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Ls and the advantage of being exterior?

Reasonable

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I knew a lot of scn who wanted to do the Ls and paid dearly for it.

What are the advantages of being exterior? What did they think was it would do for them?

The L's was thing i always wanted from $cinetology.

My logic was that if I could be exterior with full perception that would mean that I did not need a body which meant to me that if my body died I would still have full consciousness and that was immortality.

When you think the product you are buying is immortality then you are willing to pay any price.
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
You REALLY can't think of some HUGE advantages to operating without being tethered to your body and having full perceptions while doing so? R E A L L Y ?

It is good to be flexible with what one identifies himself as being. That includes what one identifies with. You can either own a domain or you can be part of the contents thereof.

This location stuff (being located) is the most masterful trickery we've ever pulled off regarding consciousness. It's been the game of games to try to find our sequestered away consciousness....that is hiding...so as to keep us from finding....the mysterious places.....we source ourselves from.

Anyone who has ever been able to untangle that ball of yarn has always been the most sought after guru....in all ages
 

renegade

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The thing about scn is a lot of states cannot be proven like Clear, Exterior, OT powerz, etc.

I witnessed a person dying and it was really unreal how from the moment of death, i.e. going exterior, how his body really looked like dead flesh. I mean it really wasn't the same person from one moment to the next.

How is being exterior from doing the Ls any different from being a ghost?
 

Helena Handbasket

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The thing about scn is a lot of states cannot be proven like Clear, Exterior, OT powerz, etc.

I witnessed a person dying and it was really unreal how from the moment of death, i.e. going exterior, how his body really looked like dead flesh. I mean it really wasn't the same person from one moment to the next.

How is being exterior from doing the Ls any different from being a ghost?

When you exteriorize without dying you still control and "own" the body. Supposedly, you control it like a marionette.

Helena
 

renegade

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When you exteriorize without dying you still control and "own" the body. Supposedly, you control it like a marionette.

Helena

I have often wondered if this would prevent any new engrams and that is the reason why someone would want to do the Ls.

If this is true, and a person can regulate their body like a marionette, then I'd like to see someone who has done the Ls make a pencil dance in the air. It should be possible, right? Can they steal the body of a millionaire or celebrity?
 

Helena Handbasket

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I have often wondered if this would prevent any new engrams

No. Nothing to do with that.

If this is true, and a person can regulate their body like a marionette, then I'd like to see someone who has done the Ls make a pencil dance in the air. It should be possible, right?

Should be, but I've never seen it done. Usually, I get a response like "I don't do parlor tricks". (I've read a few things to the effect that this does happen occaisionally, but that the person can't reproduce the phenomenon at will.)

Can they steal the body of a millionaire or celebrity?

In theory, yes, but it's MUCH easier if that body is dying or is otherwise threatened. Once the previous owner deems it to be unsalvageable, they exit, then you can pick it up, and if you are capable enough, keep it alive.

When you finally wake up be prepared to be surrounded by a lot of "loved ones" that you have no idea who they are.

Helena
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader



In theory, yes, but it's MUCH easier if that body is dying or is otherwise threatened. Once the previous owner deems it to be unsalvageable, they exit, then you can pick it up, and if you are capable enough, keep it alive.

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Helena

Dont EVER make a half-hearted decision to leave and have one foot in and one foot out. You may find yourself being pushed ALL THE WAY out! That can be very uncomfortable when some new super glue lock hold grip slams on to your motor controls. Be very vigilant. Others are watching you. :nervous:
 

Ogsonofgroo

Crusader
It has been known for many years that it isn't hard to get outside the world, but, there aren't any words in there, and you cannot use words to get there, it is you from inside>out (meditate eh).
Scientology's matrix of words only creates delusion, it cannot deliver what it claims because of this over-sight. Hubbard, in my honest opinion, could not come to terms with the inner world of humans because he was divided by his own thinking mind, the repeated words only suffices to drive one's mind further from the center of our 'id', he perverted hisself beyond any spiritual awareness, thus creating an illusional state, which each victim must deal with within the construct of Ron. Scary and so sad :(

Iya.
 
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