Mark Ultra VIII Website with weird app to download

[suspiciousperson]

IF the validation is done sensibly then the approach you should take is to hack the device's firmware, not the application software. All you would have to do is hardcode into the firmware the public key of some certificate scientology holds, and the ability to once a year generate a random number and insist it is signed with thirty days. With a bit of sense you would not make it an entirely random number either, you would tie it to the individual e-meter in some manner. Then have the computer software's job to upload the random number scientology and forward the response to the e-meter. Again, IF DONE CORRECTLY, there is no practical attack for this at the level of the desktop software. However, changing the e-meter firmware to disable the validation process entirely would probably be quite easy. One quick and easy way to check how easy it will be is make it completely run out of power so that it forgets the date and see if it runs...

Incidentally aren't these more than ten years old or something? Would be interesting if it's a 56 bit key or similar... (assuming that there is any such system at all).

 

[suspiciousperson]

Can someone take one apart and post a very high resolution image of the circuit board, such that it's possible to identify all the ICs, please?

 

[AnonKat]

Can someone take one apart and post a very high resolution image of the circuit board, such that it's possible to identify all the ICs, please?

I can onley post this old shit

[video=youtube;YHDMEBoOYXo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHDMEBoOYXo[/video]

[video=youtube;qkXlhSVc8Kw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkXlhSVc8Kw[/video]

 

[Terril park]

Can someone take one apart and post a very high resolution image of the circuit board, such that it's possible to identify all the ICs, please?

I'm sure they would be happy too if you put up the 5 or possibly 10 Gs.

 

[AnonKat]

I'm sure they would be happy too if you put up the 5 or possibly 10 Gs.

Hey Terril my good friend remember we posting this on the websites:

 

[suspiciousperson]

I'm sure they would be happy too if you put up the 5 or possibly 10 Gs.

Does CO$ take monopoly money?

 

[suspiciousperson]

I can onley post this old shit

[video=youtube;YHDMEBoOYXo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHDMEBoOYXo[/video]

[video=youtube;qkXlhSVc8Kw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkXlhSVc8Kw[/video]

All I wanna do is identify where it can be storing state. Would need to be this version. I am (for the purporses of this) a computer scientist not an electronics engineer so the stuff in those vids is no use to me really

 

[AnonKat]

All I wanna do is identify where it can be storing state. Would need to be this version. I am (for the purporses of this) a computer scientist not an electronics engineer so the stuff in those vids is no use to me really

Not much has changed

 

[Terril park]

Does CO$ take monopoly money?

Best I know they'll take any money.

 

[suspiciousperson]

Not much has changed

My interest is only in the "locking out" stuff, assuming it exists at all*. Not in the actual e-metery things.

*Would also be very interested if it installs spyware or similar like scienowatcher....

 

[AnonKat]

My interest is only in the "locking out" stuff, assuming it exists at all*. Not in the actual e-metery things.

*Would also be very interested if it installs spyware or similar like scienowatcher....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheatstone_bridge

A Wheatstone bridge is an electrical circuit used to measure an unknown electrical resistance by balancing two legs of a bridge circuit, one leg of which includes the unknown component. Its operation is similar to the original potentiometer. It was invented by Samuel Hunter Christie in 1833 and improved and popularized by Sir Charles Wheatstone in 1843. One of the Wheatstone bridge's initial uses was for the purpose of soils analysis and comparison.[1]

[video=youtube;8Z5DI0ZQuNg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z5DI0ZQuNg[/video]

 

[Freeminds]

Can someone take one apart and post a very high resolution image of the circuit board, such that it's possible to identify all the ICs, please?

If I know the Scientology role-playing game, your question just caused a room full of Sea Ogres to work overtime, painting over the top surface of every chip. Speculation: on a device as primitive as the Electropsychometer, most of what the layman thinks of as 'integrated circuits' are probably just 45c quad op amps and the like. There's not going to be much in the way of custom silicon required in a device for Scientology victims: they subscribe to a typewriter- and telex-driven cult, in this digital age.

 

[sallydannce]

Patent drawings for this e-meter can be found here:

1. http://www.iponz.govt.nz/cms (NZ Intellectual Property Office)
2. Patents tab
3. Search now
4. search term "543055" (patent number)
5. Click on "case number" (543055)
6. Scroll down to "patent specifications" and open "complete specifications"

This is the 33 page pdf file with drawings, etc.

 

[AnonyMary]

From FAQ's:



Wow, they're trying to make it so people who leave the CoS in the future no longer have the right to own a meter.

They just don't want the squirrels getting a hold of it, lol!

 

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

From FAQ's:



Wow, they're trying to make it so people who leave the CoS in the future no longer have the right to own a meter.

Well, you have to figure that seeing them on eBay for $100 bucks has to be pretty fucking embarrassing. I'm sure they are trying to do everything possible to make people think they can't sell them once the novelty of Scientology wears off. It's just another fail in a long line of fails, they'll be on eBay for $100 soon enough.

 

[aegerprimo]

Well, you have to figure that seeing them on eBay for $100 bucks has to be pretty fucking embarrassing. I'm sure they are trying to do everything possible to make people think they can't sell them once the novelty of Scientology wears off. It's just another fail in a long line of fails, they'll be on eBay for $100 soon enough.

Okay, out of curiosity I did a search on eBay for "e-meter" and got 1,399 results! Here is the link - http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...1.A0.Xe-meter&_nkw=e-meter&_sacat=0&_from=R40

On Amazon, none but some vintage e-meter drill books - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...-meter,aps,285&rh=i:aps,k:e-meter+scientology

 

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

Okay, out of curiosity I did a search on eBay for "e-meter" and got 1,399 results! Here is the link - http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...1.A0.Xe-meter&_nkw=e-meter&_sacat=0&_from=R40

On Amazon, none but some vintage e-meter drill books - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...-meter,aps,285&rh=i:aps,k:e-meter+scientology

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-VI-Hub...894?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c29a0e1e

I can't see these latest ones going for much more than that, people hold on to them for a little while and then get rid of them with the rest of the clutter during a cleaning.

 

[Terril park]

They just don't want the squirrels getting a hold of it, lol!

We don't want their antiquated rubbish meters. We have our own
state of the art ones, at a fraction of the price.

If you ask nicely you can probably get a written guarantee that no one
will try to repossess it.


http://www.psychemeter.com/

 

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

We don't want their antiquated rubbish meters. We have our own
state of the art ones, at a fraction of the price.

If you ask nicely you can probably get a written guarantee that no one
will try to repossess it.


http://www.psychemeter.com/

Exactly anyone who is looking for an emeter that knows any better is not going to bother with one fo the cult's, unless they can pick it up for almost nothing.

 

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

I'm sure they would be happy too if you put up the 5 or possibly 10 Gs.

Best I know they'll take any money.

They just don't want the squirrels getting a hold of it, lol!

Ahhh come on AnonyMary, they would probably take the money from a squirrel, issue a fake IAS lifetime membership card and then call the police and have the squirrel charged with Fraudulent IAS card possession while also demanding their $K back for the non-existence payment for the IAS card. ya know ...trick, defraud, sue, harass type SP fair game policy and all that.