Marty: More Squirrel Busting (With Video!)

[Auditor's Toad]

All Scientologists should certainly be worried . It's darned obvious that Tech is out at the CofS. LRH instructed that "PR is overt, intelligence is covert." That means that PR should be visible and the nasty stuff should be done, either behind-the-scenes, or through a buffer or disguise.

This isn't nasty stuff, so far Marty hasn't been covert opped in any serious way. He hasn't even been sued. Compared to what went before, this is, as both Miscavige's and Rathbun's spiritual leader, L. Ron, would say, "Nicey, nicey."

Why is Rathbun only receiving the nicey-nice version of nasty? And in a public way? And why is he being spared the seriously nasty covert stuff and lawsuits?

Or is there a quiet understanding amongst the feuding parties?

At this stage it seems impossible that Miscavige could have approved of a plan, with which to manipulate public opinion (against the already unpopular "Church" and the already unpopular "philosophy" of Scientology), by staging a (powder puff) war between bad (unlikable) Scientologist Miscavige and good (likable) Scientologist Rathbun.

It's great tactics, and it has had some success in shifting public opinion ever so slightly (by having a "likable" Scientologist defending the Scientology "religion's" reputation and L. Ron Hubbard's "good name"), but it's terrible for Miscavige's image, if not his bank accounts (which remain secure).

So, the only possibility is that both Miscavige and Rathbun are - in effect - being blackmailed or, in some other way, directed, and there's some other person or group that is overseeing this very visible powder-puff "war" between Miscavige&the CofS and Marty Rathbun&the Independent Scientologists.

However, I just don't see that as occurring.

So, back to the quiet understanding between the two antagonists?

Or maybe Tech really is out in the CofS, and Miscavige has decided to alter LRH tech by reforming Scientology and replacing Hubbard's Fair Game "philosophy" and Tech with powder-puff Keystone Cops Tech.

OR, maybe Miscavige is waiting for his moment to turn really sneaky and nasty, just as would have been done in the "good old days" when Hubbard was at the helm.

OR, perhaps Miscavige is waiting for Rathbun to finally explode in anger and come running out of his house with a gun and shoot people?

Who knows?

Who knows indeed. However, it sure has that funky smell that comes out of the south end of a north facing bull.

DM may be many things but being anything but a poorly educated not very bright immature person with no real life skill sets seems a challenge he can not successfully meet.

He -supposedly - is a rather hopeless alcoholic... and where IS his dear wife these days?

 

[masonj]

Re: Squirrel Busters

Squirrel Busters??

Squirrel Busters??....

...........................

Is this the Sci-Fi channel?

Some TV network is going to take this Squirrel Busting campaign to interested cable television people and they are going to have a top rated show. This is right up there with COPS, Pitbulls & Parolees, Bounty Hunter and Survivorman.

Really. If I didn't have doubts about Scientology, Squirrel Busters would have done it.

Scientology has empty orgs across the planet. Imagine what the true stats are like!

The Solution: Spend a ton of money harassing disguntled, ex-communicated high level people.

!

It's so wacky. Under the guise of protecting "standard tech".

I think they have picked them up!

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gPs6us_gy-M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://youtu.be/gPs6us_gy-Mhttp://youtu.be/gPs6us_gy-M

 

[SpecialFrog]

Re: Squirrel Busters

I think they have picked them up!

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gPs6us_gy-M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://youtu.be/gPs6us_gy-Mhttp://youtu.be/gPs6us_gy-M

That should further ingratiate them with the community.

 

[degraded being]

All Scientologists should certainly be worried . It's darned obvious that Tech is out at the CofS. LRH instructed that "PR is overt, intelligence is covert." That means that PR should be visible and the nasty stuff should be done, either behind-the-scenes, or through a buffer or disguise.

This isn't nasty stuff, so far Marty hasn't been covert opped in any serious way. He hasn't even been sued. Compared to what went before, this is, as both Miscavige's and Rathbun's spiritual leader, L. Ron, would say, "Nicey, nicey."

Why is Rathbun only receiving the nicey-nice version of nasty? And in a public way? And why is he being spared the seriously nasty covert stuff and lawsuits?

Or is there a quiet understanding amongst the feuding parties?

At this stage it seems impossible that Miscavige could have approved of a plan, with which to manipulate public opinion (against the already unpopular "Church" and the already unpopular "philosophy" of Scientology), by staging a (powder puff) war between bad (unlikable) Scientologist Miscavige and good (likable) Scientologist Rathbun.

It's great tactics, and it has had some success in shifting public opinion ever so slightly (by having a "likable" Scientologist defending the Scientology "religion's" reputation and L. Ron Hubbard's "good name"), but it's terrible for Miscavige's image, if not his bank accounts (which remain secure).

So, the only possibility is that both Miscavige and Rathbun are - in effect - being blackmailed or, in some other way, directed, and there's some other person or group that is overseeing this very visible powder-puff "war" between Miscavige&the CofS and Marty Rathbun&the Independent Scientologists.

However, I just don't see that as occurring.

So, back to the quiet understanding between the two antagonists?

Or maybe Tech really is out in the CofS, and Miscavige has decided to alter LRH tech by reforming Scientology and replacing Hubbard's Fair Game "philosophy" and Tech with powder-puff Keystone Cops Tech.

OR, maybe Miscavige is waiting for his moment to turn really sneaky and nasty, just as would have been done in the "good old days" when Hubbard was at the helm.

OR, perhaps Miscavige is waiting for Rathbun to finally explode in anger and come running out of his house with a gun and shoot people?

Who knows?

Yes, who knows...but your post has helped my mind get a bit more organised on how to read the situation. So just to clarify my own thoughts......

1. The cartoon mode of delivering the message.
2. The message itself.
3. The message sender(s).
4. The intended audiences(s).

The message has become "We will stamp out squirrels/squirrel tech". The woman that showed up to stage a liitle scene with Mosey was delivering the same (apparent) message "This is about suirrelling, or getting "non-standard tech".

This is a huge change from "We have total control and intention to remove SPs and those who are counter-intention on Scientology's survival and expansion".
It is (it seems) only about squirreling now. That's an almighty degrade.

Since Marty supports Scientology they cannot attack him as someone who wants Scientology to fail. Normally, that detail would not matter, they could just lie about that. But they must have noticed that they are in danger of being caught out because there are too many that know that Marty is not actually attacking Scientology. So they have to go for the Squirrelling angle. Still I shake my head in disbelief...where are the time honored religious practices of going for the jugular and ripping out the heart of the infidel???????

The "Anti-Squirrel" message started at a time when, (AFAIK) Marty was starting to look more threatening in what he would post. This was, I think, only motivated by pressure from people who had left and expected to see more exposure of more juice, and actually supplying stories to put up there, and Marty had to stay on top of it, to control it, in order keep his self appointed "leader" position. Perhaps, DM was getting a bit worried about the brinksmanship going too far so went for the soft "anti squirrel" line, to distract from the heavier shit that may be exposed.

Of course, that suits Marty very nicely too. The brinksmanship on how far he would go on exposing the important stuff must have been making him a bit uncomfortable,
since he would have to start exposing his own past.
So the Looney Tunes Squirrel Busters gambit suits them both.

The way the message is delivered must be important.
Is it that they can be complete arseholes but by looking like Looney Tunes comedies, it will make it look less objectionable to legal authorities - like a "prank"?

Veda said:
"...It's great tactics, and it has had some success in shifting public opinion ever so slightly (by having a "likable" Scientologist defending the Scientology "religion's" reputation and L. Ron Hubbard's "good name"), but it's terrible for Miscavige's image, if not his bank accounts (which remain secure).

So, the only possibility is that both Miscavige and Rathbun are - in effect - being blackmailed or, in some other way, directed, and there's some other person or group that is overseeing this very visible powder-puff "war" between Miscavige&the CofS and Marty Rathbun&the Independent Scientologists..."

It does look like there is a need to look "likeable"....it must be important to have such a big shift from (the usual) looking nasty and never apologising for it. I also wondered if this is being directed by some other person. The "script" has a sense that it was written from someone other than DM or MR.

Back to, who knows?

 

[Zhongjianren]

So, the only possibility is that both Miscavige and Rathbun are - in effect - being blackmailed or, in some other way, directed, and there's some other person or group that is overseeing this very visible powder-puff "war" between Miscavige&the CofS and Marty Rathbun&the Independent Scientologists..."

No, that is not the only possibility. It is not even the most likely possibility.

The most likely possibility is that Marty and DM have, at the strategic level, mutual assured destruction on each other. They have strategic deterrence. They know enough about each other to put each other in jail, expose each other to lawsuits, etc. They are in a state of strategic mutual deterrence.

That does not, however, prevent relatively petty harassment by DM of Marty. DM knows that what he is doing now will not provoke a nuclear response by Marty, because then DM would respond in kind -- and Marty knows it -- and DM knows that Marty knows it.

Think of the U.S. and the Soviet Union. Mutual assured destruction prevented nuclear war. Mutual assured destruction did not prevent low level wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. Like Marty and DM, albeit in vastly different contexts, the U.S. and the Soviet Union were very careful not to over escalate.

There is no need to rely on conspiracy theories or "third party tech."s The situation between Marty and DM is readily understandable.

 

[degraded being]

No, that is not the only possibility. It is not even the most likely possibility.

The most likely possibility is that Marty and DM have, at the strategic level, mutual assured destruction on each other. They have strategic deterrence. They know enough about each other to put each other in jail, expose each other to lawsuits, etc. They are in a state of strategic mutual deterrence.

That does not, however, prevent relatively petty harassment by DM of Marty. DM knows that what he is doing now will not provoke a nuclear response by Marty, because then DM would respond in kind -- and Marty knows it -- and DM knows that Marty knows it.

Think of the U.S. and the Soviet Union. Mutual assured destruction prevented nuclear war. Mutual assured destruction did not prevent low level wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. Like Marty and DM, albeit in vastly different contexts, the U.S. and the Soviet Union were very careful not to over escalate.

There is no need to rely on conspiracy theories or "third party tech."s The situation between Marty and DM is readily understandable.

Just to clarify, I did not use the phrase "....the only possibility..".
That was in a quote from Veda.

 

[freethinker]

You make some interesting points. I have always thought that the skeletons in their closets prevent the launch of all out attack. Perhaps Marty meeting with the FBI was pre-emptive to what could ensue or just a show to make it seem that way but...

These Squirel buster promotions are made for one public only and that is for Scio's who are lurking online because they are already in doubt.

DM thinks that if he paints Marty this way, they will decide to stay with the CO$ because they have the facilities and the standards that Marty doesn't.

However, it may hold them (the doubters) in check for a while but they are aware that they are not getting standard tech at the CO$ already. This is the flaw in DM's campaign, they know it's not standard under him.

I'm sure DM is also gathering intelligence as well as making silly documentaries.

The other purpose of these docos is to give legitimacy to there being in Marty's town watching Marty.

These cartoons are for the lurkers because like it or not, people do go to Marty when they decide to take the leap.

No, that is not the only possibility. It is not even the most likely possibility.

The most likely possibility is that Marty and DM have, at the strategic level, mutual assured destruction on each other. They have strategic deterrence. They know enough about each other to put each other in jail, expose each other to lawsuits, etc. They are in a state of strategic mutual deterrence.

That does not, however, prevent relatively petty harassment by DM of Marty. DM knows that what he is doing now will not provoke a nuclear response by Marty, because then DM would respond in kind -- and Marty knows it -- and DM knows that Marty knows it.

Think of the U.S. and the Soviet Union. Mutual assured destruction prevented nuclear war. Mutual assured destruction did not prevent low level wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. Like Marty and DM, albeit in vastly different contexts, the U.S. and the Soviet Union were very careful not to over escalate.

There is no need to rely on conspiracy theories or "third party tech."s The situation between Marty and DM is readily understandable.

 

[SpecialFrog]

The most likely possibility is that Marty and DM have, at the strategic level, mutual assured destruction on each other. They have strategic deterrence. They know enough about each other to put each other in jail, expose each other to lawsuits, etc. They are in a state of strategic mutual deterrence.

I don't really find it credible that there is a magic bullet that would land Miscavige in jail. I doubt he's got a video of Miscavige ordering a hit on someone stashed in a safe deposit box somewhere.

It's possible that Marty has information that would jeopardize the IRS settlement, though in that case it would seem more likely that Marty is holding back because he doesn't want Scientology's religious status to be lost.

 

[Free to shine]

I'm not sure if this has been posted...this Squirrel Busters video about Mark Bunker...well....

http://www.xenutv.com/blog/?p=5333