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Lucas ( Luke ) Catton Is Out and is Speaking Out

Discussion in 'Leaving Scientology' started by AnonyMary, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    To those that asked, there is only one remaining Narconon facility remaining in Southern California. Luke confirmed that when Narconon -Newport Beach was closed in 2010, it's operations folded into the Warner Springs facility.

    According to their misleading page, Narconon has a center in Pasadena (which is, in fact, a small private home) and one in Sylmar, which is actually the private home of Sigal Adini (the bitch that sent the memo to fellow Scilons to voice complaints to NBC over the Rock Center airing) and her "husband" Tony Bylsma.
  2. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Not sure where Luke got his info at but over at Reaching For the Tipping Point Forum we've collected info on all the licensed facilities in the USA and there are THREE in So Cal. Here are the notes from an ongoing thread there

    Note: [..] Here are the licensed programs in Southern California

    Program Name: NARCONON JLB RANCH ( RES-DETOX Res. Capacity 6 )
    Legal Name: Narconon Fresh Start
    dba: JLB Ranch
    dba: Narconon JLB Ranch
    5955 HIGHWAY 79
    Warner Springs, CA 92086 San Diego County
    LOS ANGELES CA 90038

    Program Name: Huntington Harbor House ( RES-DETOX Res Capacity: 6 )
    Legal Name: Narconon Southern California ( Per CA ADP 4/5/2012 )
    17123 Roundhill Dt
    HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA 92649 Orange County, CA
    LOS ANGELES CA 90038

    Program Name: SUNSHINE SUMMIT LODGE ( RES-DETOX Res. Capacity 30 )
    dba: Sunshine Summit Lodge
    dba: Narconon San Diego
    Warner Springs, CA 92086 SAN DIEGO COUNTY, CA
    LOS ANGELES CA 90038

    ps: It's been long known that Narconon Newport Beach was to shut down in Feb 2010 after being unable to get a USE permit by the city due to many complaints about the facility and for not providing accurate information on applications about the building they were in, which had actually been converted to 3 unit residential condos years back by the owners and the city.
  3. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    As I've stated before, the NARCONON JLB RANCH is defunct. It has been for some time. The only San Diego area that is in operation is at Summit Ranch.

    The Huntington Beach house is a 4-bedroom home in a residential neighborhood. I'm curious why they set it up that way; obviously, they're not going to greatly profit from using this home.
  4. CoolHand

    CoolHand Patron with Honors

    I apologize. The Huntington Beach one is news to me. You can apparently see the "Fresh Start" locations at drugrehab[dot]com.
  5. CoolHand

    CoolHand Patron with Honors

    Oh, and by the way, for the nice people like Kathy True and others from OSA, I am already informing all my neighbors to keep an eye out. This includes the police officer across the street and the sheriff's deputy who lives up the hill on the way in, and my dog isn't exactly the quietest or friendliest.

    Just a little precautionary measure, that's all.
  6. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Thank you for speaking out Luke

    I would like to think that OSA, the cults office of special affairs, dealing with PR would not find their way to your neighbourhood, however if they did I am sure they would enjoy the company of some local TV station's mobile units who are kept on speed dial. Nothing like getting the cult well known for it's harassment actions.
  7. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    You an Luke need to get up to speed, lol

    JLB Ranch is, as I noted on Facebook a few mins ago in reply to this same comment of yours there, is running licensed detox facility, since 2010.

    The best way to know what's in CA is to look at the CA ADP monthly list of licensed facilities in CA, which provides facility legal and dba names., locations, license #s what they are licensed for and how many they are licensed to care for at any one time. This PDF gets updated monthly, so bookmark the link. Use pdf 'find' using facility names or keyword Narconon - note that some in No Cal do not show the go by the Narconon in their program name.
  8. OperatingSP

    OperatingSP Patron with Honors

    Former Narconon Arrowhead President Speaks About Deaths

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  9. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

  10. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

  11. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

  12. i'mglib

    i'mglib Patron with Honors

    This is weird. I used to live on Roundhill Drive when I was a kid! It's a totally suburban neighborhood in Huntington Harbour, which is sort of a less classy, less exclusive Newport Beach. Some of the homes are on this man made channel that leads to the ocean, and they have docks and boats. Roundhill Drive doesn't. I wonder how the neighbors like having Scientology/Narconon in their midst.
  13. sallydannce

    sallydannce Gold Meritorious Patron

    Lol. Never thought of it like that before but you make a valid point - it is very much like colon cleansing leaving scientology and sifting through all the crap.

    Welcome to ESMB CoolHand.

    Reading your blog brought back memories of the heavy thug/reg tactics I lived through.

    All the very best and a huge thanks for speaking out. :)
  14. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    I've been informed the home is owned by Marian Geraldine Upton, age 71. She also has a home in Clearwater. FL. where her son Mark resides.

    Her other son, Jason, manages the home. Jason used to be on staff at Narconon - Newport Beach before it was closed in 2010.
  15. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I saw and read the original here:

    Good job speaking up, Lucas! Gary Smith must be pissed off but good.
    Looking forward to part II

    Quick question ( asked on Tipping Point as well:

    Why don't you think it should be shut down, Lucas? It doesn't even meet OK state criteria on it's own. It wouldn't be open if it weren't for CARF certification.... which is being investigated as well.

    BTW, Luke, word is spreading fast in Scientology. Someone sent a letter to scientologists about it, along with info on forced abortions, the Hole etc. Someone posted a reply from a scientologist which kind of explains why, for some, it's so hard to leave scientology
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2012
  16. CoolHand

    CoolHand Patron with Honors

    Thanks, Mary, and good question. Here is why - if they are fully investigated, held accountable for wrongdoing found by the DA's office and Dept. of Mental Health, pay out the lawsuit damages (tens of millions should come from the IAS to these families, in my opinion, not that it would make up for the loss of their children) and forced into compliance with all of the state regulations, THEN they shouldn't be shut down. It's either that or they call themselves a faith-based program, clearly put it everywhere that they are part of Scientology and not accept insurance, etc. Things have to be change - accountability and transparency.
  17. CoolHand

    CoolHand Patron with Honors

    Thanks Sallydannce!
  18. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    Hi CoolHand Luke :wave: and :welcome2: Thank you for coming forward and speaking out. :clap:

    MOAR ! :drama: :biggrin:
  19. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Thanks, Luke. I appreciate the thorough answer. It's going to be an interesting Autumn.... Tony's latest article interview with Sen. Tom Ivester shows he seems to be getting right on top of it :)
  20. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    If all this was to occur, I doubt Narconon would be able to survive.

    I suspect, in the coming months, that the COS will implement damage control and Gary Smith & other execs at Narconon-Arrowhead will be offered up as sacrificial lambs & COS attorneys will distance the church from all liability at the facility to KSW.