Karen,Okay, I will have a go at it.
++++Some 100 people were locked in what Law enforcement called "The dungeon" which ex-SO call the SP hall. This was a lock down in a small confined space for 100 people who had to sleep under the desks, with no bed, not permitted to go home.
++++Further punishment was Oliver Twist slop or beans and rice, which they had to pay for from meager "stipends."
++++Mid summer when desert heat in the Hemet area can hit 120 degrees, the air-conditioning was switched off in SP Hall. (It mostly has the most senior loyalists who have been working the SO schedule for decades.)
+++++"Seances" were introduced which is mob ganging yelling at once person for their CRIMES. Punching, spitting, beating, screaming and other mob activity was encouraged, a true dramatization of "One flew over the cuckoo"s nest."
+++++If the overwhelmed SO member did confess a crime, it was mocked and laughed at while more crimes were demanded.
+++++Debbie Cook Baumgarten former Captain FSO for some 30 years had to stand in the center when water was poured over frequently, while she was made to wear a sign saying "I am a LESBO." She blew, but reports are she received a check for $250,000 to be muzzled and gagged so she never reports what really happened in SP Hole, on Facebook.
+++++Some 600 to 700 Sea Org members are under complete lock down in INT base with no ability to go through the guard gates. The
slaves imprisoned at GOLD Base have been battered into being
robots and serving him personally and safeguarding his extravagant
lifestyle. It is obvious some are held against will. Russ Bellin tried to escape about 18 months ago but his leg got tangled in the fence and security hauled him back in, he has never been heard of since. Staff are obsessively guarded, watched, interrogated, imprisoned and harassed, at Miscavige’s orders, to prevent them from ever leaving and speaking out about what they have witnessed.
+++++Anne Broeker (Annie Logan) who lived with LRH in his last years has lung cancer. It is unknown what treatment she is getting
+++++++Sleep deprivation is a form or torture and is common in the Sea Org, reported extensively in the books Blown for Good and Abuse at the Top and Counterfeit Dreams
+++++ Punishment by throwing staff into into feces pond, Musical Chairs INT Base style and other acts of sadism and beatings with the staff member unable to flee. Throwing people into the feces pond only stopped when SO members got violently ill, then it moved to another location.
I do acknowledge that certain LRH policies were flawed and should never have been enacted. As much as I value certain workable parts of the technology, the wins that can be had in no way justify any of the ATROCITIES, SADISM, ABUSE and VIOLENCE that is the hallmark of the CULT.
Was he? In your opinion what is his most "brilliant" discovery?
While you're at it, could you point out one Clear and one OT please. I mean a Clear & OT who fit the bill as to what was promised as per the grade chart & DMSMH.
Just one will do.
Why yes, that's easy!
LRH never personally beat up Jeff Hawkins, Mike Rinder or Marty Rathbun. Only DM did that.
And if you are going to keep posting Ad Hom's against Ron, you should read the rules here. Or I will be forced to report you to whomever runs this joint and I have total knowingness they will very pissed off and boot your ass.
The Fair Game Heard Round the World
OSA is also losing its nerve as it puts up and takes down Minerva hate pages.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culture ... ology.html
UK Daily mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -wife.html
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/lif ... 48309.html
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_ ... 459662.php
http://www.caller.com/news/2011/jul/09/ ... o-hire-in/
http://www.kfoxtv.com/entertainment/285 ... etail.html
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... omingo.php
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... acking-him
http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.ac ... 4979606512
http://celebritynewsandstyle.com/placid ... ology-112/
http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/ ... omingo-jr/
Placido Domingo's son criticises Scientologists after leaving church
The son of the opera star Placido Domingo claims he has been targeted by Scientologists after leaving the organisation.
By Nick Allen, Los Angeles
6:16AM BST 12 Jul 2011
Placido Domingo Jr, a singer and composer, accused the controversial group of treating him in a "scary and pathetic" way.
Mr Domingo said he had been asked to sever ties with his ex-wife, who had become a vocal critic of the organisation, and to only communicate with her and their three daughters through a lawyer.
Mr Domingo had been a member of the group for 20 years when it asked him to "disconnect" with his ex-wife Samantha, who lives in Kent. The church has consistently denied it practices "disconnection".
He claimed that, after he left, other members were then instructed to "unfriend" him on the social networking website Facebook.
The musician also claimed that information he had given to the group in private sessions had been published on the internet.
Mr Domingo told New York's Village Voice newspaper: "It's an outrage. It's penitent-privilege information. Imagine if they did that to Tom Cruise or John Travolta. My God."
Cruise and Travolta are among the high profile celebrity adherents of Scientology which was founded in the 1950s on the basis of writings by L Ron Hubbard.
Mr Domingo said his famous tenor father had never questioned his decision to join Scientology.
The musician said: "He respects people and reserved judgment in this aspect."
Other high profile critics of the group have included Paul Haggis, the Hollywood film director who quit in 2009.
Mr Haggis, whose 2005 film Crash won two Oscars, left after 35 years and criticised the organisation for a stance against gay marriage.
That's true. L Ron Hubbard never beat Hawkins, Rinder or Rathbun. He just ORDERED DM to do it: http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/worse-than-fair-game/#comment-72406
Jesse Prince | November 2, 2010 at 5:31 am | Reply
I’m glad you brought up this subject of how the crimminality and destructive behavior escalated to what it is today in Scientology. I will start by saying I am not an L Ron Hubbard hater. I am also not an L Ron Hubbard adorer either. I just want to bring up personal knowledge that I have concerning Miss Cabbag’s odd behavior of abusing staff. The behavior of attacking staff DID NOT start with Miss Cabbage or Marty R or anyone else. Here is how it started from my eye wittness account. The year was 1982. The majority of International management (Exec Strata and CMO INT) had been removed from post. Out of that group of people there were two of them that really irritated L Ron personally. The two people I am refering to here is John Attack and David Mayo. For those who were around in 1983, there was RTC Conditions Order #1, a Com Ev on about 12-18 people. The exact number that comes to mind was about 18, but on this I could be mistaken but it was an unsual amount of people on the bill of particulars. I was either a member or secretary of that comm ev that went on for months. During this time RTC as well as ASI and CMOI would send up weekly reports to L Ron on the state of affairs with Int Mgmt ..etc. A report was sent to him each week concerning the comm ev and L Ron would often order this or that investigation of the people being comm ev’d. John Attack was the Exec Strata person over Div 6 activities and L Ron pretty much hated John and I understand hate is a strong word but so were the circumstances. To make a long story short, I read an advice from L Ron to Miss Cabbage ordering him to spit in John’s face and tell him that was from L. Ron. Miss Cabbage complyed with his order and reported the result. I saw the advice that came back to the compliance report of spitting in John’s face and L Ron was very pleased to here the news and escalated the situation by suggesting someone should slap the hell out of John Attack. Sure enough, as John was held by others, John was beaten by Miss Cabbage. Similar degrading actions were taken with David Mayo and this soon spread to others deemed to be SP’s. Prior to this it was unheard of at least by me for any staff member to attack another staff member. In fact it was a serious ethics offence to attack a fellow staff member. I knew Miss Cabbage before he was asked by L Ron to attack staff. He NEVER put a hand on any staff member period and I knew him for years prior to his orders to attack staff members. His wife Shelly would also encourage other executives to abuse staff in this manner and if they didn’t they were accused of having their finger falter on the trigger of a gun. In other words, pull the trigger. God only knows what the hell she was talking about but there you have it. It is so important to have the truth known so that people are not confused.
martyrathbun09 | November 2, 2010 at 11:42 am | Reply
Jesse, Thanks. First, I am sure you are talking about John Aczel and not John Atack. LRH didn’t know John Atack from a ground hog. Part of the picture you are missing is what was being sent directly to LRH from DM out of the then-LA unit Special Project (later to become ASI). That is where the reports concerning “All Clear” were sent – not via the Int base. That is where the grand conspiracy reports were sent from. Including the fact that Aczel and Mayo were clearly on the payroll of FBI and APA.
Funny that no one recognises Hubbard's "genius" except Scientologists who kid themselves they can see something that no one else does.
Hubbard's legacy is he was a fraud and ruined a lot of people's lives.
Agree with you, Sir Ax.
But, reading your post I was reminded that "getting rid of the abuses" is treating the symptom, not the cause of the disease.
The beatings, imprisonment, legal abuse, deception under the cloak of religion, fair game, lying, defrauding, criminal conspiracies and terrorism perpetrated by Scientology ARE Scientology.
Smoke and heat are not the problem to be addressed if one is being consumed by a fire. Scientology is a wall of fire that eventually burns everything and everyone it can reach, including its own.
If I were the fire chief, I'd give orders to "Let it burn itself out."