I think this is a very good post by Marty. He does speak truth, and yes, some of it is shaded, being HIS truth, but he did write it FOR scnos, not non-scnos or exes.
So it's the truth. But shaded. (As in not really truth?). Being HIS truth. (As in lies?)
He wrote it FOR scnos. not non-scnos or exes. ( As in lies? or half truths?)
He speaks 'a' truth - to scnos - who want to go on being scnos, but are questioning what is going on with the co$. He is telling them, from personal knowledge and experience, having been on on both sides of it, in and out, that if they have contacted, or are going to contact Debbie Cook, they are putting their heads on an osa/dm chopping block, and the ax is raised and ready to strike.
He knows what he is doing, but Debbie doesn't. Debbie = dumb. Marty = intelligent.
Debbie = loser. Marty = winner.
It is a warning of what to expect, as Debbie had no idea and easily succumbed to osa/co$/dm tactics and pressures.
Oh yeah, it's a warning alright. How many here have been warned by scientologists (Reges, recruiters, ethics officers, etc,) what would happen if they did "x", (what they wanted do) rather than what the scientologist wanted them to do.
BTW has Debbie succumbed to osa/co$/dm tactics and pressures? Maybe Marty proved that somewhere. I haven't seen it.
Marty is giving those scnos 'disaffected' with co$/dm, a 'safe harbor' - with the Indies - Strength in numbers.
I agree . . . in more ways than one.
Yes, strength in numbers...for Marty. Yes, 'safe habor'...for Marty. Remember, if he cannot maintain a unified front with him in the lead, god knows what Marty crimes may be exposed as scientology falls apart and there is no particular allegiance to him.
Yeah, the disaffected scnos can come here, but how many do you really think will go that route? And how is ESMB going to protect a newly-out 'disaffected scno' who still wants to be a scno? ESMB attacks those poor little still-scno-believing newbies, and tries to annhilate their belief system.
Just like I am now trying to "annihilate (your) belief system" about Marty.?
I don't expect to have any success at it.
Stepping stone here, folks, stepping stones. I think Marty's post is the most honest I've read from him yet. Even he is getting there.
Yeah, it's the most honest I've ever read too, which, relatively speaking, on the point of honesty, puts it exactly nowhere in particular. Your point about "...Even he is getting there..." Has been expressed in the past by some posters. To me it always looks like a case of projection. Seeing one's own impulse to be better, more honest, and projecting it on someone who is a liar and a manipulator and has never shown (as far as I can see) that he is really headed in the same direction, or has the same intentions and aspirations as those who project their own struggles/journey onto Marty. Just my opinion.
Marty just wants to be a scno - and until he proves himself to be another dm, I am giving him the benefit of a doubt. That does not mean I agree with him - but in this 'war', to bring down co$, we must be allies, not enemies. United front, doing what we can - as we choose . . . Isn't that what it is all about anyway, the freedom to choose? The curious Indies will be looking in other places . . . one stepping stone at a time.
Strange logic. ".... If Marty doesn't prove himself to me another dm, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt....." He cannot be a dm because there is already a dm and if he wants to be a dm you may have to wait forever. Why not look at Marty's past and Marty's present and Marty's words about what kind of world he wants around him. "...Just wants to be a scno..." Exactly. A pure Hubbardarian Scientologist.
Obviously, if I took the time to write this response I was trying to be convincing. But I expect to complelety fail in that.