Re: Looking for people who have left scientology and are now struggling with addictio
I am currently casting a documentary about addiction and scientology. If you or your family member left Scientology and is now currently addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, please email me at
[email protected].
Thanks
Bryan
Hi, "Bryan," people do not leave Scientology because of "unhandled drugs," and absence of Scientology does not lead to drug use. Those are Scientology propaganda lines.
Scientology likes to identify itself with being "drug free," and it has a number of front groups that promote themselves as being "anti-drug."
Many people have been harmed by Scientology, and by its front groups, including its "anti-drug" front groups.
People have also been harmed - and some have died - by Scientology substituting itself for psychiatric assistance, going so far as to follow L. Ron Hubbard's instructions for involuntarily imprisoning others behind the walls of its many tax exempt properties.
By the way, Scientology obtained its tax exemption by fraud, harassment, and black mail, and these three items remain key components of Scientology.
Scientology likes to "collect data" on people. Its primary means of collecting data - aside from the use of Private Investigators - is through "counseling," sometimes called "auditing." Scientology provides "counseling" through its so called "churches," and sometimes through its front groups.
All information collected by Scientology is available for use to Scientology's advantage, for purposes of manipulation, and for "black PR," "black propaganda," and as blackmail.
Do your 'documentary" on these topics and someone might take you seriously.
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As most know, the first "druggie" in Scientology was its founder. (Quoted posts from ESMB in
Fire Brick .)
Here's a partial collection of information on Hubbard's drug and alcohol outlook and use.
From 'Terra Incognita: The Mind':
"
The best stimulant is Benzedrine. In its absence an overdose of coffee will do."
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From 'Dianetics, The Modern Science of Mental Health' (1950):
"
Opium is less harmful [than alcohol],
marijuana is not only less physically harmful but also better in the action of keeping a neurotic producing, phenobarbital does not dull the senses nearly as much and produces less after effect..."
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From a 'Philadelphia Doctorate Course' lectures (1952):
Lecture 27: "
The body - He has never used it. He's taken care of it."
Lecture 33: "
There isn't any reason it shouldn't drink all the liquor it can hold... be perfectly free to use the body in any way he chooses."
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Ron Jr. from 'Messiah or Madman?' (concerning the 1950s):
"
My whole life I've always marveled at his capacity to consume alcohol and remain upright and coherent. A fifth of Myers dark run was like two aspirin to dad...
"
He [Hubbard Sr.]
would sit at his typewriter late at night and boost up on drugs and hit way at the top, and just write like crazy. He could type 97 words a minute with four fingers. That was the maximum the old IBM electric typewriter would go. When he got into one of these drugs trips, he'd write until the body just collapsed.
"
That's the way he worked. Usually what he had written in a burst would then be allowed to trickle out to the public, the classes he taught. It just wouldn't show up right away."
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Hubbard's bottle a night at St. Hill, and how it was discreetly discarded the next morning:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=72911&postcount=11
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From 'Keeping Scientology Working' (1965):
"
We will not speculate here on... how I came to rise above the bank."
A few excerpts from the John McMaster interview in the book, 'Messiah or Madman?' (McMaster was "the first real Clear"):
"...
In all the years of working for him I found that he absolutely despised people for being Scientologists."
McMaster commented on an encounter with Hubbard at St. Hill, when he urgently needed to relay a message:
"
Well, it was about mid day. He was just getting up. He was a night owl. Anyway, I got up there and he was in his bathroom, which was attached to his bedroom. He came out and I was surprised at the color of his body. It was grey. He came out nude.
"
And there on the table was one of those enormous bottles of Gin."
On the Apollo, McMaster witnessed Hubbard's drug supply, "
It was the largest drug chest I had ever seen. He had everything!"
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From Aleister Crowley's 'The Book of the Law':
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We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit; let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of Kings: stamp down the wretched and the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
"...
I am the snake that giveth knowledge and delight, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs. They shall not harm ye at all. It is a lie, this folly against self...
"...
The Kings of Earth shall be the Kings forever: the slaves shall serve.
"
Them that seek to entrap thee, to overthrow thee, them attack without pity or quarter; and destroy them utterly."
The 'Law of Thelema' is "Do What Thou Wilt." For Crowleyites, its "Bible" is 'The Book of The Law'.
http://www.lawbright.com/logdos/crow.jpg
From one of Jack Parsons' letters to Aleister Crowley, re. Hubbard: "
He [Hubbard]
is the most Thelemic person I have ever met..."
And from Jack Parsons, Hubbard's "Magic(k)al partner" for a time in 1946. Parsons wrote this poem, which appeared in 1943, in the 'Oriflamme' Journal of the O.T.O:
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I hight Don Quixote, I live on Peyote, Marijuana,
"
Morphine and Cocaine,
"
I never know sadness, but only a madness,
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That burns in the heart and the brain.
"
I see each charwoman, ecstatic, inhuman, angelic, demonic, divine.
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Each wagon a dragon, each beer mug a flagon
"
That burns with ambrosial wine."
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Some more links re. alcohol and drugs (Rum, Pinks and Grays, etc.):
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/OTIII/bts-or-dts.txt
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Excerpts from a post from
Challenge from 2009:
LRH used drugs. He did not enjoy Marijuana. He said it gave him bad breath... He preferred chemicals. All kinds, mixed up together. That includes prescription meds. I don't know their names. Tuinal might be one, or it could have been 2-in-all. Either way, it was Cocaine and Heroin mixed together.
Cocaine was in use. Peyote. Lsd. Mr Hubbard preferred Amphetamines, such as Dexedrine and Benzedrine...
From Phenom
anon a.k.a. Challenge from January 2014:
I have told you before...maybe on ARS when I was posting as Ladayla...that LRH got the idea of Exteriorization from Tom Melody in @ 1951.
They were smoking pot, and Tom said that Wow! He was really out of his head. Lrh said, really? you can do that? and the idea of Exterior was born.
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DartSmohen, February 2008:
I guess it is time to put some truth out about OT3.
I was there when Hubbard was winding up his research (Las Palmas 67.)
We were the Sea Project, long before the Sea Org was created.
You have to understand the level of drugs Hubbard was on at the time. This was well after his cocaine and Phenobarbitone stuff of the 50's. He was heavily into barbituates, codene etc. He had a shore base called "Estrella", down the coast. I saw his pharmecutical store there, it was huge.
The original 3 materials were handwritten and photocopied backwards, so you had to hold them to a mirror to read them. I read them all when I was Chief of Advanced Courses on the ship. It was just like a 1050's science fiction story.
We had our first inkling of what was coming before we set sail fom the UK in April/May 67. Hubbard put out a confidential SP declare on one of our staff, John Laurence (former chaplain at St Hill). In it he stated that John was no longer the person we thought he was, having been taken over by another or other beings.
In Las Palmas Hubbard used to talk quite openly about his "research". He used to say that the main street in Gran Canaria was exactly like it was 75 million years ago, exact in every detail. He got some really funny looks from several members of the crew. I don't think there was more than a couple of members who bought into the story. In order to satisfy the rest of us he added a line about Loyal Officers. This was a clever move as it allowed us to simply say that we never got the implant as we were away at the time.
Outside the dockyard there was a church. On Feast Days (there were many) an evening service took place. It was dark and there was always a small crowd.
First there was a candle lit procession, followed by a loud bang, then a series of flashing lights, another procession came out from the church, led by men carrying poles on which figures of cherubs were mounted. Following this came a replica of the ark of the covenant, with a winged chariot on it. The procession traversed around the forecourt.All the time preyers were being said, led by a priest in long robes. Then firecrackers went off and the candles were extinguished, leaving the place in darkness as the processions re-entered the church.
Hubbard used to say that this was a replica of Inc 1. I wonder where he got the idea of Inc 1 from?
It is up to each person to decide for themselves if they wish to subscribe to the theory and story of OT3. I just thought that a bit of background info might help you to align your thoughts.
In case you are wondering whether any of this is true or not, ask Alan. He was there too
From Alan Walter, February 2008:
It is true!
The write up that is of Darth!
Addendum: Alan Walter and Darth knew Hubbard at St. Hill in England, and were students on the first Class VIII course in 1968. Challenge, a.k.a. Phenom
anon, became involved with Scientology in the early 1950s, and even smoked a joint with Hubbard, in Phoenix, in 1953.
There is much more on Hubbard's drug use, including evidence revealed during Armstrong vs Church of Scientology, but this is a pretty good sampling.
Hubbard became especially concerned with drugs in 1968, when he decided that drugs and reduced income were related. Soon thereafter, Pamela Kemp, another old time Scientologist, presented Hubbard with her idea of a "Dianetic Drug Rundown." Conveniently, this Drug Rundown provided an easy means for every new Scientologist (it was one of the first actions done) to give a list of all illegal drugs used to the blackmail-collecting Scientology operation.