Major Release - 2nd MV Event

[Out-Ethics]

The big release was the HQS course. They are taking it back to the 1970s which includes TRs, Obj, SA and some fundamentals of Hubbardism. Sups were sent to Flag to do this course in it's entirety. If they hadn't had their Obj or were found to quicky them then they had to twin up to do them. Orgs if they do not have Sups in their Div 6s will deliver this in div 4 until they recruit such sups and trained them to deliver HQS. Again this is Taco Bell being repackaged.

 

[OTBT]

The big release was the HQS course. They are taking it back to the 1970s which includes TRs, Obj, SA and some fundamentals of Hubbardism. Sups were sent to Flag to do this course in it's entirety. If they hadn't had their Obj or were found to quicky them then they had to twin up to do them. Orgs if they do not have Sups in their Div 6s will deliver this in div 4 until they recruit such sups and trained them to deliver HQS. Again this is Taco Bell being repackaged.

Jeez, how many times are they going to repackage the HQS course? It got really dumbed down and stripped down in the 80's and 90's.

Now that they beefed up the HQS again, all they need now is actual raw meat to be on course < snicker > Good luck with that.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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Public Speaking for OTs--And YES! Which is to say, booming your TR-1 so confidently that even YOU forget you are lying!

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[Enthetan]

I believe one of the reasons CCHs were removed from the really old version of HQS was too many raw meat manifesting Out Int. Also Purif is supposed to be done before Objectives (CCHs).

I think the Purif requirement was one of the bigger things that killed the flow of new people into Scn. When I first got in, in the 70's, we had the old Comm Course. People had some wins on TRs and signed up for HQS, and did that on their weekends. Meanwhile, with the HQS space right next to the Academy, there were lots of Academy students grabbing HQS people on their breaks to help with meter drills, and get them interested in what was next.

And there was NOTHING else on the intro lineup. The lineup was CommCrs/HQS/Levels. Period. No Basics courses, no VMH courses, you did the lineup.

As far as new Scns exhibiting Out Int, they COULD have done something with Class IV students doing student auditing, but noooo.

 

[Zinjifar]

I think the Purif requirement was one of the bigger things that killed the flow of new people into Scn. When I first got in, in the 70's, we had the old Comm Course. People had some wins on TRs and signed up for HQS, and did that on their weekends. Meanwhile, with the HQS space right next to the Academy, there were lots of Academy students grabbing HQS people on their breaks to help with meter drills, and get them interested in what was next.

And there was NOTHING else on the intro lineup. The lineup was CommCrs/HQS/Levels. Period. No Basics courses, no VMH courses, you did the lineup.

As far as new Scns exhibiting Out Int, they COULD have done something with Class IV students doing student auditing, but noooo.

That raises a question for me though; the Purif is now one of the first courses people are forced onto. What would happen if a Raw Meat just refused it and said 'I don't buy in to that 'purification' hokum.' ?

Zinj

 

[Enthetan]

That raises a question for me though; the Purif is now one of the first courses people are forced onto. What would happen if a Raw Meat just refused it and said 'I don't buy in to that 'purification' hokum.' ?

Zinj

Probably be sent to Ethics to get sorted out, and then asked to leave if he persisted. They don't want troublemakers, and somebody who doesn't "go with the flow" is likely to be a troublemaker.

 

[Zinjifar]

Probably be sent to Ethics to get sorted out, and then asked to leave if he persisted. They don't want troublemakers, and somebody who doesn't "go with the flow" is likely to be a troublemaker.

So much for 'true for you'

Zinj

 

[myrklix]

I did HQS right after HAS co-audit probably in '78-79 -- the full monty -- CCH's and all with no purif. pre-req. Major, major wins on objectives despite some drug history. Go figure what you want from that. Yeah, that course got me hooked.

 

[Enthetan]

I did HQS right after HAS co-audit probably in '78-79 -- the full monty -- CCH's and all with no purif. pre-req. Major, major wins on objectives despite some drug history. Go figure what you want from that. Yeah, that course got me hooked.

The low-level stuff DOES have an effect. If it didn't, new public who had not yet been conditioned would just walk away.

 

[renegade]

That raises a question for me though; the Purif is now one of the first courses people are forced onto. What would happen if a Raw Meat just refused it and said 'I don't buy in to that 'purification' hokum.' ?

Zinj

What we would do is continue to enlighten them no matter how long this would take. Use tag team regging and public to promote their wins (overwhelm them with so much data, really) until they'd give in. The tech guys would also be in coordination with the regges saying that public had to do the purif before auditing services. Normally though, new public would get blown out from doing trs and gladly pay up.

 

[Chess]

Typo edited.

I thought there were a stack last time too.

My title suggestions;

"How to Ignore the Internet."
"Creating Your Own Reality in a Cult, Made Easy"
"Who are the Real Villains?"
"How to Live without Your Family"
"Disconnection Made Easy"
"Couch Jumping for Beginners"
"Acceptable Truths, What are they?"
"The Power of Self Deception"

Very good Kev... had a good chuckle with those. Couldn't help think of a couple,
The End of endless credit card application course.
The Solo NOTS small arms course,
and my favorite,
Jail for beginners course with a 3 to five year interneship - hurry, limited time only.

 

[OHTEEATE]

HQS

The low-level stuff DOES have an effect. If it didn't, new public who had not yet been conditioned would just walk away.

HQS made you an auditor, got in the basics of the Tone Scale, completed you on objectives non-quicky, included 25 hrs. of Op Pro by Dup to exteriorization, all the Self Analysis you wanted. $400 in 1972. Took me 8 months , 5 nights a week to complete. My course sup was a Class 8 auditor, Virginia Kapuler.

The only thing I have heard that indicates as correct since I left in 2005 is putting this course back into the lineup.

 

[Panda Termint]

Yes, I'd have to agree. The real question is, "How have they messed it up?"

If past performance is anything to go by, you'd have to know that they will have done something to make it less workable than the original course.

 

[SuperPowers]

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[Dulloldfart]

Yes, I'd have to agree. The real question is, "How have they messed it up?"

If past performance is anything to go by, you'd have to know that they will have done something to make it less workable than the original course.

Well, they can force EVERYONE to do it, even OT VIIIs, complete with auditing every question of every single list of Self Analysis.

They can make it interminable, maybe requiring RTC video passes on TRs and auditing skills.

But even if the course is an exact duplicate of the 1970s one, allowing for a few minor changes in the materials here and there, there is one thing that is very different: this is 2010 and not 1972. The students will get hounded so much by the reges (and the course sups too, no doubt) to give cash over the whole time it takes to do the course that they will get blown off it.

Paul