamble
Tina Zion
Teoh Hooi-Meng
Celia Kakoschke
Georgina Cannon

Paul
 
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RogerB

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Newton's latest book, Memories of the Afterlife, contains case histories from 32* practitioners who are all "certified members of the Michael Newton Institute for Life Between Lives Hypnotherapy."

I have this book, although I don't think it adds much to the subject beyond widening the number of practitioners vouching for the protocol and subject matter.

*Paul Aurand
Janelle Marie
Bryn Blankinship
Martin Richardson
Sophia Kramer
Deborah Bromley
David M. Pierce
Trish Casimira
Ursula Demarmels
Jimmy E. Quast
Rifa Hodgson
Angela Noon (East Grinstead!)
Stephen Poplin
Susan Wisehart
Joelle McGonagle
Peter Smith
Lynn McGonagill
Lauren Pohn
Andy Tomlinson
Christine Pearson
Nancy Hajek
David Allen
Catherina Severin
Madeline Stringer
Jonathan Yorks
Dorothea Fuckert
Clare Albinson
Scott DeTamble
Tina Zion
Teoh Hooi-Meng
Celia Kakoschke
Georgina Cannon

Paul

This does add a fair degree of credibility to the proposition, Paul.

Would be interesting to know what background, prior qualifications, professional experience these folks had before embracing Newton's "tech."

At least these folks are seeking knowledge which is a better proposition than only looking for what is wrong to thus "intervene" in the manner too focused on by medicine and psychology/psychiatric practice.

As Prof. Martin Seligman is quoted as saying:

Professor Martin E.P. Seligman, the (then) president of the American Psychological Association, in the April 28, 1998, edition of The New York Times, Science News section. The article begins:
Psychologists rarely think much about what makes people happy. They focus on what makes them sad, on what makes them anxious. That is why psychology journals have published 45,000 articles in the last 30 years on depression, but only 400 on joy. . . . .

It was not always like that. When psychology began developing as a profession, it had three goals: to identify genius, to heal the sick and to help people live better, happier lives. Over the last half century, however, it has focused almost entirely on pathology, taking the science of medicine, itself structured around disease, as its model. . . .

’That is an imbalance,’ says Martin E.P. Seligman, the new president of the American Psychological Association, and one that he is determined to change. Dr. Seligman, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania . . . has a strategy for reforming a profession he thinks has gone awry. . . .

’Psychology,’ he said, ‘has been negative essentially for 100 years. Theories have generally focused on damage, as have techniques for intervention. Social science has believed negative things were authentic and strengths were coping mechanisms,’ he said. . . .

But what he sees in his (own) children are ‘pure, unadulterated strengths that are not compensations for trauma, but intrinsic.’ Seligman says, ‘I find myself beginning to believe psychology needs to ask, what are the virtues? We need to delineate them, assess them, ask causal questions. What are the interactions? How does it grow? Let’s talk of growth and questions of strength. . . .’

’Rather than spending $10 million on, say, phobias and fears,’ he says, ‘study courage.'​

Rog
 

Student of Trinity

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Re: Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

That's certainly something, and much better than having no-one else at all to replicate Newton's findings. But I wonder, how many hypnotherapists are there? Is 32 a substantial fraction, or a minuscule sampling?

I'd be surprised if 32 were a larger fraction than one or two percent of the total practitioner pool, just because if there were less than a few thousand hypnotherapists in the world, even if we only count the ones who attempt some form of past life regression, then I'd probably never have even heard of the practice before, and I have. But this is a crude estimate and it could be wrong.

Maybe there are really a substantial fraction of relevant hypnotherapists who all find stuff just like Newton reports, and he just picked 32 of them for his latest book. That would be a reasonable thing to do, since hundreds of case studies would be a tedious book to read.

But if 32 were all he could scrape together who were willing to go along with him at all, then I'm afraid that's a small enough number, that it could easily just represent the number of people who wanted to get in on a good racket.

So what I'm really looking for would be conventions or newsletters for hypnotherapists, where professional audiences of hundreds are all saying, Hey, this Newton guy has made sense of a lot of stuff that we've all been seeing! That wouldn't be at all unrealistic, if Newton's claims were true, right? When a really effective new technique emerges in a professional discipline, that's how you see it taking off and being accepted.

Could be that word is still just getting around, I suppose. But it's been a few years now.

Anyway, the point is that 32 is good as far as it goes, but as far as the issue I'm raising is concerned, it's nothing. Hypnotic past life regression has been a fairly widespread practice for decades now. I think there must be thousands of practitioners worldwide. If most of them had been seeing similar stuff for all this time, then Newton's book would have swept the whole movement like a wildfire. Has this happened? Or is he just pulling in a few people?
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Re: Life Between Lives — Dr. Michael Newton

This does add a fair degree of credibility to the proposition, Paul.

Would be interesting to know what background, prior qualifications, professional experience these folks had before embracing Newton's "tech."

Try looking some up online. They shouldn't be hard to find. There is info in the book but I'm not going to type it all out for each one — it's not just a matter of copy/pasting something.

I'll type up a couple if needed, but not many.

Paul
 
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