Mimsey Borogrove
Crusader
So Marty recommends reading Ken Wilbur's "a brief history of everything" a couple weeks ago - and I wonder, now that I am half way through the book - How did Marty miss Ken's viewpoint? Ken launches into the different stages of development from an infant to an adult. Well, I am not using "adult" correctly according to his scheme of things, since he is really referring to the changes in awareness one progresses through from the narcissistic view point of the baby to wider and wider world views.
It seems to me, Hubbard was stuck into the narcissistic level of child developement at the lower levels of Ken's observed progression scale (below) The us or them mentality, is actually a low level of development, and interestingly it is a big part of cult think. Though Ken is not directly discussing Scientology, what he is saying is pretty damning of cults in general (and Scientology in particular) and fundamentalist religions, for their lack of world view.
From Wiki. My comments in red. So, how did Marty miss that? Marty says that Wilburs book validates Scientology, but the whole concept of the super ego OT has nothing whatsoever with Ken's higher states of ascension. In fact, he (Marty) is so enamored with Hubbard he says this:
Mimsey
It seems to me, Hubbard was stuck into the narcissistic level of child developement at the lower levels of Ken's observed progression scale (below) The us or them mentality, is actually a low level of development, and interestingly it is a big part of cult think. Though Ken is not directly discussing Scientology, what he is saying is pretty damning of cults in general (and Scientology in particular) and fundamentalist religions, for their lack of world view.
Levels or stages
The concept of levels follows closely on the concept of lines of development. The more highly developed you are in a particular line, the higher level you are at in that line. Wilber's conception of the level is clearly based on several theories of developmental psychology, including: Piaget's theory of cognitive development,[16] Kohlberg's stages of moral development, Maslow's hierarchy of needs, Erikson's stages of psychosocial development, and Jane Loevinger's stages of ego development.
One such scheme describes the ethical developmental line, for example:
Egocentric (similar to Carol Gilligan's 'Selfish' stage) This is where Hubbard seems to be stuck developmentally- everything has to do with his ego and the ego fulfillment touted by his tech
Ethnocentric or Sociocentric (Gilligan's 'Care' stage)This seems to correlate with the cult mentality - our group is the only group - which defines Scientology
Worldcentric (Gilligan's 'Universal Care' stage)
Being-centric (Gilligan's 'Integrated' stage)
From Wiki. My comments in red. So, how did Marty miss that? Marty says that Wilburs book validates Scientology, but the whole concept of the super ego OT has nothing whatsoever with Ken's higher states of ascension. In fact, he (Marty) is so enamored with Hubbard he says this:
Am I to believe there was no valid spiritual research in the known world beyond Scientology? Thus, I guess that statement pegs Marty at the Egocentric level of a newborn child, only caring of it's own self.The indirect validations of Scientology in his chapters dealing with spiritual and philosophical evolution are remarkable, particularly when one sees there are no mentions of the subject, and no indication the author has any familiarity with Scientology.
Mimsey