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Meditation, Yoga and other practices

Discussion in 'Evaluating and Criticising Scientology' started by Tom_Booth, Apr 19, 2014.

  1. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    Being a buddhism practitionner (meditation) , over the years I've ask for explanations from few teachers and it also leaded to long discussions in the shanga with others practitionners.

    It's only a figurative way to say : There is not definition or representation of a buddha that holds
    The nature of Buddha is whithin us - nothing to search for
    so when someone says : to be a buddha is or this is a buddha
    Kill this illusion or misconception.

    It's almost like saying : If you meet the freedom and the knowledge - Kill them!

    (almost what we do , when out of the $cientology paedlar path of illusion)

    * LRH didn't apparently study the true nature of a buddha while apparently being immersed in buddhism - he thaught he could fool the buddhist monks with telling them HE was the Buddha! :biggrin:
    They must have been laughing IF they read Hymns of Asia.

    Only MHO!
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2014
  2. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Tom_Booth has repeatedly invited people to call him at the Harlem Org:

    "Give me a call. I'd love it. Ask for Tom Booth: (212) 828-1825 (Harlem Church of Scientology)"

    Give him a call, Claire, and let us know what happens.
  3. Claire Swazey

    Claire Swazey Spokeshole, fence sitter

    Do they have caller id? I know they're lame and mid 20th centuryish but ya never know. Should I go find a pay phone?

    While I'm at it, should I ask 'em if they have Prince Albert in a can?
  4. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    You can have the phone company block caller ID. Check your phone bill. It may already be blocked.

    But don't worry. You're breaking no laws.

    Just call, ask for Tom Booth the maintenance man.

    Then, you may wish to mention that you're responding to his many requests that others call him at the Harlem Org.

    You might also add that you read this request of Tom's on the Ex Scientologist Message Board. Tom assures us that everyone at the Org knows he posts here and it's not a problem.

    Then, let us know what happened. :)

    And, Tom, please let us know how the below meeting went:

    If they give you a hard time, Tom, just tell them about the 'Creed of the Church of Scientology."
  5. Intentionally Blank

    Intentionally Blank Scientology Widow

    *67 before you dial. Do a test to someone you know first.

    I always liked "Is your refrigerator running?" ;)

  6. Claire Swazey

    Claire Swazey Spokeshole, fence sitter

    Like I'd be so stupid as to think calling and asking for someone is illegal. And like I'd even worry about rule bending, even if twere so. Jesus.

    (Obviously, one would as lief not be fucked with by the cult.)

    Used to be, one had to pay for the *67 thingie. It's free now?
  7. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Great!, then give them a call and congratulate them on the new era of reform and freedom!

    "It has come to my attention that some Scientologists
    have not been abiding by the Creed of the Church of Scientology.
    I was shocked to discover this. LRH loved the Creed and lived by it,
    as do I, and it is expected that all Scientologists do also."

  8. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    Hey, you better go catch it!

  9. Demented LRH

    Demented LRH Patron Meritorious

    After I left SO, I was going through Purification program in Big Blue. Before going to sauna I used to do some yoga exercises in the waiting room. One day I was told that the Church doesn’t allow its members to practice any other religion. I said that I am doing exercises to improve my health, not to pray to Hinduism gods. The issue was resolved. Hubbard may have studied Buddhism, but he totally misunderstood it. For example, Buddhists do not believe in the souls, spirits, thetans., etc., because these fictional entities cannot be detected. The Buddhist doctrine that denies the existence of these entities is called No-atman Doctrine (The word “atman” means “soul” in Sanskrit). As for Hubbard’s shitty poem, where he proclaims that he is Buddha, not a single Buddhist denomination accepts it as a statement from Buddha.
  10. Claire Swazey

    Claire Swazey Spokeshole, fence sitter

    I guess I would if I felt like doing it and if I felt like taking orders or suggestions from you.
  11. Claire Swazey

    Claire Swazey Spokeshole, fence sitter

    Yah. And the thing about other practices is left to staff to interpret. In a given situation, one staffer may be like, yeah, whatever, doesn't seem like an "other practice" to me, whereas another one will say "Hold up! Squirreling a'comin'!"

    For a guy who tried to set forth every little thing, revising, rerevising PL and ED and HCOB after PL and ED and HCOB again and again, he sure left a lot of stuff to be interpreted.

    Another way it's a cluster fuck is that Hubbard and the present day cult claimed and claims that they are ok with a person practicing their original religion. But thing is- religions often contain practices. Stations of the Cross? It's a practice. Prayer? It's a practice. Yoga and meditation, we've mentioned. Some religions contain partial or full fasting. Try doing that when you have course the next day and if you have auditing or word clearing scheduled, fahgeddabouddit!

    Hubbard did complain about yoga meaning yoke and that it meant the person was to be yoked to his body. That's a pretty silly thing for him to have said, indeed.