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Little Miscavige Slaps Preclear

Discussion in 'David Miscavige and Current Management' started by AnonKat, Oct 3, 2010.

  1. Royal Prince Xenu

    Royal Prince Xenu Trust the Psi Corps.

    I came to the conclusion that I was PTS to Scientology, but how can that be? Scientology is our savior, not an SP Entity... I also understand your desire to have your face buried under a pillow--whether you have spiritual outlook or not, suicide eventually becomes the "final solution" to pain control, sometimes emotional, often physical.

    My life may not be fantastic right now, because I'm finally learning how much destruction has been done in ignorance of my true state of health, but as long as I avoid any stressful situations (which can even mean washing the dishes), I subsist. Thanks to Dr Jean Fergus Macfarlaine, I now know the Panacea that I seek to recover, and the trick is to find naturapaths and allopaths who will combine their efforts rather than stand on their own doctrinal principles so that the patient is the one who benefits rather than just their bank balances.
  2. The Great Zorg

    The Great Zorg Gold Meritorious Patron

    You're all missing the point I think:

    "Steroids" fall into a wide class of drugs used for different purposes. They all mimic the effect of the body's own steroids. There are some man-made steroids for muscle building, different man-made steroids for the treatment of inflammation and congestion and other man-made steroids for sex characteristics, on and on. :yes:

    Saying someone is "taking steroids" must include a qualifier as to why they are taking them. "Puffers" for asthma can be steroid anti-inflammatory's, decongestants, vasodilators (to open up the air passages) and others. The last, the dilators, can have rage side effects: I've seen it myself with a family member using them. :yes:

    Nonetheless, miscavige striking a "preclear" is ASSAULT AND BATTERY, in any country in the world. That is the crime he committed. It is not important that he was "taking meds" as many, many people have side effects from asthma meds but do not go around beating on people. He should have been charged, but like almost any other organization would do, it was covered up. :confused2:
  3. Wisened One

    Wisened One Crusader

    RPX: You said: I've eventually solved it by getting rid of all the allergens in my diet--and boy! Aren't there many of them!

    I hear ya! :yes: For I've recently done the same thing and I feel TONS better! :yes: I also had sort of like asthmatic type symptoms (and even worse than that, my throat would close up and my tongue would swell for a few horrifying seconds in the middle of the night forcing me to wake up gasping for air! :omg:)

    In my case, it is milk. Always been allergic to it from birth, but last few years had more severe symptoms and reactions, so eliminated all milk and I'm fine as wine, now! :thumbsup:
  4. Royal Prince Xenu

    Royal Prince Xenu Trust the Psi Corps.

    No, Zorg! Your wrong! Completely wrong. The pc pulled it in, and probably had to do lower conditions and other Ethics handlings requiring the payment of more $$$.
  5. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    And there we go. Confusion is what people get assigned just because it's the lowest condition.:duh:
  6. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Oh, I don't know. I've heard of various lower ones over the years, usually as jokes with formulas like "Find out who your father really is."

  7. Kutta

    Kutta Silver Meritorious Patron

    Once Bitten, thank you for your informative post. It must've been a truly terrible time for you coming off the prednisone cos what you describe you felt at that time is so totally the opposite of your nature, being such a fun, go-get-em girl! Luv to you.
  8. Ogsonofgroo

    Ogsonofgroo Crusader

    :roflmao: Paul, you may be 'dull' but sometimes mon.... :roflmao:

    (pretty close to the confusion of Father's Day on this rock lolol)

  9. The Great Zorg

    The Great Zorg Gold Meritorious Patron


    Jeesh! I don't know what I was thinking! Looks like it's 10 hours of amends. :bigcry:

    On the day I die I'm gonna float off, track down hubbard, wherever he is and kick his ass big time! :yes:
  10. Kookaburra

    Kookaburra Gold Meritorious Patron

    I think the steroids are not that relevant. What we have here is two eye witnesses to Miscavige assaulting a preclear in session and getting thrown off the internship. This is wonderful. Every Scientologist should know about this. Let them try and justify that!
  11. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    Little Miscavige Slaps Preclear
    "Feel my fingers" ?
  12. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    The same way they justify L Ron Hubbard locking a 10 year old boy into a ship's chain locker for days on end.
  13. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Someone just sent me this, saying they got it as an email from a Class V Org:

    Have you ever thought about becoming a Church staff member and doubted your ability to do it? Have a look at what L. Ron Hubbard says about that subject:

    “I give you a warning on this, if you’re ever being processed by me.

    “The last preclear who said to me bluntly, ‘I can’t do that,’ got a book right in his chest. He didn’t even know it was coming. Horrible thing to do to a preclear – complete violation of the Auditor’s Code. But I’ve listened to it so much that I won’t take it anymore …

    “I said in so many words, ‘Don’t you ever, when I am around again, don’t you ever tell me you can’t do something. Just do it.’ And I’ll be a son of a gun if the preclear didn’t!

    “I don’t advise this in any way. I was just showing you how thin my patience had worn, finally, in listening to all of the ‘can’ts’. Because the funny part of it is that they can. They can.”

    L. Ron Hubbard
    Plan of Auditing
    20 November 1953​

    Now, in the approximate 1974 time period when David "Tiny Dick Syndrome" Miscavige was on the Internship I really doubt that this little nugget would have been available to him. It's certainly not in the Academy Levels!

  14. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    I don't know how the hell anyone who was present at the time justified it but the average scientologist doesn't need to justify this, they don't know about it. I was in for 34 years and never heard anything about it.
  15. renegade

    renegade Silver Meritorious Patron

    There is a policy about making noise outside of the auditing rooms. The second time a person does this is an instant declare.

    Why wasn't he declared right then? He would definately have known such a lesser offense was bad enough, let alone hit the pc.

    How did he ever get that far on training with such blatant ptsness is my question. If ALL matter of illnesses of any degree is a sign of being pts, hence NO TRAINING until handled.
  16. Touchstone

    Touchstone Patron

    I agree that the steroids question is beside the point, but since people seem curious:

    The muscle-builders are called anabolic steroids.
    The asthma-treatment ones are corticosteroids.

    In my childhood, I took pill-form corticosteroids to combat my asthma (in addition to a bunch of other drugs). Since they go all the way through the bloodstream, side effects are common. I now have the beginnings of cataracts and those childhood pills probably contributed. Mood swings (rage) are also a possible side effect.

    An inhaled corticosteroid ('asthmacort' might be the name) goes directly to the lungs, so can be applied in smaller doses and have fewer side-effects. This is my daily preventative regimen (along with a variant of Flonase). I carry albuterol as my 'rescue breather,' but almost never need it. Before the asthmacort, I was using my albuterol inhaler almost daily. I have a prescription for the steroid pills in case I need a quick bump because the usual regimen suddenly proving inadequate.

    Davey's still responsible for his actions even if some meds influenced his moods.
  17. Kutta

    Kutta Silver Meritorious Patron

    To a scientologist, for an auditor to strike a pc would be unconscionable. It would be a crime of the highest order, actually unimaginable.
  18. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    I can't help but wonder if Ron Miscavige Snr slapped Dave when he was a kid.

    It's funny, I've met all the Miscaviges but Dave. I even know his twin sister.
  19. Stat

    Stat Gold Meritorious Patron

    Thank you, Oggie. And I know what you mean. :hug: :cheers:
  20. Stat

    Stat Gold Meritorious Patron

    Wow, you've got interesting stories!
    And you probably onto something in here, Freethinker...
    Or Dave is simply an incarnation of all what can go wrong
    with one being born in Scn/SO and subjected to the top mgmt
    strata from the young age in crucial/critical times. Bad time, bad place?
    Although, fucked up parenting can be easily part of it.
    Anyone knows Dave's Dad personally?
    All I know he was playing a trumpet at Gold or some such..