List of Independent Scientologists; Doctrinal differences

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
If not already listed, these people should perhaps be added to the "Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out" because they have left the official Church of Scientology. That is for others to decide.

I'm making a separate thread because the list raises some separate and distinct issues.

TL;DR summary of interesting points emphasized below:
  1. "As an independent Scientologist you are your own leader." This may signal a move away from rigid, top down hierarchy and a fundamentalist, deductive and text-bound ideology. The proof will be in the conduct and behavior.

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  2. "ANYONE WHO USES ANY PART OF SCIENTOLOGY TECH, even if other parts are not true for you, is welcomed to be on this list. LRH said what's true for you is what's true for YOU. A person who blindly accepts everything is a robot not a Scientologist." This may also signal a move from hierarchy, rigidity, and KSW No. 1 to a more flexible, "use the tools available," "professional judgment" view of the tech that appeared to exist in the 1950s and early 1960s before the creation of the Grade Chart and KSW No. 1 in 1965. Again, the proof will be in the conduct and behavior.

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  3. At least a partial rejection of the practice of "enforced disconnection." However, the phrase, "heavily-abused practice of enforced disconnection" disturbingly seems to imply that a policy of "enforced disconnection" that is not "heavily abused" may be acceptable.

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  4. "Freezoners are naturally invited."

A final observation. Given the total number of official, "on-lines" Scientologists in the world, the current number of 126 independent Scientologists is not insignificant. This is particularly true given the training and auditing levels of the people on the list, and their time and effort investments in Scientology. My guess is that DM is not pleased.

From Scientology-Cult as of 06/15/10 - The Indie 500:
Your life belongs to you. Not to corporate Scientology, a self-appointed dictator/sciopath, or his PTS sycophants. Let's move Scientology toward normalcy by ending the heavily-abused practice of enforced disconnection. Get your name on the list, be one of the first 500 indie Scientologists and take your life back. The ranks of indie Scientologists are growing daily. With enough names on the list we will break the back of disconnection, not because of this list, but because of the power of your communication lines being restored.

Names appear in random sequence. As an independent Scientologist you are your own leader.

ANYONE WHO USES ANY PART OF SCIENTOLOGY TECH, even if other parts are not true for you, is welcomed to be on this list. LRH said what's true for you is what's true for YOU. A person who blindly accepts everything is a robot not a Scientologist. Anyone who retains the right to their own integrity belongs on this list. Freezoners are naturally invited. Send your name to Thoughtful (Steve Hall) at indie500 [at] nyms.net This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it and don't forget details such as years in Scientology, training and process level, or years on staff.

1. Christie King Colbran
2. Steve "Sarge" Pfauth, ex-SO, Int base, personal friend of LRH
3. Hadyn James (T Paine), ex-SO
4. Lucy James, ex-SO
5. Mareka James
6. Kat James
7. Martin Padfield
8. Ignazio Tidu
9. Paul Haggis
10. Mike Rinder, ex-Int base, (CO OSA Int, LRH PPRO Int, WDC OSA)
11. Geir Isene, OT VIII
12. Roberto Sánchez Núñez, Class V
13. Steve Hall, Class IV, OT V, 20 years SO, 16 Int base; blog, website
14. Rob Thomas
15. Tiziano Lugli
16. Jamie Sorrentini Lugli
17. Marty Rathbun, ex-IG Ethics RTC; blog
18. Monique Carle
19. Ivan Obolensky- ex-CO AOLA
20. Eric Knutson, ex-Int base
21. Dan Koon (Joe Howard), Class VI, OT V
22. Mariette Lindstein, ex-RTC
23. Ken Urquhart, ex-LRH Pers Off
24. Jim Logan, OT V
25. Stefan Tunedal, OT VII
26. Katrina Tunedal
27. Samantha "Sam: Domingo, OT V
28. Trey Lotz, Class VIII, OT VIII
29. Silvia Kusada, Class VI, OT VII
30. Lise O'Kane, Grade 0, Class IV C/S
31. Kathy Braceland, Senior CL IV, OT VIII
32. Russ Williams, Class IV
33. Murry Pearlman, Class V, OT V, FEBC
34. Exilda Pearlman, OT VIII, Class VIII
35. Kirsi Ojamo, ex-OSA Int
36. Brad Hagemo, IAS Patron
37. Natalie Hagemo, IAS Patron
38. Jack Airey, 1st service in 1968 at LA Org, Scientologist for 43 years
39. Tom Felts
40. Shannon Kimoto, ex-CMOI
41. Hiro Kimoto, ex-CMOI
42. Boyd Hutchins
43. Sherry Katz, OT VIII
44. Mary Jo Leavitt, OT VIII
45. David St Lawrence, Grad V, OT VII
46. Gretchen (Gilbert) St. Lawrence, OT V
47. Helmut Flasch, OT IV
48. Helen Chen, OT VIII
49. Jan (aka Sims) Weiss
50. David Friesenbichler
51. Michel Puzzolante
52. Colwell V. Garth, Scientnologist 37 years, Former S.O. Gold staff 18 years
53. Linda McGinley SRD, KTL, HQS; OT IV; 1 yr Cl 4 org staff/13 yrs SO/7 yrs at Gold; 35 years Scientologist
54. Sinar Parman, ex-Int base
55. Jackie Wolff, ex-Int base
56. Tom De Vocht, ex-CMO, ex-Int base
57. Shelly Corrias, ex-RTC
58. Bruce Hines, ex CMOI
59. Tim Hines
60. Gary "Jackson" Morehead, ex Security Chief, Int base
61. Mark Fisher, ex-RTC
62. Theo Sismanides
63. Olga Vernardou
64. Jonathan Burke
65. Ralph Hilton
66. Michael Brown, ex-Class V org staff
67. Margaret Kerrigan
68. Greg Cook
69. Don Jason, ex-FSO Exec
70. Ted Horner, ex-Int base
71. Vic Krohn
72. Vicki Krohn
73. Maurice Green
74. Ron Minor, Grad V C/S, Scientologist since 1974, on staff 10 yrs in Las Vegas
75. Ronald Ramirez
76. Steven R. Bode
77. Mike Hunsaker
78. Jeff Pearlman, Grad V C/S, CCRD C/S, FPRD C/S, KTL/LOC C/S, Data Series, on staff for 11 years
79. Cathy Greenbaum
80. Ed Rhett
81. Karen LaPorte, Scientologist 30+ years, Clear, Delphi SFB 17 years, Public Servicing Sec, Stevens Creek Org
82. Mat Pesch (Mr. Peacock), ex-FSO exec
83. John Nunez, Class VI C/S The Pro-LRH Tech Community - Index
84. Paul Adams, Class V, HPCSC, OT IV, 23 years in the SO
85. Dexter Gelfand, 1978 to 1993, New York Org, CCNY & Miami Org
86. Tom Shepard, Class 6 C/S, OT5
87. Mark A. Baker, Scientologist '79, Freezoner '82
88. Deirdre, Clear, on staff 8 years in Orange County, Scientologist since 1978
89. Gabriel Bosch
90. Caspar de Rijk
91. Doug Parent, Clear, Scientologist 30+ years, music director and bassist Freewinds 1989-1990
92. Yin Chew, OTV, Class IV
93. Marta L. Willson, Scientologist since 1969, Clear, OT, ex-Sea Org executive prior to 1980
94. Misha Priv, ex-Sea Org from the Int Base, directed translations units in pioneer areas
95. Dean Blair, Class IX C/S and auditor, joined 1969, left CoS in January 2010
96. Tatiana Baklanova, Class V, 1st Sea Org member in Russia, website
97. Janela Webster, OEC/FEBC, 20 years SO, 15 years at the Int base in RTC
98. Henrik Salbol, Scientologist since 1972, ex-staff in DK, Free Zone since ‘04, NED auditor, OT 8
99. Debora Reynolds, 30 yrs, Clear, ethics training, resigned 24 Nov, 09
100. Bruce Pratt
101. Eileen Clark, 32 yr Scientologist, 25 yr S.O. Veteran, Friend of LRH
102. Sergio M. Mora, Ex-Snr Chaplain FSO, 1984-2001
103. Nathan Rowlands, Pro Sup, Level 1 Auditor, DRD, staff 10 years at ACT Australia
104. David LaCroix, OT IV, Professional FSM
105. Dennis Prunkl, 39-year Scientologist, OT V
106. Dean Thomas, OT V
107. Carol Kramer, OT VII, Class IV, OEC, KTL and LOC trained
108. David Kramer OTV, class lV auditor, KTL, LOC
109. Tara Toucheck Bryant, 12-yr Mission staff, Clear, Grad V C/S, NED C/S
110. Anna Schultz, Scientologist since 1987, Clear
111. Penny Krieger, Clear, L11, KTL-LOC, Scientologist 40 yrs. Independence 2010
112. Patricia Krenik, 57 yrs in Scn, 27 in Freezone, runs Freezone Academy in Elma, WA
113. Ray Krenik
114. Meisha
115. Louise Williams, since 1955, Class VI St Hill 1967, Orig. OT VII, left CoS 1982, on NOTs in Freezone
116. Roy Selby, Grad V Auditor, OEC/FEBC, Original full OT VII, In Scientology since 1970
117. Tommy Ståhl, Cl V Auditor, 3 times on staff: Goteborg 83, CLO 85-86, AOSH DK 2003
118. Tom Martiniano, OT III
119. Linda McCarthy, 39 year Scientologist 32 years SO, OT V, HPCSC, Level II auditor
120. Tom Brown, 38 years in Scientology, NED auditor, New OT IV
121. Rey Robles, 40 yrs. full time auditor & C/S, AOLA, Msn Holder, SHSBC, FreeZone Worldwide
122. Charlie Sweeny: 1950s LRH lecture attendee, research auditing pc., Class IV auditor, ex Msn staff
123. Tony DePhillips, mid New OT VII, Prov. Class IV, and Fully Hatted Ethics Officer
124. Marie-Joe DePhillips, OT V, KTL/LOC, Level G SHSBC
125. Conny Lundberg, 30 yrs in Scn, 2 yrs on staff, OT III, L 12, Class IV, HSSC, Supervisor
126. Ing-Marie Lundberg, 35 yrs in Scn, 3+ yrs on staff, Clear, Class III, NED Auditor, Pro Word Clearer
127. More to come...

WWP Thread: List of Independent Scientologists; Doctrinal differences

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Veda

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[*]"ANYONE WHO USES ANY PART OF SCIENTOLOGY TECH, even if other parts are not true for you, is welcomed to be on this list. LRH said what's true for you is what's true for YOU.



This is some kind of silly "feel good" exercise for accumulating as many people as possible - on a list - who've been tricked into identifying themselves as "Independent Scientologists."

Gee, maybe there are 10 milliion Scientologists, or even a billion Scientologists, after all, didn't "LRH" (the spiritual leader of these "Independent Scientologists," who, per LRH's guidance "think for themselves," etc.) say that people should brush their teeth?

Well, do you brush you teeth? Or maybe you don't brush your teeth but just think that you do? Hey! Then you're a Scientologist!

Yay!!!!!

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Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Funny thing that list. I thought it would accumulate more names than it has.

The list owner (Steve Hall) has a problem with what criteria are needed to go onto the list. Originally it seemed to be for true blue scios, then I asked if I could go on it, pointing out that I didn't consider myself a scio but used the parts of scn I found useful. He said yes, and then added in the bit about who could join, to accommodate others like me I guess.

I don't see too many others like me on there, but, well. . . .

If it seems a bit ridiculous, propose better criteria in your posts here. I'll keep my mouth shut, otherwise I might get kicked off that list, and it suits my purposes to be on it. :)

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Freeminds

Bitter defrocked apostate
A new 'big list'

I'd rather there was nobody who identified him/herself as an 'Independent Scientologist', because I don't believe that there is anything useful to be learned from the ramblings of (paranoid, megalomaniac, racist, bigamist, liar...) Hubbard.

Still, we live in the real world, and human beings are social creatures. Taking that first step towards freedom is easier if you know that there are people - maybe people you remember - on the outside who share common ground with you.

So: a list of freezoners, or whatever they want to call themselves. I imagine that it'll never be a huge list because many people will remove themselves from the list when they complete the process of waking up, but it does no harm* and it might do some good. My enemy's enemy is my friend, sort of thing.

Whether people choose to list themselves is another matter, of course.

(* Unless being named on the list gets you fair-gamed, of course.)
 

Veda

Sponsor
It's very Scientological to allow almost anyone to become a Scientologist, then - gradually - tighten the screws. Front groups are a variation of this, as are many PR outreach efforts.

Person A: Do you like to help others?

Person B: Um.... ah, yes, I guess so...

Person A: Good! Than you're a Scientologist!

Person B: I am? What's that?

Person A: Etc.

The fellow who started this is confused about the inherently devious stratified nature of the subject of Scientology, and - not having quite figured that out, even though Hubbard's May 1955 'Manual on Dissemination' would give him some clues, and Hubbard's 'PR Series', and other writings, more clues - is a little unsteady as he goes along with his efforts.
 

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
You can add my nick to it. Not by name.
Just so you know, I don't maintain the list. I just report on it and cross-post it.

Also, my understanding is that the list only accepts people who have "come out" under their real names, but I could be wrong.


In any event, if you are interested in getting on the list, I suggest you go to:
Scientology-Cult - The Indie 500.

Or, as stated on the page, contact Thoughtful (Steve Hall) at indie500 [at] nyms.net.

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Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
New name in bold.

From: From Scientology-Cult as of 06/29/10 - The Indie 500:

The Indie 500
Monday, 22 February 2010 13:29
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Your life belongs to you. Not to corporate Scientology, a self-appointed dictator/sciopath, or his PTS sycophants. Let's move Scientology toward normalcy by ending the heavily-abused practice of enforced disconnection. Get your name on the list, be one of the first 500 indie Scientologists and take your life back. The ranks of indie Scientologists are growing daily. With enough names on the list we will break the back of disconnection, not because of this list, but because of the power of your communication lines being restored.

Names appear in random sequence. As an independent Scientologist you are your own leader.

ANYONE WHO USES ANY PART OF SCIENTOLOGY TECH, even if other parts are not true for you, is welcomed to be on this list. LRH said what's true for you is what's true for YOU. A person who blindly accepts everything is a robot not a Scientologist. Anyone who retains the right to their own integrity belongs on this list. Freezoners are naturally invited. Send your name to Thoughtful (Steve Hall) at [email protected] This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it and don't forget details such as years in Scientology, training and process level, or years on staff.

1. Christie King Colbran
2. Steve "Sarge" Pfauth, ex-SO, Int base, personal friend of LRH
3. Hadyn James (T Paine), started 1975, on staff 31 yrs, SO 25 years, CL IV C/S, OEC, Clear
4. Lucy James, started 1976, staff 30 yrs, OEC, OT
5. Mareka James
6. Kat James
7. Martin Padfield
8. Ignazio Tidu
9. Paul Haggis
10. Mike Rinder, ex-Int base, (CO OSA Int, LRH PPRO Int, WDC OSA)
11. Geir Isene, OT VIII
12. Roberto Sánchez Núñez, Class V
13. Steve Hall, Class IV, OT V, 20 years SO, 16 Int base; blog, website
14. Rob Thomas
15. Tiziano Lugli
16. Jamie Sorrentini Lugli
17. Marty Rathbun, ex-IG Ethics RTC; blog
18. Monique Carle
19. Ivan Obolensky- ex-CO AOLA
20. Eric Knutson, ex-Int base
21. Dan Koon (Joe Howard), Class VI, OT V
22. Mariette Lindstein, ex-RTC
23. Ken Urquhart, ex-LRH Pers Off
24. Jim Logan, OT V
25. Stefan Tunedal, OT VII
26. Katrina Tunedal
27. Samantha "Sam: Domingo, OT V
28. Trey Lotz, Class VIII, OT VIII
29. Silvia Kusada, Class VI, OT VII
30. Lise O'Kane, Grade 0, Class IV C/S
31. Kathy Braceland, Senior CL IV, OT VIII
32. Russ Williams, Class IV
33. Murry Pearlman, Class V, OT V, FEBC
34. Exilda Pearlman, OT VIII, Class VIII
35. Kirsi Ojamo, ex-OSA Int
36. Brad Hagemo, IAS Patron
37. Natalie Hagemo, IAS Patron
38. Jack Airey, 1st service in 1968 at LA Org, Scientologist for 43 years
39. Tom Felts
40. Shannon Kimoto, ex-CMOI
41. Hiro Kimoto, ex-CMOI
42. Boyd Hutchins
43. Sherry Katz, OT VIII
44. Mary Jo Leavitt, OT VIII
45. David St Lawrence, Grad V, OT VII
46. Gretchen (Gilbert) St. Lawrence, OT V
47. Helmut Flasch, OT IV
48. Helen Chen, OT VIII
49. Jan (aka Sims) Weiss
50. David Friesenbichler
51. Michel Puzzolante
52. Colwell V. Garth, Scientnologist 37 years, Former S.O. Gold staff 18 years
53. Linda McGinley SRD, KTL, HQS; OT IV; 1 yr Cl 4 org staff/13 yrs SO/7 yrs at Gold; 35 years Scientologist
54. Sinar Parman, ex-Int base
55. Jackie Wolff, ex-Int base
56. Tom De Vocht, ex-CMO, ex-Int base
57. Shelly Corrias, ex-RTC
58. Bruce Hines, ex CMOI
59. Tim Hines
60. Gary "Jackson" Morehead, ex Security Chief, Int base
61. Mark Fisher, ex-RTC
62. Theo Sismanides
63. Olga Vernardou
64. Jonathan Burke
65. Ralph Hilton
66. Michael Brown, ex-Class V org staff
67. Margaret Kerrigan
68. Greg Cook
69. Don Jason, ex-FSO Exec
70. Ted Horner, ex-Int base
71. Vic Krohn
72. Vicki Krohn
73. Maurice Green
74. Ron Minor, Grad V C/S, Scientologist since 1974, on staff 10 yrs in Las Vegas
75. Ronald Ramirez
76. Steven R. Bode
77. Mike Hunsaker
78. Jeff Pearlman, Grad V C/S, CCRD C/S, FPRD C/S, KTL/LOC C/S, Data Series, on staff for 11 years
79. Cathy Greenbaum
80. Ed Rhett
81. Karen LaPorte, Scientologist 30+ years, Clear, Delphi SFB 17 years, Public Servicing Sec, Stevens Creek Org
82. Mat Pesch (Mr. Peacock), ex-FSO exec
83. John Nunez, Class VI C/S http://lrhtech.hostoi.com/index.php
84. Paul Adams, Class V, HPCSC, OT IV, 23 years in the SO
85. Dexter Gelfand, 1978 to 1993, New York Org, CCNY & Miami Org
86. Tom Shepard, Class 6 C/S, OT5
87. Mark A. Baker, Scientologist '79, Freezoner '82
88. Deirdre, Clear, on staff 8 years in Orange County, Scientologist since 1978
89. Gabriel Bosch
90. Caspar de Rijk
91. Doug Parent, Clear, Scientologist 30+ years, music director and bassist Freewinds 1989-1990
92. Yin Chew, OTV, Class IV
93. Marta L. Willson, Scientologist since 1969, Clear, OT, ex-Sea Org executive prior to 1980
94. Misha Priv, ex-Sea Org from the Int Base, directed translations units in pioneer areas
95. Dean Blair, Class IX C/S and auditor, joined 1969, left CoS in January 2010
96. Tatiana Baklanova, Class V, 1st Sea Org member in Russia, website
97. Janela Webster, OEC/FEBC, 20 years SO, 15 years at the Int base in RTC
98. Henrik Salbol, Scientologist since 1972, ex-staff in DK, Free Zone since ‘04, NED auditor, OT 8
99. Debora Reynolds, 30 yrs, Clear, ethics training, resigned 24 Nov, 09
100. Bruce Pratt
101. Eileen Clark, 32 yr Scientologist, 25 yr S.O. Veteran, Friend of LRH
102. Sergio M. Mora, Ex-Snr Chaplain FSO, 1984-2001
103. Nathan Rowlands, Pro Sup, Level 1 Auditor, DRD, staff 10 years at ACT Australia
104. David LaCroix, OT IV, Professional FSM, www.freeheber.com
105. Dennis Prunkl, 39-year Scientologist, OT V
106. Dean Thomas, OT V
107. Carol Kramer, OT VII, Class IV, OEC, KTL and LOC trained
108. David Kramer OTV, class lV auditor, KTL, LOC
109. Tara Toucheck Bryant, 12-yr Mission staff, Clear, Grad V C/S, NED C/S
110. Anna Schultz, Scientologist since 1987, Clear
111. Penny Krieger, Clear, L11, KTL-LOC, Scientologist 40 yrs. Independence 2010
112. Patricia Krenik, 57 yrs in Scn, 27 in Freezone, runs Freezone Academy in Elma, WA
113. Ray Krenik
114. Meisha
115. Louise Williams, since 1955, Class VI St Hill 1967, Orig. OT VII, left CoS 1982, on NOTs in Freezone
116. Roy Selby, Grad V Auditor, OEC/FEBC, Original full OT VII, In Scientology since 1970
117. Tommy Ståhl, Cl V Auditor, 3 times on staff: Goteborg 83, CLO 85-86, AOSH DK 2003
118. Tom Martiniano, OT III
119. Linda McCarthy, 39 year Scientologist 32 years SO, OT V, HPCSC, Level II auditor
120. Tom Brown, 38 years in Scientology, NED auditor, New OT IV
121. Rey Robles, 40 yrs. full time auditor & C/S, AOLA, Msn Holder, SHSBC, http://freezoneworldwide.info
122. Charlie Sweeny: 1950s LRH lecture attendee, research auditing pc., Class IV auditor, ex Msn staff
123. Tony DePhillips, mid New OT VII, Prov. Class IV, and Fully Hatted Ethics Officer
124. Marie-Joe DePhillips, OT V, KTL/LOC, Level G SHSBC
125. Conny Lundberg, 30 yrs in Scn, 2 yrs on staff, OT III, L 12, Class IV, HSSC, Supervisor
126. Ing-Marie Lundberg, 35 yrs in Scn, 3+ yrs on staff, Clear, Class III, NED Auditor, Pro Word Clearer
127. Lana Mitchell, ex-RTC, 10 yrs Int base staff, 15 yrs Sea Org
128. Marsha (Pearlman) Sorensen, OT III, Class VI, 7 years AOLA staff
129. Lisa Hamilton, SO 22 years, Senior HCO, left in 2008
130. Chris Guider, ex-RTC, 24 yrs SO, OT V, Cl IX, HSSC, FPRD Aud, Scn Magistrate, OEC 0, 1, 2
131. Valeska Guider, 17 yrs SO, Clear, HSSC, Pro Sup, HRD Auditor, PTS Rdn Auditor, OEC 0
132. Karen De La Carriere/Jentzsch, LRH-trained Class XII C/S, Karendelac [at] @gmail.com
133. More to come...
 

freethinker

Sponsor
This makes an interesting point. The ex Scientologists of ESMB are publicly speaking out about Scientology.

So the list should include al exes that speak out publicly, name known or not.

or

The list should state those that have spoken out whose names are known.

The list would be much longer if you included those who have not divulged their name.

Also there's a lot of OT's and SO on the list.
You can add my nick to it. Not by name.
 

Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
So the list should include al exes that speak out publicly, name known or not.
No, because the List specifically states:
ANYONE WHO USES ANY PART OF SCIENTOLOGY TECH, even if other parts are not true for you, is welcomed to be on this list.
If an Ex doesn't use any part of the Tech, then the Ex is not welcome on the list, doesn't belong on the list, and probably doesn't want to be on the list anyway.

Also, my clear understanding is that the List if for people who are publicly out -- i.e., using their real names.

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freethinker

Sponsor
This is what I was refering to and answers my question as well.

[QUOTE by Right ON]

The Big List includes only former members who have spoken out against the Church of Scientology's crimes and abuses in their own names, not using a pseudonym. The list includes people who still consider themselves Scientologists and people who do not. Many of the people named spoke out first years, even decades, ago. Many others spoke out for the first time in the last few weeks and months. Every person on the list has given a great gift to others. Together, their voices cannot ever be silenced. [/QUOTE]








No, because the List specifically states:If an Ex doesn't use any part of the Tech, then the Ex is not welcome on the list, doesn't belong on the list, and probably doesn't want to be on the list anyway.

Also, my clear understanding is that the List if for people who are publicly out -- i.e., using their real names.

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Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
This is what I was refering to and answers my question as well.

[QUOTE by Right ON]

The Big List
How funny that the source of the confusion is a MU -- a misunderstood word.

There are two lists.

The first, the one Right ON is referring to and contributes to, is the Big List of over 1000 Exes Who Have Spoken Out maintained at WWP.

The second list, the one I'm referring to in this thread, is the List of Independent Scientologists -- properly known as the Indie 500 -- which is maintained at Scientology-Cult.

I've been keeping track of the List of Independent Scientologists -- i.e., the Indie 500 -- and cross-posting it here and on WWP.

Obviously, the lists are not identical.

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Kha Khan

Patron Meritorious
New names in bold.

From: From Scientology-Cult as of 07/06/10 - The Indie 500:

The Indie 500
Monday, 22 February 2010 13:29
0diggsdigg

Your life belongs to you. Not to corporate Scientology, a self-appointed dictator/sciopath, or his PTS sycophants. Let's move Scientology toward normalcy by ending the heavily-abused practice of enforced disconnection. Get your name on the list, be one of the first 500 indie Scientologists and take your life back. The ranks of indie Scientologists are growing daily. With enough names on the list we will break the back of disconnection, not because of this list, but because of the power of your communication lines being restored.

Names appear in random sequence. As an independent Scientologist you are your own leader.

ANYONE WHO USES ANY PART OF SCIENTOLOGY TECH, even if other parts are not true for you, is welcomed to be on this list. LRH said what's true for you is what's true for YOU. A person who blindly accepts everything is a robot not a Scientologist. Anyone who retains the right to their own integrity belongs on this list. Freezoners are naturally invited. Send your name to Thoughtful (Steve Hall) at [email protected] This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it and don't forget details such as years in Scientology, training and process level, or years on staff.

1. Christie King Colbran
2. Steve "Sarge" Pfauth, ex-SO, Int base, personal friend of LRH
3. Hadyn James (T Paine), started 1975, on staff 31 yrs, SO 25 years, CL IV C/S, OEC, Clear
4. Lucy James, started 1976, staff 30 yrs, OEC, OT
5. Mareka James
6. Kat James
7. Martin Padfield
8. Ignazio Tidu
9. Paul Haggis
10. Mike Rinder, ex-Int base, (CO OSA Int, LRH PPRO Int, WDC OSA)
11. Geir Isene, OT VIII
12. Roberto Sánchez Núñez, Class V
13. Steve Hall, Class IV, OT V, 20 years SO, 16 Int base; blog, website
14. Rob Thomas
15. Tiziano Lugli
16. Jamie Sorrentini Lugli
17. Marty Rathbun, ex-IG Ethics RTC; blog
18. Monique Carle
19. Ivan Obolensky- ex-CO AOLA
20. Eric Knutson, ex-Int base
21. Dan Koon (Joe Howard), Class VI, OT V
22. Mariette Lindstein, ex-RTC
23. Ken Urquhart, ex-LRH Pers Off
24. Jim Logan, OT V
25. Stefan Tunedal, OT VII
26. Katrina Tunedal
27. Samantha "Sam: Domingo, OT V
28. Trey Lotz, Class VIII, OT VIII
29. Silvia Kusada, Class VI, OT VII
30. Lise O'Kane, Grade 0, Class IV C/S
31. Kathy Braceland, Senior CL IV, OT VIII
32. Russ Williams, Class IV
33. Murry Pearlman, Class V, OT V, FEBC
34. Exilda Pearlman, OT VIII, Class VIII
35. Kirsi Ojamo, ex-OSA Int
36. Brad Hagemo, IAS Patron
37. Natalie Hagemo, IAS Patron
38. Jack Airey, 1st service in 1968 at LA Org, Scientologist for 43 years
39. Tom Felts
40. Shannon Kimoto, ex-CMOI
41. Hiro Kimoto, ex-CMOI
42. Boyd Hutchins
43. Sherry Katz, OT VIII
44. Mary Jo Leavitt, OT VIII
45. David St Lawrence, Grad V, OT VII
46. Gretchen (Gilbert) St. Lawrence, OT V
47. Helmut Flasch, OT IV
48. Helen Chen, OT VIII
49. Jan (aka Sims) Weiss
50. David Friesenbichler
51. Michel Puzzolante
52. Colwell V. Garth, Scientnologist 37 years, Former S.O. Gold staff 18 years
53. Linda McGinley SRD, KTL, HQS; OT IV; 1 yr Cl 4 org staff/13 yrs SO/7 yrs at Gold; 35 years Scientologist
54. Sinar Parman, ex-Int base
55. Jackie Wolff, ex-Int base
56. Tom De Vocht, ex-CMO, ex-Int base
57. Shelly Corrias, ex-RTC
58. Bruce Hines, ex CMOI
59. Tim Hines
60. Gary "Jackson" Morehead, ex Security Chief, Int base
61. Mark Fisher, ex-RTC
62. Theo Sismanides
63. Olga Vernardou
64. Jonathan Burke
65. Ralph Hilton
66. Michael Brown, ex-Class V org staff
67. Margaret Kerrigan
68. Greg Cook
69. Don Jason, ex-FSO Exec
70. Ted Horner, ex-Int base
71. Vic Krohn
72. Vicki Krohn
73. Maurice Green
74. Ron Minor, Grad V C/S, Scientologist since 1974, on staff 10 yrs in Las Vegas
75. Ronald Ramirez
76. Steven R. Bode
77. Mike Hunsaker
78. Jeff Pearlman, Grad V C/S, CCRD C/S, FPRD C/S, KTL/LOC C/S, Data Series, on staff for 11 years
79. Cathy Greenbaum
80. Ed Rhett
81. Karen LaPorte, Scientologist 30+ years, Clear, Delphi SFB 17 years, Public Servicing Sec, Stevens Creek Org
82. Mat Pesch (Mr. Peacock), ex-FSO exec
83. John Nunez, Class VI C/S The Pro-LRH Tech Community - Index
84. Paul Adams, Class V, HPCSC, OT IV, 23 years in the SO
85. Dexter Gelfand, 1978 to 1993, New York Org, CCNY & Miami Org
86. Tom Shepard, Class 6 C/S, OT5
87. Mark A. Baker, Scientologist '79, Freezoner '82
88. Deirdre, Clear, on staff 8 years in Orange County, Scientologist since 1978
89. Gabriel Bosch
90. Caspar de Rijk
91. Doug Parent, Clear, Scientologist 30+ years, music director and bassist Freewinds 1989-1990
92. Yin Chew, OTV, Class IV
93. Marta L. Willson, Scientologist since 1969, Clear, OT, ex-Sea Org executive prior to 1980
94. Misha Priv, ex-Sea Org from the Int Base, directed translations units in pioneer areas
95. Dean Blair, Class IX C/S and auditor, joined 1969, left CoS in January 2010
96. Tatiana Baklanova, Class V, 1st Sea Org member in Russia, website
97. Janela Webster, OEC/FEBC, 20 years SO, 15 years at the Int base in RTC
98. Henrik Salbol, Scientologist since 1972, ex-staff in DK, Free Zone since ‘04, NED auditor, OT 8
99. Debora Reynolds, 30 yrs, Clear, ethics training, resigned 24 Nov, 09
100. Bruce Pratt
101. Eileen Clark, 32 yr Scientologist, 25 yr S.O. Veteran, Friend of LRH
102. Sergio M. Mora, Ex-Snr Chaplain FSO, 1984-2001
103. Nathan Rowlands, Pro Sup, Level 1 Auditor, DRD, staff 10 years at ACT Australia
104. David LaCroix, OT IV, Professional FSM, FREEHEBER
105. Dennis Prunkl, 39-year Scientologist, OT V
106. Dean Thomas, OT V
107. Carol Kramer, OT VII, Class IV, OEC, KTL and LOC trained
108. David Kramer OTV, class lV auditor, KTL, LOC
109. Tara Toucheck Bryant, 12-yr Mission staff, Clear, Grad V C/S, NED C/S
110. Anna Schultz, Scientologist since 1987, Clear
111. Penny Krieger, Clear, L11, KTL-LOC, Scientologist 40 yrs. Independence 2010
112. Patricia Krenik, 57 yrs in Scn, 27 in Freezone, runs Freezone Academy in Elma, WA
113. Ray Krenik
114. Meisha
115. Louise Williams, since 1955, Class VI St Hill 1967, Orig. OT VII, left CoS 1982, on NOTs in Freezone
116. Roy Selby, Grad V Auditor, OEC/FEBC, Original full OT VII, In Scientology since 1970
117. Tommy Ståhl, Cl V Auditor, 3 times on staff: Goteborg 83, CLO 85-86, AOSH DK 2003
118. Tom Martiniano, OT III
119. Linda McCarthy, 39 year Scientologist 32 years SO, OT V, HPCSC, Level II auditor
120. Tom Brown, 38 years in Scientology, NED auditor, New OT IV
121. Rey Robles, 40 yrs. full time auditor & C/S, AOLA, Msn Holder, SHSBC, FreeZone Worldwide
122. Charlie Sweeny: 1950s LRH lecture attendee, research auditing pc., Class IV auditor, ex Msn staff
123. Tony DePhillips, mid New OT VII, Prov. Class IV, and Fully Hatted Ethics Officer
124. Marie-Joe DePhillips, OT V, KTL/LOC, Level G SHSBC
125. Conny Lundberg, 30 yrs in Scn, 2 yrs on staff, OT III, L 12, Class IV, HSSC, Supervisor
126. Ing-Marie Lundberg, 35 yrs in Scn, 3+ yrs on staff, Clear, Class III, NED Auditor, Pro Word Clearer
127. Lana Mitchell, ex-RTC, 10 yrs Int base staff, 15 yrs Sea Org
128. Marsha (Pearlman) Sorensen, OT III, Class VI, 7 years AOLA staff
129. Lisa Hamilton, SO 22 years, Senior HCO, left in 2008
130. Chris Guider, ex-RTC, 24 yrs SO, OT V, Cl IX, HSSC, FPRD Aud, Scn Magistrate, OEC 0, 1, 2
131. Valeska Guider, 17 yrs SO, Clear, HSSC, Pro Sup, HRD Auditor, PTS Rdn Auditor, OEC 0
132. Karen De La Carriere/Jentzsch, LRH-trained Class XII C/S, Karendelac [at] @gmail.com
133. Richard Frazer
134. Jean Tox

135. More to come...
 

Panda Termint

Cabal Of One
Perhaps it may interest some to know that the idea behind the list of those who had left the CofS was originated a lot closer to home than its current usage would suggest.

The original idea was to post a list of those willing to identify themselves as having left the CofS in protest over its crimes, corruption and abuses. It was intended originally to inform still-in scientologists of where their friends stood on the matter and why they had chosen to leave the CofS.

As a still-in scientologist scanned through page after page of names and faces they were bound to encounter someone (or many people) that they actually knew personally. The list was to include photos, Training Level, Case Level and CofS bona-fides etc. This, it was proposed, would give them cause to think.

It was (and probably still is) a good idea from that perspective.
 

Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
This is what I was refering to and answers my question as well.

The Big List includes only former members who have spoken out against the Church of Scientology's crimes and abuses in their own names, not using a pseudonym. The list includes people who still consider themselves Scientologists and people who do not. Many of the people named spoke out first years, even decades, ago. Many others spoke out for the first time in the last few weeks and months. Every person on the list has given a great gift to others. Together, their voices cannot ever be silenced.

It's a bit contradictory isn't it to be on a list claiming to be an "Independent Scientologist", if you don't consider yourself to be a Scientologist? And, by being on the list, you're asserting legitimacy & credibility in the writings by L. Ron Hubbard? I'm confused.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
It's a bit contradictory isn't it to be on a list claiming to be an "Independent Scientologist", if you don't consider yourself to be a Scientologist? And, by being on the list, you're asserting legitimacy & credibility in the writings by L. Ron Hubbard? I'm confused.

The problem started with me. :D

In the beginning there was no obvious contradiction. It was a simple Independent Scientologists list. I wrote to Steve Hall and said I'd like to be on the list, but I didn't actually consider myself a Scio any more although I did use the parts of Scn that I found useful. I noted that Mark Headley (BFG) was on the list, and he uses far less of it than I do.

So Steve put me on the list and added the "explanation" at the top. Steve's 100+ list is at heart simply a list of people with Scn connections who want to be on it. Anything more specific than that would be false. The 1000+ "Big List" is a different list.

Oh, I noticed the links now appearing so I just asked him to add a link to my Yawnguy website next to my name (#84) and he now has. Nice guy. :)

Paul
 
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