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Emma

Con te partirò
Administrator
The following threads concern this board.

http://z15.invisionfree.com/Operation__CoSplay/index.php?showtopic=576

http://z15.invisionfree.com/Operation__CoSplay/index.php?showtopic=540

http://z15.invisionfree.com/Operation__CoSplay/index.php?showtopic=306

Please understand this.

We cannot condone illegal activity and we want to play no part in that.

If it is information you are after then please just ask. There is no need for covert shmoozing up to the admin that has been suggested. There is no need for psyops. No need for games.

There is certainly no need for the 30 signups we got in one day that caused me to have to suspend new registrations.

We just want to be left alone to do our own thing in our own way.

We realise we cannot stop you doing what you want to do, but you must understand that we will NOT assist or condone any illegal activity.

This board is for EX Scientologists, RECOVERING from a cult experience. The very same cult you want to take down.

As Alanzo has already said:

You would never have learned what you have learned about the Church of Scientology if it were not for the work of ExScns

Please respect our right to go about our business of exposing the abuses of Scientology in our own way.
 
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Tanstaafl

Crusader
Well said Emma.

These guys are not hard to figure out. Note how we are referred to as "pawns" and "cannon fodder".

There are comparisons with CoS. They will cynically use/exploit anyone to further their own ends, whatever the consequences. The use of the term "faggots". Nice PR! Just like Hubbard used "Wogs" - a highly offensive term in Britain used against immigrant blacks.

They are "legion". Just like the BTs that Jesus supposedly cast into the Gaderen swine.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Thanks for the links, Ems. I just read them. Most of the posters there seem quite rational, but they know dick about Scn and don't seem to know where to even start looking online.

One of Hubbard's stated war policies was always to be willing to parley with the enemy. In fact my first e-mail address when I started posting under my real name was will_parley@ (whatever).com, but no-one from the CofS ever took me up on it.

I don't see Anonymous as an enemy at all. They want the abuses of the CofS stopped; we want the abuses of the CofS stopped.

Mostly, ex-Scn-type people want to keep to the high road about it. There isn't a firm line that Anon has re illegal actions--it's just a bunch of individuals too, but it is a very large bunch. One of the posts on their forum said that it could be a good idea to become allies--they have the numbers but don't know much about Scientology, and vice versa.

So I might just mosey over there and start posting a bit, particularly as they quoted a couple of my posts. Not as a spokesman for anyone, but just speaking for myself. (But not for a few hours as I have to go out somewhere.)

Paul
 

Emma

Con te partirò
Administrator
Thanks for the links, Ems. I just read them. Most of the posters there seem quite rational, but they know dick about Scn and don't seem to know where to even start looking online.

One of Hubbard's stated war policies was always to be willing to parley with the enemy. In fact my first e-mail address when I started posting under my real name was will_parley@ (whatever).com, but no-one from the CofS ever took me up on it.

I don't see Anonymous as an enemy at all. They want the abuses of the CofS stopped; we want the abuses of the CofS stopped.

Mostly, ex-Scn-type people want to keep to the high road about it. There isn't a firm line that Anon has re illegal actions--it's just a bunch of individuals too, but it is a very large bunch. One of the posts on their forum said that it could be a good idea to become allies--they have the numbers but don't know much about Scientology, and vice versa.

So I might just mosey over there and start posting a bit, particularly as they quoted a couple of my posts. Not as a spokesman for anyone, but just speaking for myself.

Paul

I agree that they seem rational etc. I agree that we have a common enemy.

I just have to make it very clear that we cannot be associated withy any illegal activity.

As far as their legal activities go, I say GO FOR IT!

The problem is that whilst they are anonymous, the majority of us are not.
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
Einstein on Gandhi:


I believe that Gandhi's views were the most enlightened of all the political men in our time.

We should strive to do things in his spirit: not to use violence in fighting for our cause, but by non-participation in anything you believe is evil.


This is a reflection of my views on how to handle the Church of Scientology.

After all, Gandhi's methods expelled the powerful British Empire from India, and gained its independence.

Why would anyone think that Gandhi's methods should NOT be used against something like the Church of Scientology?

Gandhi KICKED ASS in a white diaper.

Something for Anonymous to think about.

Until they renounce illegal activity and the suppression of the rights of others in this fight against Scientology, I will not be participating in their activities.

But make that one promise - and you will have my full support.

Alanzo
ExScn
 

Tanstaafl

Crusader
One of the posts on their forum said that it could be a good idea to become allies--they have the numbers but don't know much about Scientology, and vice versa.

Emphasis mine.
Another post I saw recommended funding Freezone dissem stalls alongside those of CoS in shopping malls. Apparently, the Freezone provides all Church services for "free". Now, where did I put Pierre's number? :eyeroll:

These are kindergarten retards spoiling for a fight. If it wasn't CoS they'd find someone else to try to kick the shit out of.

They are playing into the hands of the indoctrination that all critics are SPs.
The only people they are likely to deter from CoS are those who wouldn't have touched it with a barge-pole anyway.

www.scientology.org goes down for a day. Whoop-te-fucking-do!
Most recruits for staff come from body reg's on the street and the OCA line, in my experience.
 

lionheart

Gold Meritorious Patron
They lack information and morality to some extent.

They are the Church's SP's! :hysterical:

Ron sowed these seeds and his Church will reap what he sowed.

I don't see it as right or wrong and I wouldn't do what they are doing at all. But I suspect they may in fact seriously damage the CofS. They may also damage the ex-Scn critical movement.

Damage to the CofS - Good thing for all lovers of freedom.

The success they achieve will re-inforce their belief that they can be terrorist judge and jury against anything on the web that they take a dislike to.

Bad thing for all lovers of freedom.

The CofS is what it is and they are what they are.
 

chipgallo

Patron Meritorious
Gotta agree. None of the old "entry routes" into Scientology such as Purif, Study Tech, Book One, etc. had any dependency on internet, e-mail, even horseless carriages! Orgs are very labor intensive places. You aren't going to stem the flow of cash by misplacing a few packets in the ether.

Anybody ever see one of the so-called Automatic Registrars as defined in the Admin Dictionary? Problem is, it can't lean across the desk and firmly say:

"Crack is ruining your life and Scientology can do something about that!!!!"

 

alex

Gold Meritorious Patron
For more insight into the "culture" from which the "anons" emerge, visit:

http://www.4chan.org/

Which could best be described as a gamer/porn related site. (and the online home to some of the "leaders" of the anons)

If you dig down into the message boards you will find a different world.

alex
 

lionheart

Gold Meritorious Patron
For more insight into the "culture" from which the "anons" emerge, visit:

http://www.4chan.org/

Which could best be described as a gamer/porn related site. (and the online home to some of the "leaders" of the anons)

If you dig down into the message boards you will find a different world.

alex

Similar to the CofS where if you "dig down" beyond the glossy Good Roads PR you will find a different world of degredation.

The CofS has created this situation with their decades of abuse. Now they are being abused back.

Like you said earlier, it is very interesting to watch this unfold.:whistling:
 

Lovesnightsky

Silver Meritorious Patron
Their threads talk about wanting information on the secret doctrines etc.. And other ways to bring them down. Well, the OT levels are easily available online with a simple search on google or other search engine.
Most scientologists are told not to go online in the first place, and like others have pointed out the online presence doesn't really bring income to the church.
If they think that the fact that some of us don't like their tactics is fag, then they should read this board, I for one do not like "fair game" tactics and it's one of the reasons why I left in the first place.
If they want to hurt the church, then why don't they go to the churches and instead of trying to get secret data from computers that don't exists, join staff for a week and work from within, put copies of lrh's coroner's report in their coat pockets for example.
Or perhaps they could use their hacking abilities to send the true stories of real people who have been killed, abused or sued and make sure it appears in all the press of the world.
Sending disturbing pictures to staff or public in the church is going to make them dig the trenches even deeper. If anything, they should send real accounts of people who have been abused by the church. After all, these cases are kept secret from staff and public and if at least one person started questioning the church after reading it, that's one person less in their ranks. Print the stuff out and hand it out to public and staff in the churches.
What gets me is that all the information they are asking for is readily available in this forum and on others sites on the web and if they are so savvy with the internet then how come they haven't found it?
I get the feeling they want validation for what they are doing from the one group that has been most hurt by the church and the fact that we are not giving it, it makes us "fag". Problem is, there isn't really an "us".
We are individuals and we each act on our own accord. We are not all anonymous here, and we certainly don't respond to hive commands.

These are my personal views and in no way reflect or represent anyone else's views on this forum.
 
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Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
I am working on redirecting the Anon attack from all the stupid non-productive stuff to something useful, i.e. exposing abuses.

I have just been asked where to get more abuse-type stories. I would categorize these as credible first-person stories of typical CofS-caused hardships. What goes on on staff; financial rip-offs; disconnection etc.

Where are the best places to find HEAPS of these?

Quick answer please.

Paul
 

Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
I am working on redirecting the Anon attack from all the stupid non-productive stuff to something useful, i.e. exposing abuses.

I have just been asked where to get more abuse-type stories. I would categorize these as credible first-person stories of typical CofS-caused hardships. What goes on on staff; financial rip-offs; disconnection etc.

Where are the best places to find HEAPS of these?

Quick answer please.

Paul

http://alley.ethercat.com/door/index.html

"This website explores the thoughts of people who have participated in the Church of Scientology - their reasons for joining, for staying, their thoughts while a member, and their reasons for leaving the organization. It is hoped that through this series of interviews, people who have never been members can gain a comprehension of the motivations shared by the members and ex-members, as well as an understanding of the different experiences members have had."

170+ contributions to date. No comments, no editing, just what what people want to say.
 

MarkWI

Patron Meritorious
http://alley.ethercat.com/door/index.html

"This website explores the thoughts of people who have participated in the Church of Scientology - their reasons for joining, for staying, their thoughts while a member, and their reasons for leaving the organization. It is hoped that through this series of interviews, people who have never been members can gain a comprehension of the motivations shared by the members and ex-members, as well as an understanding of the different experiences members have had."

170+ contributions to date. No comments, no editing, just what what people want to say.

That's what come to my mind too. They can pick up stories from that site, print them and hand them out in front of orgs.

Most scientologist know nothing about what happened to Mary Sue. How miscavige had her to sign papers may interest some. It may be formatted and handed over.
http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/jesse_tape3h.html

Doubt formulas are also a good reading: Michael Leonard Tilse, Susan MacDonald Public Announcemen, Rasmus Doubt Formula
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
Just spitballing here in the Message to Anonymous thread....

What if someone located Mike Rinder?

Mike Rinder was the head of the Office of Special Affairs for 20 years. He ran all the Fair Game projects on critics and those who simply wanted to reform the Church's despicable ways.

He disappeared from his post around 3 months ago (during the BBC footbullet fiasco) and is last rumored to be working as a salesman somewhere in Virginia.

If anyone should locate him - THEY SHOULD NOT APPROACH HIM.

They should report back as this is a very delicate situation.

Here's why, and you must understand this, and you must get all Anonfags to grok this fully:

We want Mike Rinder to come over to our side with what he knows, or to go directly to the FBI.

What Mike Rinder knows will bring down David Miscavage and possibly send him to jail.

Bringing down David Miscavage - legally - brings down the corrupt and destructive nature of the Church of Scientology.

Bringing down David Miscavage - legally - and his corrupt power structure equals victory for Anonymous, and for ExScns, and for all Mankind.

Thus, this is a LEGAL project. In the way that Mike Rinder's PIs located critics in order to later harass them, maybe Anonymous might be able to locate Mike Rinder so that he can finally come clean.

Kind of an interesting idea, don't you think?
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
Here's a pic of Mikey "Crikey" Rinder.

rinder.jpg


He's originally from Melbourne, Australia.

Here's Scientology's press page about him - (still up, by the way)

http://www.scientology.org/scnnews/rinder.htm
 

mike

Patron
Mike Rinder

There is no actual evidence that Rinder has blown and as far as I know it is only rumor.

The fact that his page has been left up is another indicator. Generally when a person blows, especially a high ranking person, all references to that person are deleted in a "1984" fashion.

I am wondering if he is simply lying low for now.

Mike
IFA
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
Here's the information you need to know

An Alt.Religion.Scientology FAQ (1.7.6)
http://www.daisy.freeserve.co.uk/faq.htm
A.R.S.. Short FAQ for Newcomers version 0.12
http://suburbia.net/%7efun/scn/links/ufaq.txt
Cult Awareness and Information Centre
http://www.culthelp.info/
http://www.altreligionscientology.org/
http://www.Factnet.org Lawrence Wollersheim's Cult information site
http://www.xenu.net Andreas Heldal-Lund's Operation Clambake
http://www.lermanet.com Arnie Lerma's 4500+ pages of Exposing the Con
http://www.xenutv.com Mark Bunker's Video & Audio archives for ex-scns
Former OT 7-telling her story since she left Scientology Tory
Christman.She Used to be Tory Bezazian http://www.torymagoo.org
Open Letter To Mike Rinder From Rovert Vaughn Young
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/tomikerinder.htm
Personal Stories of former members
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/mystory/
Friend of Mankind: 4 part documentary compiled from news broadcasts
www.xenutv.com/friendofmankind.htm
Scientology - Through the Door - Interviews with ex-members of the
Church of Scientology,
exploring their reasons for joining, staying, and leaving.
http://alley.ethercat.com/door/ *Do your's online, too.*
The death of L Ron Hubbard: Documents and facts
http://www.xenu.net/archive/hubbardcoroner/
Are the mysterious deaths of Lisa McPherson & L. Ron Hubbard
connected?
http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/hubbard_death.htm
Documents Of A Lifetime - the uncensored L. Ron Hubbard papers
http://www.spaink.net/cos/LRH-bio/lrhpaper.htm
A PIECE OF BLUE SKY by Jon Atack
www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/atack/
Inside Scientology /Dianetics How I Joined Dianetics/Scientology and
Became Superhuman by Robert Kaufman (1995 revision)
http://www.factnet.org/Books/InsideScientology/index.htm
Top 20 pages visited on Lermanet.com
http://www.lermanet2.com/top20.html
Affidavits and personal stories of life in Scientology
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/
Operation Clambake (aka Xenu.net ) presents: FAQ's
http://www.xenu.net/cb-faq.html
The Scientology Critical Information Directory
Documenting critical information in the news and on the web
http://www.xenu-directory.net
These, along with the list below, are just a FEW OF THE MANYsites with
valuable information COS & OSA do not want you to access. Their fear
is that you will find information that will prompt you to question
matters that you have every right to question. That is what freedom is
all about.
These sites are not placed in any particular order outside of
category:
Maria Pia Gardini. OT VIII, Class 9 Auditor Exposes Scientology
www.xenutv.com/interviews/maria.htm
http://www.antisectes.net Roger Gonnet, Fmr Pres. of Lyon Org/ Lyon
Assocs in France
http://www.lisamcpherson.org Jeff Jacobsen's site dedicated to Lisa, a
CoS victim
http://www.xenu-directory.net The critics 'Who What where'
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
http://www.carolineletkeman.org/ Refund and Reparation
http://www.factnet.org/
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/mystory/ supporter and critic
testimonies
http://www.freewebs.com/chuckbeatty77
http://www.lisamcpherson.org
http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk Hartley Patterson ARSCC
http://www.lermanet.com/faqs.html
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm Tory on OSA
http://www.holysmoke.org
http://www.operatingthetan.com/ Keith Henson
http://www.stop-narconon.org
Dave Touretzky's ' The COS's Wacky secrets' 4 the Critical study of
Scientology
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/ http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/
We ex-members have our own org right here on the net....
http://www.suppressiveperson.org/
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.info To counter RFW disinformation.
http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/Scientology_Cult_Videos_197_2006.php
http://www.perkinstragedy.org Jeremy & Elle Perkins Tragedy
http://www.ScienTOMogy.com
http://www.suentology.com
http://www.raids.org
http://www.lermanet.com/paulette-cooper updated June 2007
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com Lisa McPherson story (video)
http://www.entheta.net/
http://www.modemac.com/cos
http://www.StopScientology.com
http://www.paulettecooper.com/
http://www.StopScientology.com
http://www.whatisscientology.net
http://www.parishioners.info
http://www.scientology-lies.com. Kristi Wachter's site
http://www.stopdisconnection.com
http://www.disconnectioninscientology.com
http://truthaboutscientology.com Critical Facts, COS Stats and info
http://www.whyaretheydead.net Scientology related Deaths
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com
http://warrior.xenu.ca/ Mark Plummer's Archives
http://www.solitarytrees.net/ Ted Mayette & Friends
http://www.operatingthetan.com/ Keith Henson News
http://www.crackpots.org/ NarCONon is Scientology!
http://www.skeptictank.org/ Fredric L. Rice
http://xenutv.wordpress.com/ THE WOG BLOG from XENU TV
http://fire.prohosting.com/tomweeks Tom Weeks
http://www.scientology-kills.org/ Valerie Emanuel's Scientology
Kills
http://cgi.amazing.com/scientology/
http://www.scamofscientology.nl
Archives of The Lisa McPherson Trust
http://www.xenu.net/archive/events/lisa_mcpherson/the_trust/
David Mayo, ex Scientology proponent, talks of the 20 page despatch
from L. Ron Hubbard
to him, 1983-84 talk. YouTube video http://tinyurl.com/399r95
Operation Clambake presents: Hubbard Audio Collection -These are
audio
files in MP3 , WAV or RealAudio formats. The recording is actually L
Ron Hubbard talking about these subjects:
BTs | The Christ Game | Dumping | Friends | Frozen | Helicopter | No
Christ | The Obscene Dog | Roman Catholicism | Van Allen | Venus | The
Casbah | Espinol | Helatrobus Goals | Crowley | Jupiter | God |
Inventing God | Yahweh | Calculus | Gamma Rays | God Dynamic | Know |
Knowledge | Mars | Prison Planet | Ron the Mathematician | Smoking |
Venusian | Blindness | Babies | Crocodile | Negro | Tech80 |
Tech88
http://www.xenu.net/archive/multimedia.html
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New additions:
Letters to a Scientologist by Sasha Zbitnoff, 2nd Gen ex-Scn
http://tinyurl.com/2tfw3g
http://www.helenandsasha.com/ltrs_to_a_scientologist-The%20Letters.htm
I Escaped Scientology by John Duignan 9/11/07
http://www.orato.com/node/3514/&page=1
OT VIII Michael Pattinson's Experiences
http://www.lermanet2.com/michaelpattinson/
Burning Bridges by Catherine (Pool) Jacob, former widow of John
Boucher
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?highlight=boucher&t=579
Karen Pressley (formerly Karen Schless Pressley)
Escaping Scientology: An Insider's True Story
http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/pressley1.html
http://karenpressley.com/links.asp (articles on scn are linked here)
Help Stop The Suppression of Ex-Member Free Speech:
Support the book by Karen Pressley (formerly Karen Schless Pressley)
http://tinyurl.com/3a8guz
http://www.amazon.com/Escaping-Scientology-Insiders-True-Story/dp/159...
An Illustrated History of Scientology in Color
http://www.rickvodicka.com/Scientology.htm
http://www.rickvodicka.com/CONTENT/scientology2/IHS-3.pdf
Celebrity Critics of Scientology - Celebrities against Scientology
http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/celebcrit.html
CoS fears Hollywood's Mark Ebner
http://www.hollywoodinterrupted.com
BBC Radio report on Volunteer Ministers, 2 July 2006
http://www.daisy.freeserve.co.uk/stolgy_23.htm
Scientology in the media
http://home.primus.ca/~ronshar-p/frontcite.html
Facts about the Scientology's Volunteer Minister Program
http://cosvm.xenu-directory.net/
Scientology critical sites: Other Language Sites:
(Google has a translator http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en)
Schwarzbuch Scientology (Broschiert) von Ursula Caberta (Autor)
http://www.antipsychiatrieverlag.de/versand/titel/caberta.htm
Jean-Luc Barbier's
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY IN EUROPA : US CULT GO HOME!
http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/english-index.htm#H
Stadt Hamburg: Die Arbeitsgruppe Scientology-governmental group
Ursula Camberta runs in Hamburg. http://tinyurl.com/38nrf2
http://fhh.hamburg.de/stadt/Aktuell/behoerden/inneres/arbeitsgruppe-s...
MIEI ANNI IN SCIENTOLOGY Autore: MARIA PIA GARDINI (OT VIII / Cl 9)
& ALBERTO LAGGIA (Italy) http://xenu.com-it.net/txt/mariapia05.htm
http://tinyurl.com/3d8to8
http://www.paoline.it/site_ecomm/libreria/prodotto.asp?dep_id=16&IdPr...
Declarations from the scientology official to the IRS
http://www.xenufrance.net
http://www.antisectes.net by Roger Gonnet, Fmr Pres. Lyon Org/
LyonAssoc. France
Official texts, legal judgements, expertises, governmental reports on
scientology and its employees (From France, in french)
http://www.antisectes.net/index-law.htm
http://scientologie.fraude.free.fr
http://ccdh.critique.free.fr
http://narconon.critique.free.fr
http://www.scamofscientology.nl
http://www.holysmoke.org/theta.htm
French translations of Lisa McPherson Trust
http://www.antisectes.net/indexlmt.htm
http://xenu.com-it.net/ Italian Clam Bake
http://xenu.com-it.net/update.htm
Jean-Luc Barbier Anti-scientologie
http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/index.html#H
Jean-Luc Barbier Anti-scientologie#H INDEX DEUTSCHE PRESSE-ARTIKEL
http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/Index-Presseartikel.htm#H
German Wochen-Review aus der alt.religion.scientology, seit 1995
http://www.religio.de/publik/arsfaq.html
Scam of Scientology (Netherlands) by Peter Schilte,aka 'Navy'
http://www.scamofscientology.nl/
Here is a site that containspress coverage in many languages:
http://www.moreaboutscientologycult.eu
Message Boards & Groups
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/topics?lnk=gs....
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XSO/ For Ex Sea Org Members
http://ocmb.lermanet.us/discussion/
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/26600/26600.html?1177143384
http://forum.exscn.net/
http://forum.rickross.com/
http://narcononvictims.com VICTIMS of NARCONON Message Board
Blogs of importance ( send me links. This section under
construction ;)
http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com/ Hartley Patterson
http://scientology-facts.blogspot.com/ Facts About Scientology by Shy
David
http://stopscientology.blogspot.com/
http://wollersheim.blogspot.com/ Lawrence Wollersheim FactNet Blog
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/ Not afraid to post news critical of
CoS
http://free-from-scientology.blogspot.com Formerly Fooled
http://thaddeusgadfly.com/ Are you a Scientologist? thaddeusgadfly
http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/Scientology_Cult_Videos_197_2006.php
http://ars-week-in-review.blogspot.com/ (a.r.s. Week in Review )
http://www.thethinkingblog.com/2007/05/scientology-exposed.html
http://scientomogy.blogspot.com/
http://www.blogtoplist.com/rss/scientology.html
http://xenubarb.blogspot.com
http://clamicide.livejournal.com/
http://bfhu.wordpress.com/2007/11/18/286/
http://www.theskepticsguide.org/sgublog/?p=53
http://scientologytm.blogspot.com/ Scientologytm blog
Top 10 Problems With Scientology http://tinyurl.com/2rn59v
http://listverse.com/bizarre/top-10-problems-with-scientology/#commen...
Facts about Scientology as a religion: Web sites of importance:
http://www.bible.ca/scientology.htm "If you ain't got money.. ...."
http://www.bible.ca/scientology-christianity-compared.htm
http://contenderministries.org/scientology.php
Why Christians Object to Scientology:
http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/2000/september4/8.93.html
Is Scientology compatible with Christianity? Let's ask L. Ron Hubbard
www.skeptictank.org/compat.htm
Church of Scientology Research resources, News, and News Archive
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/s04a.html
Bradley Woodward's Christianity and Scientology - A Comparison:
http://www.ami.com.au/~bradw/cos/
http://www.sweenytod.com/cos/ Scientology and Christianity Examined
http://www.religiousshunning.org The Committee on Religious Shunning
Tom Cruise vs. Karen Schless Pressley-Scientology War of the Worlds
http://tinyurl.com/yscl5n
http://www.4truth.net/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?c=hiKXLbPNLrF&b=78455...
Scientology Comparative Religion This web site was created to promote
the scholarly study of the beliefs and practices of Dianetics and
Scientology
www.ezlink.com/~perry/CoS/Theology/index.htm
Comparative list of important Landmarks between Scientology and
Freemasonry
http://tinyurl.com/yw2zds
http://www.tracyrtwyman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/ScientologyLandma...
More Noteworthy sites:
Transcript: Q & A on Scientology w/ Richard Leiby, Washington Post
2005 http://tinyurl.com/djfch
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/07/06/DI...
American Satan, L Ron Hubbard "Narration by the beast himself . The
founder of the Cult of
Scientology L Ron Hubbard" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yQb64WpoU8
STOP-WISE.BIZ >> Help for Scientology WISE victims
http://stop-wise.biz/index.html#WISE
Ulf Brettstam 'psychiatric evaluation of El Ron H'
A psychiatric view with comments on the Admissions by Lafayette
Ronald
Hubbard From: Orkeltatte aka Ulf Brettstam
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-admissions-psychiatric-eval.html
Subliminal Shock Therapy? Examination of the Scientology E-Meter
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/shock.htm
Dianetics Reviews from 1950 - or Dianetics may kill ( Corrected )
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/dianetics-might-kill.htm
The E-Meter Papers.
http://www.lermanet.com/e-metershort.htm
A Critic looks at the Church of Scientology
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/cos/index.htm
Declaration of Don Larson ( Fmr Int Finance Exec,now-wog) 1988
http://lisatrust.bogie.nl/legal/declaration-larson092888.htm
Scientology in the UK Media
http://cosmedia.freewinds.cx/media/uk2007.html
Martin Poulter Scientology Criticism (UK)
http://cosmedia.freewinds.cx/
Dan Garvin's Story
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/DanGarvin.htm
Scientology & Dianetics - Tax-exempt Child Abuse and Neglect ?
http://www.taxexemptchildabuse.net/
Making Law, Making Enemies' about Helena Kobrin & Scientology
The American Lawyer March 1996
www.skeptictank.org/makelaw.htm
Knut Vigeland, Norwegian lawyer, responds to Helena Kobrin
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/UK/HELENA/HO_KNUTT.HTM
The Infography about Opposing Views of Scientology
http://www.infography.com/content/485197600203.html
Edith Ervin's Story on Scientology
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/cos/editherv.htm
Why Kathy Won't Come Home
http://www.scientology-lies.com/press/independent/1995-03-31/why-kath...
What Christians Need to Know about Scientology - by Margery
Wakefield (1991)
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/wakefield/christians.html
Scientology's Human Rights Abuses and Victims Stories
http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/dianetics_abuse.html
The Great Universe Corps Rip Off!! posted on OCMB by mr_bad
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=15904
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Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
There is no actual evidence that Rinder has blown and as far as I know it is only rumor.

The fact that his page has been left up is another indicator. Generally when a person blows, especially a high ranking person, all references to that person are deleted in a "1984" fashion.

I am wondering if he is simply lying low for now.

Mike
IFA

Well, maybe anonymous can find out whether Mikey "Crikey" Rinder has actually blown.

That would be part of locating him, hmmm?
 
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