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Over at MR blog there is talk of a second secret war record that conveniently popped up when Andy Lenarcic was doing research that matched LRH claims. Who was involved in this ?
Although records are good I wonder if people have first or second hand knowledge about this.
Although records are good I wonder if people have first or second hand knowledge about this.
haydn // April 17, 2010 at 12:24 am
Will,
I’d like to throw in my two cents worth.
Though, like Marty, I find it hard to get into a general discussion on the subject of claims regarding LRH’s past, I have an intesting story to impart.
Back in the mid 1980s I worked with Marty in the Church’s legal department and I was handling a case which dealt in part with LRH’s credentials. Specifically parts of his WWII war record, how he commanded a sub chaser, was a fantastic leader of men, fought Japanese subs off the West Coast of ther USA, was injured but recovered and other similar points.
I knew of such claims about LRH’s past and like a good Scientologist just assumed they were true, but the sheer amount and weight of vicious ridicule that was thrown at these claims by slick lawyers during the heat of courtroom battle even had me reeling and wondering about them and it had church researchers scouring the country for any war timewitnesses.
The trial did not go well, it seems it is much easier to tear a man’s reputation down than it is to build it up.
Then one day, a little too late in the trial to help with the outcome, an old gentleman arrived. Despite his 70 plus years he’d travelled many a mile and I got to spend some time with this gentlemen and questioned him at great length.
He wasn’t a Scientologist, not sure he’d ever heard of it. He hadn’t seen L Ron Hubbard for around forty years but heard that people were casting aspersions at his old friend so came a running.
]He was L Ron Hubbard’s Chief Officer from the “fictitious” sub chaser and relayed to me in detail how he had spent many hours, around 26 hours straight if memory serves me right, with Hubbard aboard that sub chaser fighting a number of Japanese subs threatening the west Coast of the USA, sinking at least one of them, and how the senior naval authorities poured cold water on and suppressed the reports of the incidents for their own reasons. He told me how he had stood beside Hubbard in the latrine and couldn’t help noticing that his commanding officer was pissing copious amounts of blood due to his injuries; told me that Hubbard was by far the greatest naval officer he’d ever served under, that he could turn a rabble into a well drilled crew and did, and that to this day he would walk through hell for the man.
Regardess of the truth of specific claims regarding Ron Hubbard, I was left with an abiding thought, what quality and stature of a man has friends who, forty years on, drop everything to come and help defend them?
Thoughtful // April 17, 2010 at 4:33 am
I read the unauthorized LRH biography which covered in detail the many mistakes LRH made in his life. When Dave found out, he had Andy Lenarchic busted off post. Anyway, Andy was a friend, and I was there when Andy finally solved an old mystery. He found out that LRH actually had two war records; the real one, and a duplicate that was apparently a cover for LRH’s naval intelligence work. Andy of course was Danny Sherman’s handler for years. So any time I had to coordinate something with Danny, I had a little time to visit with Andy. Andy and I also sometimes wound up on the same Saturday renos teams, doing carpentry.
Andy liked to talk about his research on the LRH Bio Project, after all that research was the whole focus of his life. Such conversations were “just between us” because I didn’t want to do anything to stop that flow. But one day I came in and Andy was just was astonished because that day he had finally found a second war record for LRH. For years Andy had been trying to make sense of what had happened since what LRH said he did, did not match his “war records.” The second record, which had been classified, did match.
However, none of that has anything to do with why Scientologists respect LRH. That is something some non-Scientologists can never understand.
Scientologists respect LRH because his developments and discoveries in Scientology work. We don’t care about anything else. LRH was not perfect, he was just a man. He always made that clear. The fact that an imperfect man, as imperfect as the rest of us, can create something as great as auditing and training, Wow! THAT in my book is the greatest accomplishment in history.