Marty: Open Letter to Residents of Ingleside on the Bay Texas

[lotus]

Inever pretend I was smart and wise
But I have something insde me wich detect BS

Concerning Marty
I have an impression wich might be wrong - but it's my beleif till I get proper explanation

I pretend that
Marty is no victim and NO way Fair gamed
Marty would be playing a game with Miscavige

ANd the reason Marty's is having all these retarded OT\OSA after him
would be that Marty
never spoke
And marty's never spoke to ensure HIS OWN security as to keep Miscavige quiet
He only released small ''stuff'' not the meat

I don't beleive he is harassed because of him auditing pc's (it's a scam to distract from the real reasons)
He is harassed for not going low profile. Miscavige just want him to get lost and vanish 0- to keep away from medias. But he keeps in media to ensure his OWN security (he just release them small bits of already known stuff) . Marty cares about Marty and Marty have Rinder aside to feel stronger and have more credibility as well as to represent a bigger threat for Miscavige.

So it's like they are both scared
ANd Marty is not fair gamed - Marty is under pressure because he is knowledgeable of ''hot stuff'' he did not disclosed and keeps Miscavige under pressure too.

Miscavige want him go away
Marty want Miscavige go away
This is a POWER game over the business of $camology

Some had the courage to exposed EVERYTHING they knew - but not Marty.
He is keeping it aside..What for?????

I don't beleive they don't have any agreement to protect them each other about some specific major issues they have ben engaged together. I am talking about things that could dammage the CO$ with taxes issues - and some issus that could lead into criminal charges for both.

to me it's exactely like in Mafia moovies..the same scenario!

Does it make sens or not????
Do you also feel it's all BS as usual????
How come independants are praising him like a hero?????

So this letter to the resident
I pretend is to serve his need of protection as well as writing in his community medias

It might seems a little off topic but I thing it's all related
A strategy

Does it make sens or not ????

 

[degraded being]

Inever pretend I was smart and wise
But I have something insde me wich detect BS

Concerning Marty
I have an impression wich might be wrong - but it's my beleif till I get proper explanation

I pretend that
Marty is no victim and NO way Fair gamed
Marty would be playing a game with Miscavige

ANd the reason Marty's is having all these retarded OT\OSA after him
would be that Marty
never spoke
And marty's never spoke to ensure HIS OWN security as to keep Miscavige quiet
He only released small ''stuff'' not the meat

I don't beleive he is harassed because of him auditing pc's (it's a scam to distract from the real reasons)
He is harassed for not going low profile. Miscavige just want him to get lost and vanish 0- to keep away from medias. But he keeps in media to ensure his OWN security (he just release them small bits of already known stuff) . Marty cares about Marty and Marty have Rinder aside to feel stronger and have more credibility as well as to represent a bigger threat for Miscavige.

So it's like they are both scared
ANd Marty is not fair gamed - Marty is under pressure because he is knowledgeable of ''hot stuff'' he did not disclosed and keeps Miscavige under pressure too.

Miscavige want him go away
Marty want Miscavige go away
This is a POWER game over the business of $camology

Some had the courage to exposed EVERYTHING they knew - but not Marty.
He is keeping it aside..What for?????

I don't beleive they don't have any agreement to protect them each other about some specific major issues they have ben engaged together. I am talking about things that could dammage the CO$ with taxes issues - and some issus that could lead into criminal charges for both.

to me it's exactely like in Mafia moovies..the same scenario!

Does it make sens or not????
Do you also feel it's all BS as usual????
How come independants are praising him like a hero?????

So this letter to the resident
I pretend is to serve his need of protection as well as writing in his community medias

It might seems a little off topic but I thing it's all related
A strategy

Does it make sens or not ????

I think there's a lot of sense in what you say.

 

[Lurker5]

I like it when someone posts/links an interesting Marty blog here, with or without comment. Kha Khan (where is KK?) used to do it all the time, stating - reading Marty's blog so you don't have to . . . Wasn't that KKs byline?

Sometimes I just go over there to see what is going on, how the war is progressing with him and his. Often I find myself irritated and revolted by the gushy comments and scno speak, . It is an unholy alliance, in my mind, but he is an ally - making a stand against De-immoral Monster, in the face of some brutal, underhanded, immoral, unethical and uncivil, privacy invading, (not to mention probably illegal) tactics/attacks by the c-o-$hit.

For that I can hold my tongue, on HIS religion . . . for now.

BTW, where is Kha Khan? Anybody know?

 

[Smilla]

Point taken. I will stop posting here. Congratulations. Goodby.

Ragequit scores zero - come back! We need some non-contributing Marty propagandists to chastise!

 

[change]

Most of us on this Forum have been afraid to use our names because we have fear of what the Co$ would do to us. I admire and appreciate those that have put themselves out there and that makes it safer for those of us in hiding to come out.
I think it took Marty several years to come out of hiding and start expresses his opinion and doing what he wants to do.

I have not. But I will very soon.

 

[Mimsey Borogrove]

You know, I looked around for the official scale of fair gameness and damn -all I could find was this cheap imitation:

Janet Reno vs. Branch Davidians
Obama's fair gaming Osama
Hubbards fair game tactics
GO fair game tactics
OSA's pre-anonymous fair gaming tactics
Ali vs Liston
OSA's post - anonymous fair gaming tactics
patty cake
DM vs MR

You think they need some help? I mean, jeeze Louise - the best DM can do is paddle boats?? What is he going to do next? Fart in their general direction?

We should give DM some pointers - if it gets any lamer, we're all going to fall asleep.

Mimsey - Mr TKO

 

[lotus]

 

[Jachs]

Kha Khan (where is KK?)

BTW, where is Kha Khan? Anybody know?

I thought KK got sick?

 

[elwood]

VillageVoice runs Martys blog.

Allegation miscavige attempting to buy Marty off.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/06/scientologys_ma.php#more

I didn't get that from the article.

 

[Gadfly]

I suspect that the actual truth of who and what Marty is will only become evident with the passage of time.

Part of me has the view that he is entirely a standard Church of Scientology OSA Op - but a very DEEP UNDERCOVER COVERT OP (probably reporting ONLY to DM directly, and NOBODY else knows about it at all). I have explained why this could be before. Remember, the Church of Scientology is quite happy to manipulate perceptions of reality (contrive events and situations of real life to "manage the outcomes"), and Hubbard trained his goons well in HOW to do THAT. Hubbard was an incredibly conniving bastard who viewed the entire world as "his play thing", and he NEVER felt a need to restrict or limit his machinations on any level. He taught the GO and OSA along the same lines. Simply, they will do anything to anybody anywhere to forward their own goals.

But, another part of me has the view that Marty is just a sincere, albeit severely over-indoctrinated ex-Sea Org Scientology person (who seems to have actually LIKED much about the Sea Org), who drank far too much of the Scientology kool-aid over far too many years, and who actually believes most of the nonsense that he farts out of his mouth.

But yes, it is a BIG strange red waving flag (to me) that Marty gets dealt with on such a very limited level - as if Miscavige purposely puts on the kid gloves when it comes to Marty.

Also, as others have previously pointed out, Marty (and Rinder) MUST know a great deal about some of the Church of Scientology's most nefarious shananigans. He refuses to tell everyone where these dead bodies are all buried. I have the feeling (intuition) that he is NOT telling all he could about things that could be very damaging to the C of S. I could be wrong.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

I suspect that the actual truth of who and what Marty is will only become evident with the passage of time.

Part of me has the view that he is entirely a standard Church of Scientology OSA Op - but a very DEEP UNDERCOVER COVERT OP (probably reporting ONLY to DM directly, and NOBODY else knows about it at all). I have explained why this could be before. Remember, the Church of Scientology is quite happy to manipulate perceptions of reality (contrive events and situations of real life to "manage the outcomes"), and Hubbard trained his goons well in HOW to do THAT. Hubbard was an incredibly conniving bastard who viewed the entire world as "his play thing", and he NEVER felt a need to restrict or limit his machinations on any level. He taught the GO and OSA along the same lines.

But, another part of me has the view that Marty is just a sincere, albeit severely over-indoctrinated ex-Sea Org Scientology person (who seems to have actually LIKED much about the Sea Org), who drank far too much of the Scientology kool-aid over far too many years, and who actually believes most of the nonsense that he farts out of his mouth.

But yes, it is a BIG strange red waving flag (to me) that Marty gets dealt with on such a very limited level - as if Miscavige purposely puts on the kid gloves when it comes to Marty.

Also, as others have previously pointed out, Marty MUST know a great deal about some of the Church of Scientology's most nefarious shananigans. He refuses to tell everyone where these dead bodies are all buried. I have the feeling (intuition) that he is NOT telling all he could about things that could be very damaging to the C of S. I could be wrong.

Good post.

In the beginning, I used to think it was possible Marty may well be playing out an "op" with COB.

Then, I wasn't quite sure and wondered if that could have been the way it started before Marty went rogue and took off on his own.

But later still, I began to be fairly sure that he is simply nothing less or more than a Scientologist who thinks DM is a sociopathic asshole.

Currently, I think he is exactly what it looks like he is. An emerging leader of a new Scientology "movement". There are countless reasons that seems to be the case, not the least amongst them is that he is simply not a good enough actor to do/say the things he does about COB and CoS to lie convincingly.

He's writing a book, too.

And he's throwing down mightily on COB...something that I can't imagine happening in ANY scenario other than his heartfelt opposition to the dreadfully degraded & diminutive dictator.

That's one of the things I really enjoy about Scientology as a hobby:

* Half the time what they say/do is totally UNBELIEVABLE (think "lies")

* The other half of the time what they say/do is totally UNBELIEVABLE (think stupidly absurd--like the kind of thing a delusional or criminally insane person would do and feel really good about).​

Marty is very both smart and very dedicated. In Scientology, those two normally commendable character traits are incompatible and cancel each other out.

 

[crm1978]

There is a sort of Karmic satisfaction to seeing Marty getting fairgamed by OSA but every time some one leaves Cos it kills the cult a little more What he did to people while in the cult was evil and he must confront that within himself but at least he is out so he won't do it to any one else .Many Exscios did a lot of bad things to others and leaving is the first step in taking responsibility .I think facing up to that is a big part of what it takes to recover It also shows how much unethical even evil actions are a big part of what the Cos is now and always was

 

[AnonKat]

There is a sort of Karmic satisfaction to seeing Marty getting fairgamed by OSA but every time some one leaves Cos it kills the cult a little more What he did to people while in the cult was evil and he must confront that within himself but at least he is out so he won't do it to any one else .Many Exscios did a lot of bad things to others and leaving is the first step in taking responsibility .I think facing up to that is a big part of what it takes to recover It also shows how much unethical even evil actions are a big part of what the Cos is now and always was

welcome crm1978

 

[AnonKat]

I wonder where all that money to harass Marty is coming from.

donations

 

[Lurker5]

Welcome crm1978

 

[Mimsey Borogrove]

It could be a case of mutual out ruds - withholds and overts in particular.

Neither wants to go to jail, and they have a tacit agreement, perhaps unspoken, a line in the sand neither will go over. Much like the cold war, each has enough dirt on the other, each can nuke the other, but neither wants to make the first step, since the retallation would be toxic.

So, much like Kennedy and Khruschev, they rattle sabers, bang shoes on tables, and play at intimidation, testing the boundarys, but not playing for keeps, waiting for the other to seriously screw up, then unload with both barrels and move in for the kill.

Either that or they dipped into the old man's store of pinks and blues a few times too many...

The Mimster

(isn't that DM's favorite tactic, giving high bonuses or trinkets like expensive cameras and what-not, making the recipient a part of the scam, so he can't rat anyone out without hanging himself in the process?)

 

[Free to shine]

http://scallywagandvagabond.com/201...o-longer-legally-harass-whomever-they-please/

Arkansas Scientologists Can No Longer Legally Harass Whomever They Please

Mark Rathbun, vocal critic of the Scientology after he left his official post in the “Church,” noticed cultish figures filming his every move. The Mayor of Ingleside on the Bay promptly passed an ordinance requiring film crews to obtain a permit before they start stalking people.

Ingleside Index: According to documents obtained by the County Attorney’s office, “On April 18 four individuals donning blue shirts with the name ‘Squirrel Buster Productions,’ as well as a squirrel with Rathbun’s face superimposed on it under a strikeout symbol, and fitted with video cameras around their heads knocked on the door of Rathbun’s home, which was opened and promptly shut by him. Rathbun reopened the door, holding his own camera to capture the event.

One of the men then introduced himself as John Allender and demanded that Rathbun show his “Meter” and “PC Folder.” Rathbun asked the crew to leave the property, but the crew continued to film and taunt him. Frustrated, Rathbun yanked a microphone away from a crewmember who asked for it back, which Rathbun eventually returned.

“Squirrel Buster Productions?” These creeps are certainly creative with their covers.

They also stop at nothing: after the initial incident, the crew unsucessfully filed criminal charges against Rathbun, tried to rent his neighbor’s apartment, then settled for a house down the street, then took to filming him on board a pattleboat behind his house. Finally, the mayor stepped in, making it illegal for the Squirrel Busters to harass Rathbun.

Do not underestimate Scientologists, though: While Rathbun is grateful to the City of the Ingleside on the Bay for their concern and help, he feels the ordinance would probably not be effective.

“$500 is like chump change to these guys. And if they do violate the ordinance, they’ll get a different crew, a different identity.”

Say what you will of Scientology, one has to wonder what type of religion goes out of its way to spy on ex members and what this on a whole has to say about organized cult figures? But maybe that’s maybe half the allure of being a scientologist?

So much for being crafty…

 

[Smurf]

In response to the ordinance passed by the city of Ingleside on the Bay in response to Marty's being harassed..

http://www.aransaspassprogress.com/...cle_d0f50210-a28e-11e0-ae92-001cc4c002e0.html

PI Ralph Gomez has applied for a filming permit (to continue the harassment):

VIII. New Business: Discussion and Possible Action

Item D: Approve/Disapprove Film Application by Ralph Gomez, Squirrel Buster Productions, in accordance with Ordinance 2011-04

http://www.inglesideonthebay.org/agendas/citycouncil.pdf

 

[Free to shine]

In response to the ordinance passed by the city of Ingleside on the Bay in response to Marty's being harassed..

http://www.aransaspassprogress.com/...cle_d0f50210-a28e-11e0-ae92-001cc4c002e0.html

PI Ralph Gomez has applied for a filming permit (to continue the harassment):

VIII. New Business: Discussion and Possible Action

Item D: Approve/Disapprove Film Application by Ralph Gomez, Squirrel Buster Productions, in accordance with Ordinance 2011-04

http://www.inglesideonthebay.org/agendas/citycouncil.pdf

Unbelievable.

It's like watching a daily soap...

 

[Opter]

Unbelievable.

It's like watching a daily soap...

On the same level as "The bold and the beautiful"


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