Marty Rathbun - the prick.

[skollie]

Which thread is it on?

Marty seems to be having an interesting new openness for his blog.
Its as though he tested the waters initially by not allowing any criticism of LRH, IMO a wise move, but is now being more open. He allowed through my documents re Paulette Cooper, including references from Nancy Many's book,
and allowed this below through.


Kathy Gold | November 15, 2010 at 5:36 pm | Reply

mike, you also need to realize, you were one of those people that inflicted pain on people for years as head of osa. 34 years is a long time of hurting people. you knew what you were doing was wrong, but you did it anyway. you loved your job as head of osa, the info, the voyeurism, the eval, the handling etc etc. and you were good at what you did. let’s not kid a kidder.

you went into the so to help but you stayed cause of the bottomline, you loved your job. it’s ok to love what you do. put it to positive use, for good instead of evil. now i guess the hard part for you to figure out is how to get an exchange for doing what you love to do, besides court.

here’s an idea, put your own corp there and set up shop to monitor miscavige, get the goods on him, etc etc. this will come in handy for all the court cases coming down the pike. it’s a win win for all
just do it ethically. ethics, tech & admin

martyrathbun09 | November 15, 2010 at 6:43 pm | Reply

Thank you Dr. Gold. Can I have a holier-than-thou eval too while you are at it?

I would not necessarily see that as Marty being "open". He does appear to let things through that will allow his lapdogs to attack, as shown by the responses she has received.

Sam | November 15, 2010 at 10:39 pm | Reply

<snip>
Now I’ve addressed that I want to take up your communication to Mike (I feel it is my right as his comment was addressed to me).
It is extremely bad form to reply to a man’s honest, open, sincere and quite beautiful sentiment with a kick in the face.
Aside from that, let me ask you this:
How do you know what Mike supposedly ‘did’?…. Hmmm….
Was the information that you are operating on disseminated by OSA (culled from Mike’s ethics and PC folders) or was it gleaned from Mike’s confessions as regards his own wrong doing? How is this any different from the exact subject we are talking about here?
We’ve ALL done things we are ashamed of, the fact that we are ashamed of those things makes us incredibly unique and honerable beings. How important are someone’s past transgressions to you?
What is important is what we do HERE and NOW.
Don’t get sucked into OSA type behavior – leave that to the professional Black Dianeticists.

Kathy Gold | November 16, 2010 at 1:19 am | Reply

to sam, i didn’t realize, honest, overt, direct comm was a kick in the face.
regarding my cycle, he watched the naked vid of me in my induced meltdown where i almost died. and then there was an op run on me, after i got out of the pysch hospital.

no, the information i’m operating on is my own personal experience.

i actually never did anything bad to anyone this life. i never fucked anyone over, i never stole, cheated, lied etc. it doesn’t mean i’m perfect and don’t have flaws. it just means, in present time, i have no transgressions on anybody. i guess, i was stupid in the past and i trusted the people in the church to help me when i asked for help. yes i agree, what i do here and now is important, but i won’t allow anyone to cut my survival. meaning die.

i’m not sucked into osa type behavior. i just know how they operate.

mrinder | November 16, 2010 at 1:40 am | Reply

Kathy — (if this is your real name), I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

I have never seen any naked vid of anyone in an induced meltdown?

Are you just trolling here?

Kathy Gold | November 16, 2010 at 2:08 am | Reply

to mrinder. yes my real name is Kathy Gold.

ok, you have no idea of what i’m talking about. fine. but as head of OSA, you knew, had purvue. I was in comm with OSA from the psych hospital. You don’t remember my cycle in Aug/Sept 1998?

mrinder | November 16, 2010 at 2:17 am | Reply

No Kathy, I dont remember your cycle. Are you still in a psych hospital?

 

[Mick Wenlock]

Dunno how accurate you are here Mick. I met the man, and was impressed as was Ax 142.

With all due reverence to my liking for you Terrill - that you and ax thought he was a good guy says volumes about your lack of ability to spot a complete prick.

You too spent years in the same endeavors as did your lovely wife. Its really a plus point all round.

that could only have been written by someone who was not in the SO. Nope I was not in the 'same endeavors" - what you just tried is a "tu quoque" logical fallacy. I never worked on enforcing davey's will nor did I live at Int, I didn't organize and run ops on people. For better or worse I tried to deliver the dreck called Scientology. As did most SO members.

Trying to make the world a better place, and we are all still trying.

saying that you are trying to make the world a better place does not mean that you actually are doing that. For example Jim Jones was "trying to make the world a better place" so was Aum Shinryko. Very very few people or entities ever set out by saying they are trying to make the world a worse place. But as you can see from my examples - some of them do exactly that.

Maybe one could say that was then, this is now.

and maybe one could say plus ca change plus ca reste la meme chose.

Anyway I'll post here a success story of Marty as an auditor. Met the
Mum Sam, a real fireball.

Finally you managed to make me loaugh long and hrad terrill! You actually posted a success story and expected it to be some sort of proof?

Oh for fuck's sake. You are a nice guy Terrill but boy you do have your head firmly up your rump.

 

[Good twin]

Oh I musta made a wrong turn I thought here were pictures on this thread.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Oh I musta made a wrong turn I thought here were pictures on this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mriXncI96lw


Mark A. Baker

 

[Terril park]

that could only have been written by someone who was not in the SO. Nope I was not in the 'same endeavors" - what you just tried is a "tu quoque" logical fallacy. I never worked on enforcing davey's will nor did I live at Int, I didn't organize and run ops on people. For better or worse I tried to deliver the dreck called Scientology. As did most SO members.

Wasn't in the SO. Don't grok the logical fallacy you
mention, an URL might help. My French is not so good.

Completely accept what you say. You are someone whose word I
trust.

 

[Terril park]

Wasn't in the SO. Don't grok the logical fallacy you
mention, an URL might help. My French is not so good.

Completely accept what you say. You are someone whose word I
trust.

Not that I agree with you in all matters.

 

[paradox]

Actually, I don't think it's a seagull.

It's an albatross*.

Oh well, I'm bored at the moment. Above, from pg 23 of thread, re mr's wordpress blog masthead logo pic.

Neither gull nor albatross (nor goose):

images of albatross
http://www.google.com/images?q=alba...tle&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQsAQwAA&biw=1308&bih=673

Probably a species of heron (maybe blue heron):
http://www.google.com/images?q=hero...tle&resnum=3&ved=0CEMQsAQwAg&biw=1308&bih=673

 

[Alanzo]

I would not necessarily see that as Marty being "open". He does appear to let things through that will allow his lapdogs to attack, as shown by the responses she has received.

I know Kathy Gold. She was a friend of mine and my family's in LA.

She did have a nervous breakdown and she was treated horribly by both CC and the Church, proving that they have no idea how to be the "Modern Science of Mental Health." Watching what happened to Kathy helped me to start waking up from Scientology.

Mike Rinder has now proven himself to be a completely broken man, with no conscience or humanity left, after subjecting himself to over 50 beatings from David Miscavige, and then coming out and still pushing Scientology on people.

That Mike Rinder would respond to a Church and OSA victim in this way proves this.

Marty and Mike have now proven themselves to be no one to look up to, nor to be anyone to "follow", seek adice from or even listen to. They are former criminals seeking to take over their old mob from the mob boss who dissed them.

That is all.

 

[VaD]

Oh I musta made a wrong turn I thought here were pictures on this thread.

I have a feeling that GT referred to the title of the thread.

 

[Infinite]

Marty and Mike have now proven themselves to be no one to look up to, nor to be anyone to "follow", seek adice from or even listen to. They are former criminals seeking to take over their old mob from the mob boss who dissed them.

That is all.

Being a tad harsh there, aren't you? Perhaps you didn't realise, Marty can cure cancer.

Marty, You know what a bonehead I can be about help. I’m not sure just where to post this but its a very special win that I would like to share. It has to do with help. Many may know that I have been sick. Two years ago I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. It wasn’t aggressive so the doctors and I decided to just watch it. Well, my kidneys failed and I spent some time in the hospital. I was very sick. Marty wanted to come save me. Well, I kept saying no and then finally in July he came to see me and brought his meter. Marty insisted. I was so sick when he came and I really felt bad cause I wanted to entertain but had trouble just climbing stairs. After twenty plus years of NO auditing Marty audited me on NOTs. WOW!

By the time Marty left I was a different man! Again WOW! This last Monday I had 18 biopsies done on my prostate. My doctor called on my birthday and said they could find NO CANCER! Double WOW! Who says the tech doesn’t work. Not me. God bless LRH and Marty Rathbun!

 

[Alanzo]

This is what I just posted on Marty's blog, and it immediately disappeared which means that I am still on some banned list.

I know Kathy Gold. She was a friend of my family's when I lived in LA. I watched what happened to her and how she was treated by the "Church". It is one of the things which helped me wake up from Scientology.

Your treatment of her here is despicable.

Mike Rinder needs to apologize.

You guys really are not making very much progress into humanity after Scientology. Your Int Base serv facs are still firmly in place, and you have NOT taken responsibility for your criminality as Scientology executives.

Your treatment of Kathy Gold here proves it.

Apologize.

 

[Krautfag]

Being a tad harsh there, aren't you? Perhaps you didn't realise, Marty can cure cancer.

Marty, You know what a bonehead I can be about help. I’m not sure just where to post this but its a very special win that I would like to share. It has to do with help. Many may know that I have been sick. Two years ago I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. It wasn’t aggressive so the doctors and I decided to just watch it. Well, my kidneys failed and I spent some time in the hospital. I was very sick. Marty wanted to come save me. Well, I kept saying no and then finally in July he came to see me and brought his meter. Marty insisted. I was so sick when he came and I really felt bad cause I wanted to entertain but had trouble just climbing stairs. After twenty plus years of NO auditing Marty audited me on NOTs. WOW!

By the time Marty left I was a different man! Again WOW! This last Monday I had 18 biopsies done on my prostate. My doctor called on my birthday and said they could find NO CANCER! Double WOW! Who says the tech doesn’t work. Not me. God bless LRH and Marty Rathbun!

OMFG

 

[Nicole]

Being a tad harsh there, aren't you? Perhaps you didn't realise, Marty can cure cancer.

Marty, You know what a bonehead I can be about help. I’m not sure just where to post this but its a very special win that I would like to share. It has to do with help. Many may know that I have been sick. Two years ago I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. It wasn’t aggressive so the doctors and I decided to just watch it. Well, my kidneys failed and I spent some time in the hospital. I was very sick. Marty wanted to come save me. Well, I kept saying no and then finally in July he came to see me and brought his meter. Marty insisted. I was so sick when he came and I really felt bad cause I wanted to entertain but had trouble just climbing stairs. After twenty plus years of NO auditing Marty audited me on NOTs. WOW!

By the time Marty left I was a different man! Again WOW! This last Monday I had 18 biopsies done on my prostate. My doctor called on my birthday and said they could find NO CANCER! Double WOW! Who says the tech doesn’t work. Not me. God bless LRH and Marty Rathbun!

Will he and they ever learn!


Does now Marty makes Scientology victims too?

 

[skollie]

Being a tad harsh there, aren't you? Perhaps you didn't realise, Marty can cure cancer.

This is shocking! How on earth can he make this claim when there are so many scientologists who died of cancer?

 

[supafreak]

This is shocking! How on earth can he make this claim when there are so many scientologists who died of cancer?

Complain to the health department. I know it's illegal to claim to be able to cure cancer here in Australia, and I don't see why it'd be different in the States.

 

[Infinite]

This is shocking! How on earth can he make this claim when there are so many scientologists who died of cancer?

For all the books that have been written, for all the videos, articles, websites and medical advice, for all the human stories and agony we see, it all comes down to one word: denial.

 

[KathyGold]

to alanzo,

thank you for sticking up for me. i never expected in a gazillion years that would happen from anyone, and I want to tell you, for me, that was a good enough amends.

loveya al don't ever change.

also, here's my response to both rathbun and rinder, that they didn't post and deleted. they cut my comm.

http://www.myspace.com/kathygold/blog/540688683

and yeah, you are right, they are both far gone.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

to alanzo,

thank you for sticking up for me. i never expected in a gazillion years that would happen from anyone, and I want to tell you, for me, that was a good enough amends.

loveya al don't ever change.

also, here's my response to both rathbun and rinder, that they didn't post and deleted. they cut my comm.

http://www.myspace.com/kathygold/blog/540688683

and yeah, you are right, they are both far gone.

I'm late to this exchange. I walked away from the Co$ in 1976. I'm sorry the group became luny. What can we or even me do for you? We are not Mike and Marty aka Scientology Lite .

 

[KathyGold]

to: CarmeloOrchards

"I'm late to this exchange. I walked away from the Co$ in 1976. I'm sorry the group became luny. What can we or even me do for you? We are not Mike and Marty aka Scientology Lite ."

continue being you

as far as my meltdown goes, i took a journey and confronted the truth of what really happened to me and why my church betrayed me. and it feels great lol my needle is floating

 

[shanic89]

You know I was wondering how m&m and their followers get on in the real world?

I was looking at this site and a work colleague ask what site I was reading I shot him the URL and when I looked over he was on mrs blog shaking his head. I asked how he got there and he pointed out this thread. He and I talked a wee bit and the conclusion is they are not able to handle the real world. It must be a scary place for them all.